Missing external programs for K3B
Just having installed SuSE Linux 8.1 I am looking forward to try out K3B for writing DVDs with my HP DVDRW200i. From what I´ve heard I understand that this should be possible. Now, when trying to configure K3B it seems that some of the external programs, that should be installed to have K3B work, are missing. They are: tccat tcdecode tcextract tcprobe tcscan transcode I am unable to find them on the installation DVD. Is something wrong? Have SuSE forgotten something? Best regards, David List
On Saturday 14 December 2002 4:04 pm, David List wrote:
for writing DVDs with my HP DVDRW200i. From what I´ve heard I understand that this should be possible. Now, when trying to configure K3B it seems that some of the external programs, that should be installed to have K3B work, are missing. They are: tccat tcdecode tcextract tcprobe tcscan transcode I am unable to find them on the installation DVD. Is something wrong? Have SuSE forgotten something?
Best regards, David List
David, go to http://k3b.sourceforge.net/ and download the latest K3b plus the latest cdrtools, cdparanoia, and cdrdao. Just look around that site under requirements and you will find links to all you need. Dont fool with the k3b that comes with SuSE8.1, it's broken. The folks who put out K3b will get you burning cds pretty quickly. Install the cdrtools etc, before you install K3b and you should have no trouble. Richard
On Saturday 14 December 2002 05:04 pm, David List wrote:
Just having installed SuSE Linux 8.1 I am looking forward to try out K3B for writing DVDs with my HP DVDRW200i. From what I´ve heard I understand that this should be possible. Now, when trying to configure K3B it seems that some of the external programs, that should be installed to have K3B work, are missing. They are: tccat tcdecode tcextract tcprobe tcscan transcode I am unable to find them on the installation DVD. Is something wrong? Have SuSE forgotten something?
Best regards, David List
---------------------------- David, Those programs will have to be downloaded and compiled. I think I got the transcode files from Freshmeat. Just do a fm:transcode in your Konqueror browser to find them. If you can't find them, I have already compiled and built a rpm file for SuSE 8.1, just email me privately. Your SuSE 8.1 installation of K3b will allow you to burn dvd's as well as cdrs, but if you are wanting to copy a dvd or rip one to encode it to video, then you will need the version from the k3b site as the SuSE 8.1 version is not allowed to provide that and is broken in that respect only, as Richard pointed out. But that is the only way it is "broken", for just burning and copying cds, etc., K3b will work quite nicely for you as is from SuSE. I also have the new "unbroken" K3b compiled and in a rpm file, if you don't want to bother doing your own compile. If you plan to convert your dvd to divx, then you will need the tar file so that you can compile it to do that. You will also need divx4linux files. Just do a search on Google or just type fm:k3b or fm:divx4linux in your Konqueror url box to get Freshmeat's listings. I too have this already in a ready to run form. So, bottom line, if you want to use K3b from the SuSE 8.1 dvd, then have at it, it works great! You don't need the transcode stuff for that. If, though, you want to do more, then you will need the newest version and compile it yourself. The other programs Richard mentioned are good from your 8.1 dvd and if you do an online update from SuSE, those will be updated as well. Patrick --- KMail v1.4.3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206
On Saturday 14 December 2002 4:04 pm, PL O'Smith wrote:
On Saturday 14 December 2002 05:04 pm, David List wrote:
Just having installed SuSE Linux 8.1 I am looking forward to try out K3B for writing DVDs [...snipped list of 'missing' programs]
Those programs will have to be downloaded and compiled. [...] Your SuSE 8.1 installation of K3b will allow you to burn dvd's as well as cdrs, but if you are wanting to copy a dvd or rip one to encode [...] If you plan to convert your dvd to divx, then you will need the tar file so that you can compile it to do that. You will also need divx4linux files. [...]
This may be related (if it should be a new/different thread, please redirect) I have some video that I've edited under windows [plain old "mini-dv" stuff -- my nephew's 'christmas pagaent', a couple of transitions and filters is all] The resulting "video" is 9-10gb in size and runs exactly 45 minutes. [it's actually 3 seperate files due to window filesize limitations] I'd like to "encode" it to something that would fit on a (v)cd -- is this something that k3b can do? is this the "purpose" of programs like transcode and divx4linux? (and most importantly) is it reasonable to expect to compress 45 minutes of relatively trivial video onto a single CD? (would I have to cut the framesize & rate down to 320x240x15?) I tried compressing it to a single high-speed "windows media" format stream -- the estimate was 10 hours to complete, so I let it run overnight. In the morning it still had 3 hours to go, but when I came back home at lunchtime "windows had crashed" without saving a single byte to the "output" file... :( [needless to say I'm reluctant to waste another night trying...]
