[opensuse] ssh + thunderbird /firefox behavior
Hi, i use thunderbird sometimes over ssh. as i understand ssh normally should run and use all (files) (not hardware) resources from server. why did thunderbird do it in this way: if i have an thunderbird open local and ssh thunderbird to a server, it will not open a second thunderbird, it will pop up the already local thunderbird. if i have no local thunderbird open, and i ssh thunderbird, the thunderbird from server will opend and i have all contacts+on-server-stored mails available. BUT when i then like to compose a mail and i have on server my privat pgp (enigmail) key, i am NOT able to send a mail, because thunderbird seems to use keys they are stored local. i do not understand, thunderbird seems to mix local and server files. simmilar is with firefox if you look into the bookmarks. first question is why? and second how could i "really" use the ssh-thunderbird and not only parts of it when i use ssh? thanks, simoN -- www.becherer.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 7/25/19 4:44 PM, Simon Becherer wrote:
Hi,
i use thunderbird sometimes over ssh. as i understand ssh normally should run and use all (files) (not hardware) resources from server.
why did thunderbird do it in this way:
if i have an thunderbird open local and ssh thunderbird to a server, it will not open a second thunderbird, it will pop up the already local thunderbird.
You can fix this by calling thunderbird / firefox with the --new-instance paramater, which will force another independent copy to open
if i have no local thunderbird open, and i ssh thunderbird, the thunderbird from server will opend and i have all contacts+on-server-stored mails available. BUT when i then like to compose a mail and i have on server my privat pgp (enigmail) key, i am NOT able to send a mail, because thunderbird seems to use keys they are stored local.
i do not understand, thunderbird seems to mix local and server files. simmilar is with firefox if you look into the bookmarks.
firefox doesn't mix bookmarks with --new-instance atleast not here atm, if you are not using that you are probably connecting to the locally running instance, to make it easy to tell I normally set different themes for my remote versions of firefox
first question is why? and second how could i "really" use the ssh-thunderbird and not only parts of it when i use ssh?
I suspect --new-instance will fix this but I didn't try. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 25/07/2019 09.28, Simon Lees wrote:
On 7/25/19 4:44 PM, Simon Becherer wrote:
Hi,
i use thunderbird sometimes over ssh. as i understand ssh normally should run and use all (files) (not hardware) resources from server.
why did thunderbird do it in this way:
if i have an thunderbird open local and ssh thunderbird to a server, it will not open a second thunderbird, it will pop up the already local thunderbird.
You can fix this by calling thunderbird / firefox with the --new-instance paramater, which will force another independent copy to open
I use --no-remote. The name doesn't look intuitive to me, but it works. If I use "firefox -P Another_profile_name --no-remote" you can start another instance (local if you are in a terminal, not ssh) that uses a different profile. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:52:21 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 25/07/2019 09.28, Simon Lees wrote:
On 7/25/19 4:44 PM, Simon Becherer wrote:
Hi,
i use thunderbird sometimes over ssh. as i understand ssh normally should run and use all (files) (not hardware) resources from server.
why did thunderbird do it in this way:
if i have an thunderbird open local and ssh thunderbird to a server, it will not open a second thunderbird, it will pop up the already local thunderbird.
You can fix this by calling thunderbird / firefox with the --new-instance paramater, which will force another independent copy to open
I use --no-remote. The name doesn't look intuitive to me, but it works. If I use "firefox -P Another_profile_name --no-remote" you can start another instance (local if you are in a terminal, not ssh) that uses a different profile.
-no-remote implies -new-instance apparently. And incidentally FF syntax uses a single - although it does accept -- as well. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 25/07/2019 13.47, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:52:21 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
...
I use --no-remote. The name doesn't look intuitive to me, but it works. If I use "firefox -P Another_profile_name --no-remote" you can start another instance (local if you are in a terminal, not ssh) that uses a different profile.
-no-remote implies -new-instance apparently. And incidentally FF syntax uses a single - although it does accept -- as well.
