[opensuse] Zoom for Linux - Use App .rpm or Browser Plugin?
All, Has anyone used the zoom app on openSUSE or should I just use the Firefox extension? They put out an openSUSE rpm at: https://zoom.us/download?os=linux with instructions at: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Z... There is also the Firefox add-on. Anybody have any thought on which works best? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 11/30/20 6:55 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
Has anyone used the zoom app on openSUSE or should I just use the Firefox extension? They put out an openSUSE rpm at:
https://zoom.us/download?os=linux
with instructions at:
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Z...
There is also the Firefox add-on. Anybody have any thought on which works best?
never mind -- you need to install zoom anyway. All the browser does is pass the meeting link to the zoom application. They made it sound like you could use firefox for the meeting too. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
David C. Rankin wrote:
never mind -- you need to install zoom anyway. All the browser does is pass the meeting link to the zoom application. They made it sound like you could use firefox for the meeting too.
FWIW, with GotoMeeting, Cisco Webex and Jitsi, it runs in the browser. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (1.2°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland.
Am 01.12.20 um 08:39 schrieb Per Jessen:
David C. Rankin wrote:
never mind -- you need to install zoom anyway. All the browser does is pass the meeting link to the zoom application. They made it sound like you could use firefox for the meeting too.
FWIW, with GotoMeeting, Cisco Webex and Jitsi, it runs in the browser.
Zoom also works (probably with some limitations) within Firefox and w/o the original client. I'm using the client on openSUSE heavily for a long time now and it works quite well compared to others I have tried and had to use. Wolfgang
On 12/1/20 2:03 AM, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
FWIW, with GotoMeeting, Cisco Webex and Jitsi, it runs in the browser. Zoom also works (probably with some limitations) within Firefox and w/o the original client.
I'm using the client on openSUSE heavily for a long time now and it works quite well compared to others I have tried and had to use.
Thank you Per and Wolfgang, This was the good info I needed to provide a direction to go. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
hi, Am 01.12.20 um 09:03 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:
I'm using the client on openSUSE heavily for a long time now and it works quite well compared to others I have tried and had to use.
strange, but for me, it does not work well. the client itself seems to work, but it has a dependency to packages ibus and ibus-m17n, which, after installed, changed keyboard layout to english and this was not changeable. i am running KDE, and found out that many people have problems with this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/529822/kde-how-to-get-rid-of-ibus-k... https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/537152/cannot-switch-keyboard-layou... only uninstalling zoom and ibus fixed this. and then i found out, that zoom also works in the browser..... -- Best Regards | Freundliche Grüße | Cordialement | Cordiali Saluti | Atenciosamente | Saludos Cordiales *DI Rainer Klier* DevOps, Research & Development
Hi, Am 01.12.20 um 10:06 schrieb Rainer Klier:
hi,
Am 01.12.20 um 09:03 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:
I'm using the client on openSUSE heavily for a long time now and it works quite well compared to others I have tried and had to use.
strange, but for me, it does not work well.
the client itself seems to work, but it has a dependency to packages ibus and ibus-m17n, which, after installed, changed keyboard layout to english and this was not changeable.
i am running KDE, and found out that many people have problems with this:
I'm running Xfce and Gnome and have a consistently working german keyboard layout. Also using 15.2 and TW on those two machines. I also never had such an issue before. So it sounds like a combination of ibus and KDE which is the issue and not Zoom? Wolfgang
Dne úterý 1. prosince 2020 10:10:22 CET, Wolfgang Rosenauer napsal(a):
Am 01.12.20 um 10:06 schrieb Rainer Klier:
Am 01.12.20 um 09:03 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:
I'm using the client on openSUSE heavily for a long time now and it works quite well compared to others I have tried and had to use.
strange, but for me, it does not work well. the client itself seems to work, but it has a dependency to packages ibus and ibus-m17n, which, after installed, changed keyboard layout to english and this was not changeable. i am running KDE, and found out that many people have problems with this:
I'm running Xfce and Gnome and have a consistently working german keyboard layout. Also using 15.2 and TW on those two machines. I also never had such an issue before. So it sounds like a combination of ibus and KDE which is the issue and not Zoom?
It changed my keyboard layout from Czech to English as well, but as I use only Czech layout, I set Czech in ibus and this seems to be working well (15.2 and TW). The issue is that Zoom depends on ibus while it should be agnostic in this aspect and use whatever DE provides. -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/ Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/
On Tue, 01 Dec 2020 11:04:22 +0100 Vojtěch Zeisek <vojtech.zeisek@opensuse.org> wrote:
The issue is that Zoom depends on ibus while it should be agnostic in this aspect and use whatever DE provides.
