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16 Jan 2000

      I put a quote from the Reisersf homepage below.   I have two
comments.
1)  I love his metaphor comparing closed economies like
corporations to a large communal group and open economies to
the Linux development model.  This is an especially poignant
comment since it comes from people who have experienced the
stiffling brutality of communism.

2)  With the Terra byte disk not far away, why limit the
system to 4.29 billion objects?  Were there that many empty
files it would still take 156GB+ just to store the names,
and with an average of 1KB per file about 4.4TB.   I believe
that we will be seeing 50 - 250GB disk systems this year and
possible 100-1000+ TB systems within five years unsing
quantum technology.  Consider that there are 6.8 billion
people on the planet right now.  That's almost twice as many
objects as the current Reisersf allows.
JLK

Hans Reiser stated:
"I believe it is not so much the cost that has made Linux so
successful as it is the openness.  Linux is a decentralized
economy with honor and recognition as the currency of
payment (and thus there is much honor in it).  Commercial OS
vendors are, at the moment, all closed economies, and doomed
to fall in their competition with open economies just as
communism eventually fell.  At some point an OS vendor will
realize that if it: 
- opens up its source code to decentralized modification, 
- systematically rewards those who perform the modifications
that are proven useful, 
- systematically merges/integrates those modifications into
its branded primary release branch while adding value as the
integrator,
- that it will acquire both the critical mass of the
internet development community, and the aggressive edge that
no large communal group (such as a corporation) can have. 
Rather than saying to any such vendor that they should do
this now, let me simply point out that whoever is first will
have an enormous advantage..... 

Since I have more recognition than money to pass around as
reward, my policy is to tend to require that those who
contribute substantial software to this project have their
names attached to a user visible portion of the project. 
This official policy helps me deal with folks like Vladimir,
who was much too modest to ever name the file system checker
vsck without my insisting.  Smaller contributions are to be
noted in the source code, and the acknowledgements section
of this paper. 

If you choose to contribute to this file system, and your
work is accepted into the primary release, you should let me
know if you want me to look for opportunities to integrate
you into contracts from commercial vendors.  Through
packaging ourselves as a group, we are more marketable to
such OS vendors.  Many of us have spent too much time
working at day jobs unrelated to our Linux work.  This is
too hard, and I hope to make things easier for us all.  If
you like this business model of selling GPL'd component
software with related support services, but you write
software not related to this file system, I encourage you to
form a component supplier company also.  Opportunities may
arise for us to cooperate in our marketing, and I will be
happy to do so."

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[SLE] Comments about the Reisersf system.

JerryKreps＠alltel.net

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