[opensuse] making windows consistent
Some windows do not follow my window manager's conventions, with a traditional title bar and separate menu. They also don't respect my border widths. I think they are gnome applications, although there may be others. Is there any way to configure these applications to respect my choice of appearance and user interface style? Cheers, Dave Leap 42.1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/09/2016 09:10 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:
Some windows do not follow my window manager's conventions, with a traditional title bar and separate menu. They also don't respect my border widths. I think they are gnome applications, although there may be others.
Is there any way to configure these applications to respect my choice of appearance and user interface style?
Cheers, Dave
Leap 42.1
Make sure you use the KDE Settings / Configure Desktop / Application Style, Gnome App Style matches the theme you are using for the rest of KDE. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 11:57:14 -0800 John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/09/2016 09:10 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:
Some windows do not follow my window manager's conventions, with a traditional title bar and separate menu. They also don't respect my border widths. I think they are gnome applications, although there may be others.
Is there any way to configure these applications to respect my choice of appearance and user interface style?
Cheers, Dave
Leap 42.1
Make sure you use the KDE Settings / Configure Desktop / Application Style, Gnome App Style matches the theme you are using for the rest of KDE.
I don't use KDE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
we are to guess what desktop your using, understand the problem from the vague description given, and also guess what settings you have - and you expect a useful answer? On 9 December 2016 at 21:28, Dave Howorth <dave@howorth.org.uk> wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 11:57:14 -0800 John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/09/2016 09:10 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:
Some windows do not follow my window manager's conventions, with a traditional title bar and separate menu. They also don't respect my border widths. I think they are gnome applications, although there may be others.
Is there any way to configure these applications to respect my choice of appearance and user interface style?
Cheers, Dave
Leap 42.1
Make sure you use the KDE Settings / Configure Desktop / Application Style, Gnome App Style matches the theme you are using for the rest of KDE.
I don't use KDE
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On 12/09/2016 12:28 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 11:57:14 -0800 John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/09/2016 09:10 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:
Some windows do not follow my window manager's conventions, with a traditional title bar and separate menu. They also don't respect my border widths. I think they are gnome applications, although there may be others.
Is there any way to configure these applications to respect my choice of appearance and user interface style?
Cheers, Dave
Leap 42.1
Make sure you use the KDE Settings / Configure Desktop / Application Style, Gnome App Style matches the theme you are using for the rest of KDE.
I don't use KDE
Well then perhaps you would share the name this deep secret window manager you are using so someone can offer some help. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 13:08:28 -0800 John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/09/2016 12:28 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 11:57:14 -0800 John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/09/2016 09:10 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:
Some windows do not follow my window manager's conventions, with a traditional title bar and separate menu. They also don't respect my border widths. I think they are gnome applications, although there may be others.
Is there any way to configure these applications to respect my choice of appearance and user interface style?
Cheers, Dave
Leap 42.1
Make sure you use the KDE Settings / Configure Desktop / Application Style, Gnome App Style matches the theme you are using for the rest of KDE.
I don't use KDE
Well then perhaps you would share the name this deep secret window manager you are using so someone can offer some help.
Sorry, it didn't occur to me that my window manager would be relevant. It's the applications' behaviour I want to change, not the window manager's. I want them to stop overriding it. Anyway, it's openbox on an LXDE desktop. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-12-09 23:38, Dave Howorth wrote:
Sorry, it didn't occur to me that my window manager would be relevant. It's the applications' behaviour I want to change, not the window manager's. I want them to stop overriding it.
Well, you see, it is the desktop and window manager which paints those things, not the applications. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlhLNKQACgkQja8UbcUWM1yusAD8DNdo9mtVDu9dEbb2xLwO+eXB whKyEc2Al/fmeEVnmMEBAIf2P80wk0+hjE6Z5YdH4lMbLsxyiBOuRzRSrVviMXLD =C9D3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 23:48:04 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
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On 2016-12-09 23:38, Dave Howorth wrote:
Sorry, it didn't occur to me that my window manager would be relevant. It's the applications' behaviour I want to change, not the window manager's. I want them to stop overriding it.
Well, you see, it is the desktop and window manager which paints those things, not the applications.
Evidently you don't understand gnome. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dave Howorth wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 23:48:04 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
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On 2016-12-09 23:38, Dave Howorth wrote:
Sorry, it didn't occur to me that my window manager would be relevant. It's the applications' behaviour I want to change, not the window manager's. I want them to stop overriding it.
Well, you see, it is the desktop and window manager which paints those things, not the applications.
Evidently you don't understand gnome.
--- Or maybe the applications don't understand gnome? Are they gnome applications? I.e. if one runs a KDE application like konqueror, does it use gnome widgets (or look & feel) or would it use KDE widgets or conventions? If an application is written using KDE libraries and features and is then run on a gnome desktop, I'd be a bit surprised if it suddenly started working and running like a native gnome application and vice-versa. It might not be impossible, but it would imply a level of coordination and common API adoption that would be atypical of divers open source projects. Are you sure the applications you are running are linked with gnome libraries? I.e. if you type "ldd APPNAME" at a command line, does it show gnome, kde or either one in the list? It might be something completely different, but it the above occurred to me... Do apps linked against different desktop libraries run under any desktop manager looking like a "native" app? I would find it suprising, but its not impossible... ;-) -l -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-12-11 20:16, L A Walsh wrote:
Dave Howorth wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 23:48:04 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
On 2016-12-09 23:38, Dave Howorth wrote:
Or maybe the applications don't understand gnome? Are they gnome applications? I.e. if one runs a KDE application like konqueror, does it use gnome widgets (or look & feel) or would it use KDE widgets or conventions?
If an application is written using KDE libraries and features and is then run on a gnome desktop, I'd be a bit surprised if it suddenly started working and running like a native gnome application and vice-versa. It might not be impossible, but it would imply a level of coordination and common API adoption that would be atypical of divers open source projects.
Exactly. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlhN2GAACgkQja8UbcUWM1w/VgD/UyuzUPxiy++w7Q6/+1OI8YQq yzrsCbUrygB3qYhgwNEA/2JlyY135IeJEc0uDoLQYoUYDdtYxkPlaZ+3zkpe8KVk =uvK6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 17:10:26 +0000 Dave Howorth <dave@howorth.org.uk> wrote:
Some windows do not follow my window manager's conventions, with a traditional title bar and separate menu. They also don't respect my border widths. I think they are gnome applications, although there may be others.
Is there any way to configure these applications to respect my choice of appearance and user interface style?
Cheers, Dave
Leap 42.1
FWIW, I found the solution. Stop using the gnome applications and use the Mate equivalents. Just got to get used to new names like pluma, atril etc. :) Here's one summary of the topic: https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2010/05/why-you-should-not-use-client... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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