Exactly, and there's been a zoom bug filed since time began that they show no sign of fixing. Since I am not compelled to use zoom, I refuse. I don't want ibus on my machine.
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 13:01:49 +0000 Dave Howorth <dave@howorth.org.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Dec 2020 11:04:22 +0100 Vojtěch Zeisek <vojtech.zeisek@opensuse.org> wrote:
The issue is that Zoom depends on ibus while it should be agnostic in this aspect and use whatever DE provides.
Exactly, and there's been a zoom bug filed since time began that they show no sign of fixing.
Since I am not compelled to use zoom, I refuse. I don't want ibus on my machine.
edit: sorry forgot to mention that I don't use KDE. I use LXDE.
Am 01.12.20 um 14:01 schrieb Dave Howorth:
On Tue, 01 Dec 2020 11:04:22 +0100 Vojtěch Zeisek <vojtech.zeisek@opensuse.org> wrote:
The issue is that Zoom depends on ibus while it should be agnostic in this aspect and use whatever DE provides.
Since I am not compelled to use zoom, I refuse. I don't want ibus on my machine.
me too.. Neither zoom nor ibus...... -- Best Regards | Freundliche Grüße | Cordialement | Cordiali Saluti | Atenciosamente | Saludos Cordiales *DI Rainer Klier* DevOps, Research & Development
On 2020-12-01 8:01 a.m., Dave Howorth wrote:
Since I am not compelled to use zoom, I refuse. I don't want ibus on my machine.
My one and only Zoom call was my condo corp annual meeting. I installed the app for it, but apparently it wasn't needed.
hi, Am 01.12.20 um 10:10 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:
Hi,
Am 01.12.20 um 10:06 schrieb Rainer Klier:
strange, but for me, it does not work well.
the client itself seems to work, but it has a dependency to packages ibus and ibus-m17n, which, after installed, changed keyboard layout to english and this was not changeable.
i am running KDE, and found out that many people have problems with this:
So it sounds like a combination of ibus and KDE which is the issue and not Zoom?
yes, you can say it that way. but normally, i don't need ibus, it is requested only by zoom. and i don't understand, why zoom wants this. all other software is ok, with the language/keyboard settings KDE brings/offers.. -- Best Regards | Freundliche Grüße | Cordialement | Cordiali Saluti | Atenciosamente | Saludos Cordiales *DI Rainer Klier* DevOps, Research & Development
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Hi,
Am 01.12.20 um 10:06 schrieb Rainer Klier:
hi,
Am 01.12.20 um 09:03 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:
I'm using the client on openSUSE heavily for a long time now and it works quite well compared to others I have tried and had to use.
strange, but for me, it does not work well.
the client itself seems to work, but it has a dependency to packages ibus and ibus-m17n, which, after installed, changed keyboard layout to english and this was not changeable.
i am running KDE, and found out that many people have problems with this:
I'm running Xfce and Gnome and have a consistently working german keyboard layout. Also using 15.2 and TW on those two machines. I also never had such an issue before.
So it sounds like a combination of ibus and KDE which is the issue and not Zoom?
Might be. It was messing up my xterm behavior thhough... But I just locked ibus and accept to 'break zoom' by not installing the dependency. No issues with that. So it's not a hard dependency that prevents it from running.
hi, Am 01.12.20 um 12:32 schrieb Peter Suetterlin:
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Hi,
Am 01.12.20 um 10:06 schrieb Rainer Klier:
i am running KDE, and found out that many people have problems with this:
So it sounds like a combination of ibus and KDE which is the issue and not Zoom? Might be. It was messing up my xterm behavior thhough... But I just locked ibus and accept to 'break zoom' by not installing the dependency. No issues with that. So it's not a hard dependency that prevents it from running.
ah, cool workaround! thanks for this tipp. -- Best Regards | Freundliche Grüße | Cordialement | Cordiali Saluti | Atenciosamente | Saludos Cordiales *DI Rainer Klier* DevOps, Research & Development
On 01/12/2020 08.39, Per Jessen wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
never mind -- you need to install zoom anyway. All the browser does is pass the meeting link to the zoom application. They made it sound like you could use firefox for the meeting too.
FWIW, with GotoMeeting, Cisco Webex and Jitsi, it runs in the browser.
