[opensuse] European HAMNET - use of 44/8.
This is really OT, but as I mentioned it here very briefly - this is a very interesting presentation: http://www.tapr.org/pdf/DCC2014-TheEuropeanHAMNET-DG8NGN.pdf Makes me almost want to go active again, though I guess I would need to convert to an HB callsign. Amazing to think that there is an entire class A network in private hands. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (26.9°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Per Jessen
This is really OT, but as I mentioned it here very briefly - this is a very interesting presentation:
http://www.tapr.org/pdf/DCC2014-TheEuropeanHAMNET-DG8NGN.pdf
Makes me almost want to go active again, though I guess I would need to convert to an HB callsign.
Amazing to think that there is an entire class A network in private hands.
I went to a client site a few years ago. They were a manufacturer of telco gear. Thousands of people at the location I went to. When they first told me all their IPs were public, I tried to explain NAT and that surely they were using public IPs for everything. They corrected me. They had a class A as I recall. When they bought a manufacturing plant from AT&T it came with a Class-A network. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-05-27 20:14, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Per Jessen <> wrote:
I went to a client site a few years ago. They were a manufacturer of telco gear. Thousands of people at the location I went to.
When they first told me all their IPs were public, I tried to explain NAT and that surely they were using public IPs for everything.
They corrected me. They had a class A as I recall. When they bought a manufacturing plant from AT&T it came with a Class-A network.
It could be Lucent. I worked there. Yes, we had a class A, meaning that AT&T had several. Now they are Alcatel-Lucent, so I suppose Alcatel has an A class network, now. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-05-27 20:14, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Per Jessen <> wrote:
I went to a client site a few years ago. They were a manufacturer of telco gear. Thousands of people at the location I went to.
When they first told me all their IPs were public, I tried to explain NAT and that surely they were using public IPs for everything.
They corrected me. They had a class A as I recall. When they bought a manufacturing plant from AT&T it came with a Class-A network.
It could be Lucent. I worked there. Yes, we had a class A, meaning that AT&T had several. Now they are Alcatel-Lucent, so I suppose Alcatel has an A class network, now.
It's all publicly available you know. The whois databases have it all. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (18.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-05-27 20:14, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Per Jessen <> wrote:
I went to a client site a few years ago. They were a manufacturer of telco gear. Thousands of people at the location I went to.
When they first told me all their IPs were public, I tried to explain NAT and that surely they were using public IPs for everything.
They corrected me. They had a class A as I recall. When they bought a manufacturing plant from AT&T it came with a Class-A network.
It could be Lucent. I worked there. Yes, we had a class A, meaning that AT&T had several. Now they are Alcatel-Lucent, so I suppose Alcatel has an A class network, now.
It's all publicly available you know. The whois databases have it all.
For instance: 3 = General Electric Company 4 = Level 3 Communications, Inc. 6 = Headquarters, USAISC 7 = DoD Network Information Center 8 = Level 3 Communications, Inc. 9 = IBM 10 = Internet Assigned Numbers Authority 11 = DoD Network Information Center 12 = AT&T Services, Inc. 13 = Xerox Corporation 14 = APNIC 15 = HP 16 = HP 17 = Apple 18 = MIT 19 = Ford Motor Company 20 = Computer Sciences Corporation and so on and so forth. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (18.1°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Per Jessen
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-05-27 20:14, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Per Jessen <> wrote:
I went to a client site a few years ago. They were a manufacturer of telco gear. Thousands of people at the location I went to.
When they first told me all their IPs were public, I tried to explain NAT and that surely they were using public IPs for everything.
They corrected me. They had a class A as I recall. When they bought a manufacturing plant from AT&T it came with a Class-A network.
It could be Lucent. I worked there. Yes, we had a class A, meaning that AT&T had several. Now they are Alcatel-Lucent, so I suppose Alcatel has an A class network, now.
It's all publicly available you know. The whois databases have it all.
The list of class A network owners may be public, but my client list isn't! As I recall they very much did not want their name listed as one of my clients. Remember I get called into sensitive situations at times. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Per Jessen
wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Per Jessen <> wrote: I went to a client site a few years ago. They were a manufacturer of telco gear. Thousands of people at the location I went to.
When they first told me all their IPs were public, I tried to explain NAT and that surely they were using public IPs for everything.
They corrected me. They had a class A as I recall. When they bought a manufacturing plant from AT&T it came with a Class-A network. It could be Lucent. I worked there. Yes, we had a class A, meaning
On 2016-05-27 20:14, Greg Freemyer wrote: that AT&T had several. Now they are Alcatel-Lucent, so I suppose Alcatel has an A class network, now. It's all publicly available you know. The whois databases have it all.
