[opensuse] Leap to Leap 42.2 mini-bug
Hi, Yesterday I made the long overdue switch from 13.1 to Leap 42.2. Yeah, I know. I did a new installation with preservation of /home and existing users. That was certainly not a straightforward procedure and I wonder how many unsuspecting switchers wiped their home directory in the process. (Yeah, right, you should make a backup) First the good thing: the default network setup by wicked performed flawlessly, a pleasant surprise, because most of the time to set up the netwerkservice was a royal PITA. A couple of glitches, the suggested packman repository at Austria was dead (fortunately the mirror at uni-erlangen was up) and to my complete surprise Thunderbird did not get installed in the default setup. I'm completely stumped by the following irritating, but not showstopping, bug (feature?) in Konsole: whenever I type a - (minus sign) I get an upside down T-beam (like the APL base operator for the cognoscenti). This only happens in Konsole, not in tty and not in Xterm or any other flat text application (Kate, Kwrite etc). Using KDE.. Any suggestions? Regards, Jos -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-04-16 21:03, Jos van Kan wrote:
Hi,
Yesterday I made the long overdue switch from 13.1 to Leap 42.2. Yeah, I know. I did a new installation with preservation of /home and existing users.
I did an upgrade from 13.1. Ie, boot the DVD, choose upgrade. Quite uneventful, considering.
I'm completely stumped by the following irritating, but not showstopping, bug (feature?) in Konsole: whenever I type a - (minus sign) I get an upside down T-beam (like the APL base operator for the cognoscenti). This only happens in Konsole, not in tty and not in Xterm or any other flat text application (Kate, Kwrite etc). Using KDE.. Any suggestions?
I can not even imagine it, sorry. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 04/16/2017 02:03 PM, Jos van Kan wrote:
Using KDE.. Any suggestions?
Do you have anything 'aliased' to 'a'? Do you have a 'locale' mismatch? (openSuSE enables just about all locales by default -- somewhat crazy) Take a look at: $ locale -a Is your not listed (hard to imagine, but worth checking) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 18-04-17 05:29, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 04/16/2017 02:03 PM, Jos van Kan wrote:
Using KDE.. Any suggestions? Do you have anything 'aliased' to 'a'? Do you have a 'locale' mismatch? (openSuSE enables just about all locales by default -- somewhat crazy) Take a look at:
$ locale -a
Is your not listed (hard to imagine, but worth checking)
Neither. Among the 473 enabled locales there are 7 for the dutch language 3 for the Netherlands, 3 for Belgium and one for Aruba. LANG is set to nl_NL@euro which is among those :) The thing that absolutely stumps me is that neither xterm, nor kate nor kwrite show this behavior, only Konsole. But what does Konsole have that the others don't? I tried to edit the keyboard in Konsole's profile: in the test area the minus sign is rendered correctly but in the Konsole window, where it matters, it isn't. Regards, Jos -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 18-04-17 09:35, Jos van Kan wrote:
On 18-04-17 05:29, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 04/16/2017 02:03 PM, Jos van Kan wrote:
Using KDE.. Any suggestions? Do you have anything 'aliased' to 'a'? Do you have a 'locale' mismatch? (openSuSE enables just about all locales by default -- somewhat crazy) Take a look at:
$ locale -a
Is your not listed (hard to imagine, but worth checking)
Neither. Among the 473 enabled locales there are 7 for the dutch language 3 for the Netherlands, 3 for Belgium and one for Aruba. LANG is set to nl_NL@euro which is among those :)
The thing that absolutely stumps me is that neither xterm, nor kate nor kwrite show this behavior, only Konsole. But what does Konsole have that the others don't? I tried to edit the keyboard in Konsole's profile: in the test area the minus sign is rendered correctly but in the Konsole window, where it matters, it isn't.
Regards, Jos
Finally after having googled till the cows came home "Leap 42.2 Konsole problems" it finally dawned on me that the root of all evil could well be KDE5. So sure enough the search "KDE5 Konsole problems" gave me an avalanche of rendering problems in Konsole often related to a font. So I checked the font used in my Konsole and sure enough it was .... (drum roll) APL UPRIGHT (ugggh). Didn 't I tell you that the minus sign was rendered as the APL base operator? So switching to a well behaved font like Deja vu solved the problem. Which genius thought of using APL UPRIGHT ( a dedicated font that only two or three people in the world use) as suited for something as pedestrian as Konsole really beats me. The other thing that beats me is, that the APL keyboard mapping actually maps the minus sign into a ... minus sign. But I think I won't investigate this matter further. :) Thanks to Carlos and David who helped to eliminate some possible causes. Regards, Jos -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-04-18 18:50, Jos van Kan wrote:
Finally after having googled till the cows came home "Leap 42.2 Konsole problems" it finally dawned on me that the root of all evil could well be KDE5. So sure enough the search "KDE5 Konsole problems" gave me an avalanche of rendering problems in Konsole often related to a font. So I checked the font used in my Konsole and sure enough it was .... (drum roll) APL UPRIGHT (ugggh).
:-( I could not imagine a font drawing a minus sign differently, so I didn't suggest it... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 18-04-17 19:57, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-04-18 18:50, Jos van Kan wrote:
Finally after having googled till the cows came home "Leap 42.2 Konsole problems" it finally dawned on me that the root of all evil could well be KDE5. So sure enough the search "KDE5 Konsole problems" gave me an avalanche of rendering problems in Konsole often related to a font. So I checked the font used in my Konsole and sure enough it was .... (drum roll) APL UPRIGHT (ugggh). :-(
I could not imagine a font drawing a minus sign differently, so I didn't suggest it...
No. Neither did I. But a serendipitous google act brought out the culprit. -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/18/2017 11:50 AM, Jos van Kan wrote:
Which genius thought of using APL UPRIGHT ( a dedicated font that only two or three people in the world use) as suited for something as pedestrian as Konsole really beats me. The other thing that beats me is, that the APL keyboard mapping actually maps the minus sign into a ... minus sign. But I think I won't investigate this matter further. :) Thanks to Carlos and David who helped to eliminate some possible causes.
ROTFLMAO!!!! I've only written about 100 bugs against bleeding edge current release of FW5/plasma on Arch, it finally got so ridiculous (e.g. having to hit ctrl+z twice to undue a single input, mismatched dialogs, ridiculous spectacle that cannot capture a screenshot of itself, hit-or-miss kioslave behavior, basic math model errors in cube reflection, etc, etc. etc....), I threw in the towel and went back to Leap and KDE3. Have had no issues since and don't waste and hour a day chasing down somebody else's botch code that provides an annoyance on the desktop I'm trying to use. Continued kudos to Ilya and Mark's tireless efforts... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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