[opensuse] An early Xmas present
I know disks keep getting bigger every time you don't look, but this is ridiculous: # smartctl -T permissive -a /dev/sdd smartctl 6.0 2012-10-10 r3643 [x86_64-linux-3.7.10-1.32-default] (SUSE RPM) Copyright (C) 2002-12, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org Vendor: /1:0:1:0 Product: User Capacity: 600,332,565,813,390,450 bytes [600 PB] Logical block size: 774843950 bytes In fact, this is a Seagate 8TB drive, but it's obviously not doing too well. :-) -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.1°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
User Capacity: 600,332,565,813,390,450 bytes [600 PB] Logical block size: 774843950 bytes
Impressive block size. Must be some innovative compression in play.
In fact, this is a Seagate 8TB drive, but it's obviously not doing too well. :-)
Time to take a backup of the Internet ? /kaare -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-12-17 07:16, Per Jessen wrote:
smartctl 6.0 2012-10-10 r3643 [x86_64-linux-3.7.10-1.32-default] (SUSE RPM)
That sounds aged; mine - on oS:TW - says: smartctl 7.0 2019-05-21 r4917 [x86_64-linux-5.3.12-1-default] (SUSE RPM) I'm not saying that this version would show the sizes correctly, but it's worth a try. ;-) Have a nice day, Berny -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Bernhard Voelker wrote:
On 2019-12-17 07:16, Per Jessen wrote:
smartctl 6.0 2012-10-10 r3643 [x86_64-linux-3.7.10-1.32-default] (SUSE RPM)
That sounds aged; mine - on oS:TW - says:
smartctl 7.0 2019-05-21 r4917 [x86_64-linux-5.3.12-1-default] (SUSE RPM)
I'm not saying that this version would show the sizes correctly, but it's worth a try. ;-)
Haha, you're right, it's an old MythTV system still running 12.2. The disk is actually fine, after a reboot. It might have been a cable problem, the whole box was moved yesterday. Still, a 600PB drive ..... -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.7°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 17/12/2019 à 09:31, Per Jessen a écrit :
Still, a 600PB drive .....
christmas 2030? may be before (and we will find it too small, I'm sure :-)) jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 17/12/2019 03:31, Per Jessen wrote:
Still, a 600PB drive .....
An elephant's memory.. Nevertheless, it is the block size that is really impressive. Try setting up Bcache... -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-12-17 03:31 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Still, a 600PB drive .....
My first hard drive was a whopping 30 MB! ;-) I also recall a friend boasting he had a whole GB spread over 4 drives, a few years later. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2019-12-17 at 09:08 -0500, James Knott wrote:
On 2019-12-17 03:31 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Still, a 600PB drive .....
My first hard drive was a whopping 30 MB! ;-)
Mine was 32. On a card, the computer itself apparently did not support HDs. Huge thing. With a step motor. On cold weather that computer does not boot. I have to wait some minutes till the HD warms up and the tracks align with the steps!
I also recall a friend boasting he had a whole GB spread over 4 drives, a few years later.
:-o - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXfjk1hwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVxh0AnAtmy9rvQPelG3yX8CpM 0iZlGktQAJoDvIfgtFbWD5xd3D7upNC/WxcPwQ== =Bnu7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-12-17 09:23 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Mine was 32. On a card, the computer itself apparently did not support HDs. Huge thing.
Back in those days, computers generally needed a separate controller card. Originally, they were MFM. Mine was RLL. They also had 2 cables between controller and drive. One was for data and the other control & status. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott composed on 2019-12-17 09:08 (UTC-0500):
Per Jessen wrote:
Still, a 600PB drive .....
My first hard drive was a whopping 30 MB! ;-)
I also recall a friend boasting he had a whole GB spread over 4 drives, a few years later.
My boss at the time bought us a brand new first generation 6 MHz IBM PC AT, complete with PC DOS 3.0, 512k RAM, 5.25" 1.2M floppy drive, 20 MB CMI MFM HD, 84 key keyboard, 12" green CRT, HP LaserJet I for printing tax returns and financial statements, Genicom dot matrix printer for other printing, and AMI accounting software, all for around $10k or $12k IIRC. For backup we added a 10MB Bernoulli box system. We got about 5 years out of that CMI before I replaced it with a Seagate 80 MB ST4096 MFM. I still have the dual platters from the CMI. About a year after acquiring the PC AT we expanded with a Corona luggable, complete with 256k RAM, no RTC, and 10MB HD. I had to fill a card with individual RAM chips to bring it up to 512k for keeping Lotus 1-2-3 from running short. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/17/2019 12:16 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
I know disks keep getting bigger every time you don't look, but this is ridiculous:
# smartctl -T permissive -a /dev/sdd smartctl 6.0 2012-10-10 r3643 [x86_64-linux-3.7.10-1.32-default] (SUSE RPM) Copyright (C) 2002-12, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
Vendor: /1:0:1:0 Product: User Capacity: 600,332,565,813,390,450 bytes [600 PB] Logical block size: 774843950 bytes
In fact, this is a Seagate 8TB drive, but it's obviously not doing too well. :-)
Did `smartctl -a /dev/sdd` ever show the correct size? Could be the drive is just not in the smartctl database yet and it is interpreting the 8TB size incorrectly (obviously incorrectly) I usually run a short-test on each drive after I install it and redirect the output to a file to save. (keeps a record of what was shown initially) Along with the fdisk (or sfdisk) and mdadm information. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
On 12/17/2019 12:16 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
I know disks keep getting bigger every time you don't look, but this is ridiculous:
# smartctl -T permissive -a /dev/sdd smartctl 6.0 2012-10-10 r3643 [x86_64-linux-3.7.10-1.32-default] (SUSE RPM) Copyright (C) 2002-12, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
Vendor: /1:0:1:0 Product: User Capacity: 600,332,565,813,390,450 bytes [600 PB] Logical block size: 774843950 bytes
In fact, this is a Seagate 8TB drive, but it's obviously not doing too well. :-)
Did `smartctl -a /dev/sdd` ever show the correct size? Could be the drive is just not in the smartctl database yet and it is interpreting the 8TB size incorrectly (obviously incorrectly)
It turns out the drive is fine, I suspect a cable got shifted when I moved the whole box yesterday. I run short tests on every drive every day, long tests once a month. Doesn't always help much - the reason I'm even looking at this box is because a drive failed. At 1700, it reported it was having a problem (can't remember exactly what it said) and by 2000, it had died. No prior warnings or indicators of bad health. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.4°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 17/12/2019 10.04, Per Jessen wrote:
It turns out the drive is fine, I suspect a cable got shifted when I moved the whole box yesterday. I run short tests on every drive every day, long tests once a month. Doesn't always help much - the reason I'm even looking at this box is because a drive failed. At 1700, it reported it was having a problem (can't remember exactly what it said) and by 2000, it had died. No prior warnings or indicators of bad health.
That fast :-( I do the long test once a week, though. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXfjfFQAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1VKEAKCPr+VEGkOxGbhnte5rz+3r5XK79ACfZH/obVSqoTXb8wTiVsyFJftCOfo= =Zkfq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Anton Aylward
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Bernhard Voelker
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Carlos E. R.
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David C. Rankin
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Felix Miata
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James Knott
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jdd@dodin.org
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Kaare Rasmussen
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Per Jessen