[opensuse] Curious issue with Seamonkey
I have both Seamonkey and Thunderbird for email on Leap 15.2. One difference I've noticed is when the sender includes a graphic in the subject. On Thunderbird, the picture appears entirely within the subject line, which is annoying enough, but in Seamonkey it's spread over several lines. Has anyone else noticed this? Any ideas on how to fix this, other than shooting the idiots who send this crap? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/07/2020 15.58, James Knott wrote:
I have both Seamonkey and Thunderbird for email on Leap 15.2. One difference I've noticed is when the sender includes a graphic in the subject. On Thunderbird, the picture appears entirely within the subject line, which is annoying enough, but in Seamonkey it's spread over several lines.
Has anyone else noticed this? Any ideas on how to fix this, other than shooting the idiots who send this crap?
I suppose you mean an UTF character that happens to be a graphic. :-? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2020-07-10 01:17 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Has anyone else noticed this? Any ideas on how to fix this, other than shooting the idiots who send this crap?
I suppose you mean an UTF character that happens to be a graphic. :-?
I have no idea how it's done, only that it's annoying. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/07/2020 19.31, James Knott wrote:
On 2020-07-10 01:17 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Has anyone else noticed this? Any ideas on how to fix this, other than shooting the idiots who send this crap?
I suppose you mean an UTF character that happens to be a graphic. :-?
I have no idea how it's done, only that it's annoying.
See above [🌊] Is that it? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 10/07/2020 19.39, James Knott wrote:
On 2020-07-10 01:35 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Is that it?
Yeah, that sort of thing.
Ok, I fired up Seamonkey and created a mail account on it (localhost), then forwarded this email to it. Insane big picture. Even in the message body. Yes, that's a BUG. (SeaMonkey version 2.49.4, on Leap 15.1) (it is not a "graphic", you can see it even in text tools like Alpine) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
2.49.4 is ancient, July 2018. Since have been: 2.49.5 September 2019 2.53.1 Feb 28 2.53.2 May 3 2.53.3 July 7 Maybe a newer release solves the issue? I've never seen those irritants require more space than fits the normal space provided. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-07-10 04:59 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
2.49.5 September 2019 2.53.1 Feb 28 2.53.2 May 3 2.53.3 July 7
Maybe a newer release solves the issue? I've never seen those irritants require more space than fits the normal space provided.
What's the latest provided through openSUSE? I just updated this system last week. Yast Software Management shows I'm on the latest. If this was Windows, I could check for updates, but that option is not available, as openSUSE does that automagically. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/10/2020 08:58 AM, James Knott wrote:
Has anyone else noticed this? Any ideas on how to fix this, other than shooting the idiots who send this crap?
You are teaching me about new tricks I've never seen before. Graphics in the subject line? I don't know which setting may be killing it on Tbird here. The only key that looks relevant may be: mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed_tags.migrated 0 A quick search show that spammers like constantcontact are promoting "Strategically using emoji in you subject line..." So I guess we are talking about the stupid little emoji graphics? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/07/2020 00.34, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/10/2020 08:58 AM, James Knott wrote:
Has anyone else noticed this? Any ideas on how to fix this, other than shooting the idiots who send this crap?
You are teaching me about new tricks I've never seen before. Graphics in the subject line?
I don't know which setting may be killing it on Tbird here. The only key that looks relevant may be:
mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed_tags.migrated 0
A quick search show that spammers like constantcontact are promoting "Strategically using emoji in you subject line..."
So I guess we are talking about the stupid little emoji graphics?
No. Look up this thread and you will see how I do it in my posts. It is plain standard UTF-8 chars that happens to be a graphic instead of a letter. But it is a char. They even display in the terminal. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 07/11/2020 05:46 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 11/07/2020 00.34, David C. Rankin wrote:
So I guess we are talking about the stupid little emoji graphics?
No. Look up this thread and you will see how I do it in my posts.
It is plain standard UTF-8 chars that happens to be a graphic instead of a letter. But it is a char. They even display in the terminal.