The list of class A network owners may be public, but my client list isn't!
Edward Snowden might have an opinion about that :-)
As I recall they very much did not want their name listed as one of my clients. Remember I get called into sensitive situations at times.
I should think most of the time? /Per -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/27/2016 02:43 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
It could be Lucent. I worked there. Yes, we had a class A, meaning
that AT&T had several. Now they are Alcatel-Lucent, so I suppose Alcatel has an A class network, now. It's all publicly available you know. The whois databases have it all.
Don't forget, DEC, Compaq and HP all had large blocks. They'd all be owned by HP now, unless they got rid of some. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/27/2016 02:14 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Per Jessen
wrote: This is really OT, but as I mentioned it here very briefly - this is a very interesting presentation:
http://www.tapr.org/pdf/DCC2014-TheEuropeanHAMNET-DG8NGN.pdf
Makes me almost want to go active again, though I guess I would need to convert to an HB callsign.
Amazing to think that there is an entire class A network in private hands.
I went to a client site a few years ago. They were a manufacturer of telco gear. Thousands of people at the location I went to.
When they first told me all their IPs were public, I tried to explain NAT and that surely they were using public IPs for everything.
They corrected me. They had a class A as I recall. When they bought a manufacturing plant from AT&T it came with a Class-A network.
Greg
Back when I was at IBM in the late 90s, I had 5 public addresses, 1 for my own computer and 4 for testing. IBM had the entire 9.0.0.0/8 block and my address was 9.29.146.147. When we started working with Ethernet, we used 8.0.0.0/8. I also had 5 SNA addresses. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
On 05/27/2016 02:14 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Per Jessen
wrote: This is really OT, but as I mentioned it here very briefly - this is a very interesting presentation:
http://www.tapr.org/pdf/DCC2014-TheEuropeanHAMNET-DG8NGN.pdf
Makes me almost want to go active again, though I guess I would need to convert to an HB callsign.
Amazing to think that there is an entire class A network in private hands.
I went to a client site a few years ago. They were a manufacturer of telco gear. Thousands of people at the location I went to.
When they first told me all their IPs were public, I tried to explain NAT and that surely they were using public IPs for everything.
They corrected me. They had a class A as I recall. When they bought a manufacturing plant from AT&T it came with a Class-A network.
Greg
Back when I was at IBM in the late 90s, I had 5 public addresses, 1 for my own computer and 4 for testing. IBM had the entire 9.0.0.0/8 block and my address was 9.29.146.147. When we started working with Ethernet, we used 8.0.0.0/8. I also had 5 SNA addresses.
SNA nodes or logical units, you mean :-) Yep, remnants of a misspent youth in IBM mainframe land. PU4, PU5, LU6.2 - wow, it's been a long time. VTAM ..... -- Per Jessen, Zürich (22.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Il 28. 05. 16 19:40, Per Jessen ha scritto:
James Knott wrote:
On 05/27/2016 02:14 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Per Jessen
wrote: This is really OT, but as I mentioned it here very briefly - this is a very interesting presentation:
http://www.tapr.org/pdf/DCC2014-TheEuropeanHAMNET-DG8NGN.pdf
Makes me almost want to go active again, though I guess I would need to convert to an HB callsign.
Amazing to think that there is an entire class A network in private hands. I went to a client site a few years ago. They were a manufacturer of telco gear. Thousands of people at the location I went to.
When they first told me all their IPs were public, I tried to explain NAT and that surely they were using public IPs for everything.
They corrected me. They had a class A as I recall. When they bought a manufacturing plant from AT&T it came with a Class-A network.
Greg Back when I was at IBM in the late 90s, I had 5 public addresses, 1 for my own computer and 4 for testing. IBM had the entire 9.0.0.0/8 block and my address was 9.29.146.147. When we started working with Ethernet, we used 8.0.0.0/8. I also had 5 SNA addresses. SNA nodes or logical units, you mean :-) Yep, remnants of a misspent youth in IBM mainframe land. PU4, PU5, LU6.2 - wow, it's been a long time. VTAM .....
44.142.93.1, that's my ampr.og address... always connected using OpenSUSE boxes (starting from version 5 I believe :-D ) And yes, PU0 (!), PU4, PU5, LU6.2, VTAM, Token Ring, IP over SNA, .... the old god time ;-) Years ago I have been also working to create some order in a big company, owning a Class-A network at that time, that was internally using all but not the appropriate IP-addresses... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Carlos E. R.
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Greg Freemyer
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James Knott
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Marco
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Per Jessen