I don't know about others, but "meet" (jitsi) in my laptops uses so much CPU that the sound stutters (with several people in the room). On the much more powerful desktop computer, the load is minimal. I just tried google meet between desktop and laptop, and I did not need to install anything. Load is high, but with one user it works fine, same as jitsi. More options. It has captions! I did not try zoom, it needs registration and I did not want to bother. But if the app uses less load, it would be interesting for me. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 01/12/2020 10:04, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't know about others, but "meet" (jitsi) in my laptops uses so much CPU that the sound stutters (with several people in the room). On the much more powerful desktop computer, the load is minimal.
I just tried google meet between desktop and laptop, and I did not need to install anything. Load is high, but with one user it works fine, same as jitsi. More options. It has captions!
I did not try zoom, it needs registration and I did not want to bother. But if the app uses less load, it would be interesting for me.
I have that issue of high load on Skype, it sends my laptop fan whirring up to maximum, which pretty much no other activity does. Wire works better, no load issues for me. Unfortunately they try so hard to flog their paid Pro version you wouldn't know they have the free client downloadable, but if you scroll to the bottom of the homepage at wire.com and click the Download link you'll find the Linux appimage. gumb
On 2020-12-01 2:39 a.m., Per Jessen wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
never mind -- you need to install zoom anyway. All the browser does is pass the meeting link to the zoom application. They made it sound like you could use firefox for the meeting too. FWIW, with GotoMeeting, Cisco Webex and Jitsi, it runs in the browser.
I have used Zoom for all of one call. I installed the app, but the browser apparently complained it couldn't find the app and then continued on with the call. Is that app necessary? It appears not to be. On the other hand, I have used Jitsi, Google Meets and Skype without problem All of them work fine in a browser, though I do have the Skype app installed, which works fine.
On 11/30/20 8:34 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 11/30/20 6:55 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
Has anyone used the zoom app on openSUSE or should I just use the Firefox extension? They put out an openSUSE rpm at:
https://zoom.us/download?os=linux
with instructions at:
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Z...
There is also the Firefox add-on. Anybody have any thought on which works best?
never mind -- you need to install zoom anyway. All the browser does is pass the meeting link to the zoom application. They made it sound like you could use firefox for the meeting too.
On 15.1, I don't think this is correct. You can use either separately, but links in an e-mail may always invoke the app thru the browser. To use the add-on, you may have to use another route to get the add on, maybe going to the Zoom Website. It's been several months and I may have only tried the add-ons on an Ubuntu box. Jeffrey
Dne úterý 1. prosince 2020 1:55:10 CET, David C. Rankin napsal(a):
All, Has anyone used the zoom app on openSUSE or should I just use the Firefox extension? They put out an openSUSE rpm at: https://zoom.us/download?os=linux with instructions at: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating -Zoom-on-Linux#h_89c268b4-2a68-4e4c-882f-441e374b87cb There is also the Firefox add-on. Anybody have any thought on which works best?
The RPM runs well on TW as well as Leap, it just doesn't check for updates. -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/ Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/
I use tumbleweed with the latest zoom rpm and it adds a plugin for firefox. On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 3:55 AM David C. Rankin < drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
All,
Has anyone used the zoom app on openSUSE or should I just use the Firefox extension? They put out an openSUSE rpm at:
https://zoom.us/download?os=linux
with instructions at:
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Z...
There is also the Firefox add-on. Anybody have any thought on which works best?
-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. _______________________________________________ openSUSE Users mailing list -- users@lists.opensuse.org To unsubscribe, email users-leave@lists.opensuse.org List Netiquette: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette List Archives: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/users@lists.opensuse.org
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David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> a écrit : Has anyone used the zoom app on openSUSE or should I just use the Firefox extension? They put out an openSUSE rpm at: There is also the Firefox add-on. Anybody have any thought on which works best?
I have been using Zoom moderately since March on Leap and more recently on TW to talk with family and friends with absolutely no problems. Sometimes I use Falkon and sometimes I use Firefox for Zoom. As a rule I usually check to see if I can download a new rpm from their site each time before using it and, more often than not, there is a new rpm. The last time I installed it on a fresh install of TW I had to reboot TW to get the sound working. I have never used the Firefox extension and I would more details. Regards James
On 11/30/20 6:55 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
Has anyone used the zoom app on openSUSE or should I just use the Firefox extension? They put out an openSUSE rpm at:
https://zoom.us/download?os=linux
with instructions at:
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Z...
There is also the Firefox add-on. Anybody have any thought on which works best?
The Zoom app downloaded from Zoom for OpenSUSE (.rpm) works fine on 15.1 and takes about 60% of the CPU power that the Chromium and Firefox add-ons use. I haven't compared functionality. The Linux Zoom app has functionality, AFAICT, the Windows 10 doesn't (starting your own personal meeting). HTH, Jeffrey
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