Were did you find that? That is a 4-byte/32-bit character: f0 9f 8c 8a Thank goodness it doesn't even display on my box (except in your e-mail, looks like a little feather on a box of something...) That's beyond the normal C handling of UTF-8, but would require wchar_t to process. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 07/12/2020 12:41 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Were did you find that? That is a 4-byte/32-bit character:
f0 9f 8c 8a
Thank goodness it doesn't even display on my box (except in your e-mail, looks like a little feather on a box of something...)
That's beyond the normal C handling of UTF-8, but would require wchar_t to process.
Okay, Found it: Water Wave https://graphemica.com/%F0%9F%8C%8A -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 12/07/2020 07.57, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/12/2020 12:41 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Were did you find that? That is a 4-byte/32-bit character:
I copypasted from a commercial email :-D "🌊 PCDAYS 2020 👉 ¡SÚPER PCDAYS! 🧡" --> A computer store.
f0 9f 8c 8a
Thank goodness it doesn't even display on my box (except in your e-mail, looks like a little feather on a box of something...)
That's beyond the normal C handling of UTF-8, but would require wchar_t to process.
Thunderbird handles it just fine. Even Alpine handles it, with some quirks if I remember. Of course, in the Subject header it goes differently: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[opensuse]_Curious_issue_with_Seamonkey_[=f0=9f=8c=8a?= =?UTF-8?Q?]?= Email systems can not handle UTF-8 directly.
Okay,
Found it: Water Wave
Yes. Of course I don't use them in email, I just inserted one in order to test the issue James noticed in Seamonkey. Those chars do exist, so so they can be used and software mush handle them. I wonder about the printer! [...] It went just fine, printing from Thunderbird. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 07/12/2020 12:47 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yes.
Of course I don't use them in email, I just inserted one in order to test the issue James noticed in Seamonkey. Those chars do exist, so so they can be used and software mush handle them.
I wonder about the printer! [...] It went just fine, printing from Thunderbird.
Chuckline.... Reams of postscript page spew..... :p Frantic... server.tld:631/ cancel job.... cancel job.... cancel job.... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 13/07/2020 02.33, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/12/2020 12:47 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yes.
Of course I don't use them in email, I just inserted one in order to test the issue James noticed in Seamonkey. Those chars do exist, so so they can be used and software mush handle them.
I wonder about the printer! [...] It went just fine, printing from Thunderbird.
Chuckline.... Reams of postscript page spew..... :p
Frantic... server.tld:631/ cancel job.... cancel job.... cancel job....
Power switch works wonders :-D Nah, really, it went perfect. Printed the email correctly with that coloured char et al. I don't know if it is sending a graphic for the full page, or what. Insert the graphic in the middle of a text with a custom defined font. Maybe print to ps to find out, but I can't read ps code. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2020-07-11 11:41 p.m., David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/11/2020 05:46 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 11/07/2020 00.34, David C. Rankin wrote:
So I guess we are talking about the stupid little emoji graphics?
No. Look up this thread and you will see how I do it in my posts.
It is plain standard UTF-8 chars that happens to be a graphic instead of a letter. But it is a char. They even display in the terminal.
Were did you find that? That is a 4-byte/32-bit character:
f0 9f 8c 8a
Thank goodness it doesn't even display on my box (except in your e-mail, looks like a little feather on a box of something...)
That's beyond the normal C handling of UTF-8, but would require wchar_t to process.
The character Carlos put in that subject line is UTF-8 char U+1F30A I assume you know how to enter UTF-8 characters in Linux. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/12/2020 01:58 AM, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2020-07-11 11:41 p.m., David C. Rankin wrote:
Were did you find that? That is a 4-byte/32-bit character:
f0 9f 8c 8a
Thank goodness it doesn't even display on my box (except in your e-mail, looks like a little feather on a box of something...)
That's beyond the normal C handling of UTF-8, but would require wchar_t to process.
The character Carlos put in that subject line is UTF-8 char U+1F30A I assume you know how to enter UTF-8 characters in Linux.
Yes, of course, but what was a bit strange in looking at the code-point is that it is derived from the characters UTF-32 encoding: UTF-32/UTF-32BE (hex) 0x0001F30A (0001f30a) Those I don't play with at all. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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