[opensuse] sysstat/system activity monitor after recent factory update
I recently did a factory update on my 11.1 based x86 system. Since doing so one problem I've been having has been the sysstat package. It's supposed to collect system activity data, but I now get error messages every 6 errors saying, basically, that no data was collected. I tried strac'ing through the frequent collector, and it seems to be writing data to the file, but the file sizes do not grow. It seems to successfully open the files for write, but all the 'collected' files onnly have about 300 bytes in them vs. some much larger amount measured in KB. Maybe it's not seeking or the append mode isn't working for it? Anyone else using this package and tried a recent update of 11.1? Ideas? I 'groan' about the idea of trying to pull the source and try to find out what broke... Ug! std-disclaimer about: factory update should break things like this...blahblahblah... :-) thanks... -linda
On Thursday 24 September 2009 22:07:30 Linda Walsh wrote:
I recently did a factory update on my 11.1 based x86 system.
So you now have an 11.2 beta system
Since doing so one problem I've been having has been the sysstat package.
Was it updated, or is it still an 11.1 package?
Anyone else using this package and tried a recent update of 11.1?
Comments like this make me wonder if you realise what "factory" is. It isn't 11.1 I just checked my 11.2 test system, and I'm not seeing any error messages from sysstat, and /var/log/sa has "normal" sa files in it.
Ug! std-disclaimer about: factory update should break things like this...blahblahblah... :-)
While factory has a policy of always being in working order, its nature as the bleeding edge development repository means that it won't always be so. It would also be interesting to know how you did the update from 11.1 to 11.2, and how many of your packages still are on 11.1 level Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 24 September 2009 22:07:30 Linda Walsh wrote:
I recently did a factory update on my 11.1 based x86 system.
So you now have an 11.2 beta system
????say what?!?? NO wonder I'm having all sorts of problems!
Since doing so one problem I've been having has been the sysstat package.
Was it updated, or is it still an 11.1 package?
--- heck if I know...I'll have to check
Anyone else using this package and tried a recent update of 11.1?
Comments like this make me wonder if you realise what "factory" is. It isn't 11.1
------ I thought it was the latest updates for 11.1.
I just checked my 11.2 test system, and I'm not seeing any error messages from sysstat, and /var/log/sa has "normal" sa files in it.
Ug! std-disclaimer about: factory update should break things like this...blahblahblah... :-)
While factory has a policy of always being in working order, its nature as the bleeding edge development repository means that it won't always be so.
It would also be interesting to know how you did the update from 11.1 to 11.2, and how many of your packages still are on 11.1 level
---- I have no clue...I just went into yast and thought I was updating my 11.1 packages to the latest patch level. Apparently I was wrong. I never would have upgraded this server to a BETA.. It's a critical server. Is there a 'roll-back function like on windows? I.e can I tell it to reinstall the latest updated versions of the 11.1 packages? FACTORY isn't a clear name at all. BETA is much more clear...FACTORY in common parlance implies "stock" (undecorated). It certainly doesn't imply "preview" items, or items that haven't been released to the general public. Example -- often items/goods (and even software) has an option to return your device or product to 'factory' settings -- that's not necessarily default -- but that's as it was shipped from the factory. If an item goes through post-factory processing before it gets to you, then 'defaults' may be different from factory, though that is rare. But Factory never implies pre-released products (except maybe in the openSUSE world). But I didn't think that carried over into yast... Do you have any suggesions on how I reinstall the latest 11.1 packages. I have backups, but it would be hard to do whole disk restores without losing other work I've done in the interim. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 25 September 2009 02:33:10 pm Linda Walsh wrote:
So you now have an 11.2 beta system
????say what?!?? NO wonder I'm having all sorts of problems!
if you didn't run "zypper dup" in a root terminal, you should still have your 11.1 system, albeit with a bunch of factory (beta) repositories added in.
I thought it was the latest updates for 11.1.
it isn't. in openSUSE, "factory" stands for beta release, and there are warnings all over the place not to use it for production systems. (i am using factory releases of openSUSE and KDE for my work all the time, but am aware that things may go wrong and keep backups of important data on a different machine, just in case.)
It would also be interesting to know how you did the update from 11.1 to 11.2, and how many of your packages still are on 11.1 level
I have no clue...I just went into yast and thought I was updating my 11.1 packages to the latest patch level.
you find the appropriate repositories here: http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories
It's a critical server. Is there a 'roll-back function like on windows?
I.e can I tell it to reinstall the latest updated versions of the 11.1 packages?
you'll have to go through your repository list using yast or zypper, remove all repos that have "factory" or "11.2" in their URL, replacing them with the 11.1 versions. then run "zypper dup" from a root terminal, and everything should be restored to it's proper 11.1 state. (i'd recommend reading thru the man page for zypper (man:/zypper in konqueror makes that easier than "man zypper" in a terminal) so you know what you're doing.) should there be dependency issues that zypper can't resolve, you'll have to sort them our using yast--and make sure you got all necessary repos in their 11.1 versions added, enabled, and refreshed.
FACTORY isn't a clear name at all.
BETA is much more clear...FACTORY in common parlance implies "stock" (undecorated).It certainly doesn't imply "preview" items, or items that haven't been released to the general public.
Example -- often items/goods (and even software) has an option to return your device or product to 'factory' settings -- that's not necessarily default -- but that's as it was shipped from the factory. If an item goes through post-factory processing before it gets to you, then 'defaults' may be different from factory, though that is rare. But Factory never implies pre-released products (except maybe in the openSUSE world). But I didn't think that carried over into yast...
i can follow your logic, but it's been this way in openSUSE for a long time, 'factory' meaning 'beta.' had you read through some of the web pages dealing with installation and updates under http://www.opensuse.org, you would have been aware of this.
Do you have any suggesions on how I reinstall the latest 11.1 packages. I have backups, but it would be hard to do whole disk restores without losing other work I've done in the interim.
see above. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 25 September 2009 07:00:00 phanisvara das wrote:
On Friday 25 September 2009 02:33:10 pm Linda Walsh wrote:
So you now have an 11.2 beta system
????say what?!?? I thought it was the latest updates for 11.1.
it isn't. in openSUSE, "factory" stands for beta release, and there are warnings all over the place not to use it for production systems.
The "Factory" repository is where openSUSE is built. While they try and keep it in order, it tends to be more messy than the final released product. Occasionally, there are even "industrial accidents" which could result in loss of time or data. The latest updates for 11.1 are in the "11.1 Updates" repository. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 24 September 2009 22:07:30 Linda Walsh wrote:
I recently did a factory update on my 11.1 based x86 system.
I was in yast at the time. Apparently whatever I did, did NOT install any 11.2 packages, none are showing up in rpm: # rpm -qai|grep "^Distribution"|sort|uniq -c|more 17 Distribution: Dell OpenManage Systems Management Software 1920 Distribution: openSUSE 11.1 1 Distribution: openSUSE 11.1 (i586) So when I upgraded, I must have only done a 'regular' upgrade. Sorry to be misleading. I'll have to check my test system..... So I still don't know why my systat isn't collecting info. (wooh, that was a load off my mind, I thought I'd majorly messed up primary server -- it's the one I try to keep stable)..Ug. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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