If someone from SuSE is reading this, please look into fixing this list. This is the second day that I have been receiving every message about 4 times. Thanks, Charles -- The only "intuitive" interface is the nipple. After that, it's all learned. (Bruce Ediger, bediger@teal.csn.org, in comp.os.linux.misc, on X interfaces.)
That is on your end Not happening here. Forrest On 26 Jun 2002 16:25:52 -0400, a large badger frolicked about on your keyboard, and out came:
If someone from SuSE is reading this, please look into fixing this list. This is the second day that I have been receiving every message about 4 times.
Thanks, Charles
-- The only "intuitive" interface is the nipple. After that, it's all learned. (Bruce Ediger, bediger@teal.csn.org, in comp.os.linux.misc, on X interfaces.)
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 16:34, Forrest Halford wrote:
That is on your end Not happening here.
Now this is really weird. The dups are only happening with the SuSE lists. Charles -- But what can you do with it? -- ubiquitous cry from Linux-user partner. (Submitted by Andy Pearce, ajp@hpopd.pwd.hp.com)
What mail client are you using? I had the same problem a while back and it was an issue with having duplicate Outlook rules making copies in addition to moving the messages as they arrived. Seth -----Original Message----- From: Charles Philip Chan [mailto:cpchan@sympatico.ca] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 2:44 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Please fix this list On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 16:34, Forrest Halford wrote:
That is on your end Not happening here.
Now this is really weird. The dups are only happening with the SuSE lists. Charles -- But what can you do with it? -- ubiquitous cry from Linux-user partner. (Submitted by Andy Pearce, ajp@hpopd.pwd.hp.com) -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 21:44, Charles Philip Chan wrote:
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 16:34, Forrest Halford wrote:
That is on your end Not happening here.
Now this is really weird. The dups are only happening with the SuSE lists.
I had this happen with another list - it was down to a duplicated filter rule in Evolution. Might be worth checking, if you filter the list as I do to a separate folder. David
At 16:25 26-6-2002 -0400, you wrote:
If someone from SuSE is reading this, please look into fixing this list. This is the second day that I have been receiving every message about 4 times.
I think you might be on your own. I just receive every message only once. How many times did you subscribe? ;-)
Thanks, Charles
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On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 16:39, Leen de Braal wrote:
I think you might be on your own. I just receive every message only once. How many times did you subscribe? ;-)
I have subscribed only once for each list (I have been on SuSE English and SuSE Security for several years). The weird thing is that the dups only happens with the SuSE lists. It started yesterday. Charles -- But what can you do with it? -- ubiquitous cry from Linux-user partner. (Submitted by Andy Pearce, ajp@hpopd.pwd.hp.com)
On Wednesday 26 June 2002 22.48, Charles Philip Chan wrote:
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 16:39, Leen de Braal wrote:
I think you might be on your own. I just receive every message only once. How many times did you subscribe? ;-)
I have subscribed only once for each list (I have been on SuSE English and SuSE Security for several years). The weird thing is that the dups only happens with the SuSE lists. It started yesterday.
If you've been here for several years you must have seen at least once when Chris points out that the proper procedure in these cases isn't sending mail to the list, but sending the complete headers of the duplicate mails to either ml-admin@suse.com or suse-linux-e-owner@suse.com //Anders -- `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'
Charles, In my 10 years of running listservs (majordomo and Mailman) I have not yet run into a bug where the listserv was generating duplicates. You should look at your Internet headers and first find out if the culprit is on the SuSE side. I've found problems with IMAP and POP servers. I've seen mail received by an ISP where the ISP reports an error back to the sender, causing the sender to continue sending (bug in ISP's MTA in this case). The Internet headers will tell you. You should be able to tell if the SuSE server actually sent the message multiple times. On 26 Jun 2002 at 16:25, Charles Philip Chan wrote:
If someone from SuSE is reading this, please look into fixing this list. This is the second day that I have been receiving every message about 4 times.