The help describes double dash options:
firefox --help Usage: /usr/lib64/firefox/firefox [ options ... ] [URL] where options include:
X11 options --display=DISPLAY X display to use --sync Make X calls synchronous --g-fatal-warnings Make all warnings fatal Firefox options -h or --help Print this message. -v or --version Print Firefox version. -P <profile> Start with <profile>. --profile <path> Start with profile at <path>. --migration Start with migration wizard. --ProfileManager Start with ProfileManager. --no-remote Do not accept or send remote commands; implies --new-instance. --new-instance Open new instance, not a new window in running instance. ... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Thank you all, --no-remote is working with thunderbird. i have not recognized this option. simoN Am 25.07.19 um 17:59 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 25/07/2019 13.47, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:52:21 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
...
I use --no-remote. The name doesn't look intuitive to me, but it works. If I use "firefox -P Another_profile_name --no-remote" you can start another instance (local if you are in a terminal, not ssh) that uses a different profile.
-no-remote implies -new-instance apparently. And incidentally FF syntax uses a single - although it does accept -- as well.
The help describes double dash options:
firefox --help Usage: /usr/lib64/firefox/firefox [ options ... ] [URL] where options include:
X11 options --display=DISPLAY X display to use --sync Make X calls synchronous --g-fatal-warnings Make all warnings fatal
Firefox options -h or --help Print this message. -v or --version Print Firefox version. -P <profile> Start with <profile>. --profile <path> Start with profile at <path>. --migration Start with migration wizard. --ProfileManager Start with ProfileManager. --no-remote Do not accept or send remote commands; implies --new-instance. --new-instance Open new instance, not a new window in running instance. ...
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 17:59:29 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 25/07/2019 13.47, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:52:21 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
...
I use --no-remote. The name doesn't look intuitive to me, but it works. If I use "firefox -P Another_profile_name --no-remote" you can start another instance (local if you are in a terminal, not ssh) that uses a different profile.
-no-remote implies -new-instance apparently. And incidentally FF syntax uses a single - although it does accept -- as well.
The help describes double dash options:
firefox --help Usage: /usr/lib64/firefox/firefox [ options ... ] [URL] where options include:
X11 options --display=DISPLAY X display to use --sync Make X calls synchronous --g-fatal-warnings Make all warnings fatal
Firefox options -h or --help Print this message. -v or --version Print Firefox version. -P <profile> Start with <profile>. --profile <path> Start with profile at <path>. --migration Start with migration wizard. --ProfileManager Start with ProfileManager. --no-remote Do not accept or send remote commands; implies --new-instance. --new-instance Open new instance, not a new window in running instance. ...
Fascinating. The docs describe single hyphen :P https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Command_Line_Options As I said, it accepts both. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 25/07/2019 21.13, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 17:59:29 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 25/07/2019 13.47, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:52:21 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
...
I use --no-remote. The name doesn't look intuitive to me, but it works. If I use "firefox -P Another_profile_name --no-remote" you can start another instance (local if you are in a terminal, not ssh) that uses a different profile.
-no-remote implies -new-instance apparently. And incidentally FF syntax uses a single - although it does accept -- as well.
The help describes double dash options:
firefox --help Usage: /usr/lib64/firefox/firefox [ options ... ] [URL] where options include:
X11 options --display=DISPLAY X display to use --sync Make X calls synchronous --g-fatal-warnings Make all warnings fatal
Firefox options -h or --help Print this message. -v or --version Print Firefox version. -P <profile> Start with <profile>. --profile <path> Start with profile at <path>. --migration Start with migration wizard. --ProfileManager Start with ProfileManager. --no-remote Do not accept or send remote commands; implies --new-instance. --new-instance Open new instance, not a new window in running instance. ...
Fascinating. The docs describe single hyphen :P
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Command_Line_Options
As I said, it accepts both.
Fascinating indeed :-)
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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