On Tuesday 17 December 2002 05:13 pm, Tom Emerson wrote:
On Saturday 14 December 2002 4:04 pm, PL O'Smith wrote:
On Saturday 14 December 2002 05:04 pm, David List wrote:
Just having installed SuSE Linux 8.1 I am looking forward to try out K3B for writing DVDs [...snipped list of 'missing' programs]
---------------------------- Those programs will have to be downloaded and compiled. [...] Your SuSE 8.1 installation of K3b will allow you to burn dvd's as well as cdrs, but if you are wanting to copy a dvd or rip one to encode
[...]
If you plan to convert your dvd to divx, then you will need the tar file so that you can compile it to do that. You will also need divx4linux files. [...]
This may be related (if it should be a new/different thread, please redirect) I have some video that I've edited under windows [plain old "mini-dv" stuff -- my nephew's 'christmas pagaent', a couple of transitions and filters is all] The resulting "video" is 9-10gb in size and runs exactly 45 minutes. [it's actually 3 seperate files due to window filesize limitations] I'd like to "encode" it to something that would fit on a (v)cd -- is this something that k3b can do? is this the "purpose" of programs like transcode and divx4linux? (and most importantly) is it reasonable to expect to compress 45 minutes of relatively trivial video onto a single CD? (would I have to cut the framesize & rate down to 320x240x15?)
I tried compressing it to a single high-speed "windows media" format stream -- the estimate was 10 hours to complete, so I let it run overnight. In the morning it still had 3 hours to go, but when I came back home at lunchtime "windows had crashed" without saving a single byte to the "output" file... :(
[needless to say I'm reluctant to waste another night trying...]
-------------------------------------- Tom, Don't know if I can answer everything you have a question about, but will tell you of my experience with k3b. I used k3b to rip a DVD movie to disk and then encode it as DivX (avi). In order to make a VCD, I believe it would have to be in mpeg format and I believe there are programs to do that. The resulting movie DVD took about 3.5 hours to complete with a resulting 1.3gb file. Plays beautifully with xine. There is another program that allows you to break the movie in two parts to write to a couple of cdr's. Of course, these cdr's are only playable on the computer, not your standard home DVD player. Someone here may be able to help with the programs to convert the movie to mpeg (VCD) format. If your movie is already in mpeg format, yours is somewhat larger than I would expect though, since a dvd movie is usually 1.5-2 hours in length and k3b manages to encode that to only 1.3gb! I should think what you want to do in Linux is possible, but not sure if k3b is the program you need to do that job. My video experience in Linux is small right now. Most of my video use has been with the Amiga & the Toaster, which is of no help for your project. ;o) Patrick --- KMail v1.4.3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206
On Tuesday 17 December 2002 3:34 pm, PL O'Smith wrote:
On Tuesday 17 December 2002 05:13 pm, Tom Emerson wrote: [...]
I have some video that I've edited under windows [plain old "mini-dv" stuff [...]
In order to make a VCD, I believe it would have to be in mpeg format and I believe there are programs to do that.
Someone here may be able to help with the programs to convert the movie to mpeg (VCD) format. If your movie is already in mpeg format, yours is somewhat larger than I would expect
it is "raw" AVI [well, not entirely raw -- mini-dv does do SOME compression, but for all intents and purposes here, this might as well be raw full-frame video...] basically a straight firewire capture and minimal editing [cut out the parts when "people were milling about the stage..."] my thoughts on this project are as follows: 1) compress it to a standard "vcd" so it will play on a video disk player [though to be honest, I don't think anyone I'll be giving it to has such; unless typical DVD players can also play home-made VCD's...] 2) if the above won't fit, compress more-than-usual for a VCD as some form of "streaming media" [wmf; realplayer] -- everyone I plan on giving this to has a [windows] computer, so they can play it on the computer 3) and if that won't fit, compress it as far as possible and/or create muiltiple CD's -- people can copy the file(s) to a hard drive to view/play it
Tom Emerson
... The resulting "video" is 9-10gb in size and runs exactly 45 minutes. [it's actually 3 seperate files due to window filesize limitations] I'd like to "encode" it to something that would fit on a (v)cd -- is this something that k3b can do?
I don't know about k3b. The following two commands create a VCD: # vcdimager --iso-volume-label="MY_TEST_VCD" track1.mpg track2.mpg # cdrdao write --device 1,1,0 --speed 8 videocd.cue They are in packages vcdimager*.rpm and cdrdao*.rpm in SuSE 8.1. mencoder (MPlayer*.rpm) can convert AVI into MPEG. I collected this information for my colleague at work who wants to create SVCDs but I haven't had time to try it yet. There may be other alternatives I'm not aware of. Due to the large number of video codecs, file size limitations, and software bugs the VCD creation process is often not quite straightforward. I suggest you read some info on appropriate home pages (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/, http://www.vcdimager.org/) first. -- Alexandr.Malusek@imv.liu.se
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