-- Jerry Feldman Enterprise Systems Group Hewlett-Packard Company 200 Forest Street MRO1-3/F1 Marlboro, Ma. 01752 508-467-4315 http://www.testdrive.compaq.com/linux/
Every time I have seen duplicates it is due to rules in MS Outlook or a similiar e-mail client or procmail, etc. Not the listservs. I have been on this list for several years and never has it duplicated e-mails. /Dee "Jerry Feldman" <gerald.feldman@hp.com> wrote:
Charles, In my 10 years of running listservs (majordomo and Mailman) I have not yet run into a bug where the listserv was generating duplicates. You should look at your Internet headers and first find out if the culprit is on the SuSE side. I've found problems with IMAP and POP servers. I've seen mail received by an ISP where the ISP reports an error back to the sender, causing the sender to continue sending (bug in ISP's MTA in this case). The Internet headers will tell you. You should be able to tell if the SuSE server actually sent the message multiple times.
On 26 Jun 2002 at 16:25, Charles Philip Chan wrote:
If someone from SuSE is reading this, please look into fixing this list. This is the second day that I have been receiving every message about 4 times.
On Wednesday 26 June 2002 23.13, W.D. McKinney wrote:
Every time I have seen duplicates it is due to rules in MS Outlook or a similiar e-mail client or procmail, etc. Not the listservs.
He's using Evolution (header checked). 'Bout as close to Outlook as you can get on Linux. You don't suppose when Evolution was copying Outlook, they ported the same bugs over. As features. :-D Later, Joe "Flame" Sullivan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Firechild Web Design and CGI Scripting Services http://firechild.net Secretary, World Association of Internet Marketing http://waim.org Webmaster, Amerikanska - For Americans In Sweden http://amerikanska.com Meta-editor, Open Directory Project http://dmoz.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 17:22, Joe Sullivan wrote:
You don't suppose when Evolution was copying Outlook, they ported the same bugs over. As features. :-D
I think they did, not only with the bugs, but also the bloat ;-). At least this is the conclusion I came to after testing it for a few days. Now if only Linux have a light weight PIM with Pilot integration and a better interface than Jpilot... Charles -- "The IETF motto is 'rough consensus and running code'" -- Scott Bradner (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 17:13, W.D. McKinney wrote:
Every time I have seen duplicates it is due to rules in MS Outlook or a similiar e-mail client or procmail, etc. Not the listservs.
Thanks for the hint, it is indeed duplicate rules. I am in the process of testing Evolution 1.0.7.99 mainly due to Pilot integration. I was using Jpilot and Sylpheed for that, but I hated the Jpilot interface. Time to switch back to Sylpheed for mail though, I am not impressed with the mailer in Evolution. Charles -- "...Deep Hack Mode--that mysterious and frightening state of consciousness where Mortal Users fear to tread." (By Matt Welsh)
Things like this should go to listname-owner@suse.com or postmaster@suse.com, sending it to the list is pointless. * Charles Philip Chan (cpchan@sympatico.ca) [020626 13:29]:
If someone from SuSE is reading this, please look into fixing this list. This is the second day that I have been receiving every message about 4 times.
As others have already pointed out, it's your end. Look at the message numbers in the envelopes of the duplicates--they will be the same for each message. -- -ckm
Christopher, before you proclaim that it is on his end, he needs to look at the headers. They will tell whether the problem is on his end, on SuSE's end or in the middle. Without the headers we can only guess, and our experiences indicate that the problem is most likely either with his client (evolution) or with his POP3 or IMAP server. On 26 Jun 2002 at 14:24, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
As others have already pointed out, it's your end. Look at the message numbers in the envelopes of the duplicates--they will be the same for each message.
-- Jerry Feldman Enterprise Systems Group Hewlett-Packard Company 200 Forest Street MRO1-3/F1 Marlboro, Ma. 01752 508-467-4315 http://www.testdrive.compaq.com/linux/
* Jerry Feldman (gerald.feldman@hp.com) [020626 14:47]:
Christopher, before you proclaim that it is on his end, he needs to look at the headers.
The headers won't tell him anything, it's the verp that's important. I've never seen (or even heard of) duplicates with qmail/ezmlm caused by anything except a buggy mail server or client at the other end or some idiot resending list mail with all of the headers removed. Could it a be an until now undiscovered and untriggered bug in qmail/ezmlm? Sure, but given the prevalance of problems caused by the "remote end" and the maturity of qmail/ezmlm it's pretty unlikely. Please, let's kill this thread now. Feel free to contact me off the list. Cheers, -- -ckm
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