On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 08:46, John Pettigrew wrote:

In a previous message, Jason Joines wrote:

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In SuSE 8.0, I could configure Sendmail to be a null client[snip] In 8.1 with Postfix, I cannot get the Null client to work.

If you were happy with sendmail, just use that instead. SuSE changed the default, but it's still there.

John

The best part is that this list runs on qmail, which is not included :-) Dee

Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:

* W.D.McKinney [Jan 06. 2004 19:20]:

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In SuSE 8.0, I could configure Sendmail to be a null client[snip] In 8.1 with Postfix, I cannot get the Null client to work.

Yes, I did run SuSEconfig. Here are some logs. On both the SuSE 8.0 with sendmail and the SuSE 8.1 with postfix boxes, I fired up Pine as root and sent a test message to root. The sendmail null client hands the message off to the relay host with no problem and uses localhost as the relay to do so. The postfix null client tries to use the relay host to send the mail back to itself which doesn't work because it's not listening on the network. In /var/log/mail on the SuSE 8.0 / sendmail null client box, the message generated this: Jan 6 13:28:10 suse80 sendmail[22010]: i06JSANY022010: from=, size=327, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=, proto=ESMTP, relay=root@localhost Jan 6 13:28:10 suse80 sendmail[22013]: i06JSAcv022013: from=, size=521, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=, proto=ESMTP, daemon=Daemon0, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] Jan 6 13:28:10 suse80 sendmail[22012]: i06JSANY022010: to=, ctladdr= (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=120301, relay=localhost.my.domain.org. [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (i06JSAcv022013 Message accepted for delivery) Jan 6 13:28:10 suse80 sendmail[22015]: i06JSAcv022013: to=, ctladdr= (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=120495, relay=central [172.16.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (i06JSA2R031034 Message accepted for delivery) In /var/log/mail on the SuSE 8.0 / sendmail box that is supposed to receive all the mail, the message generated this: Jan 6 13:28:10 central sendmail[31034]: i06JSA2R031034: from=, size=746, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=suse80.my.domain.org [172.16.0.2] In /var/log/mail on the SuSE 8.1 / postfix null client box , the message generated this: Jan 6 13:20:33 suse81 postfix/smtpd[16583]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Jan 6 13:20:33 suse81 postfix/smtpd[16583]: 41ADC2437F69: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] Jan 6 13:20:33 suse81 postfix/smtpd[16583]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Jan 6 13:20:33 suse81 postfix/pickup[16501]: 5ABBA2026B70: uid=0 from= Jan 6 13:20:33 suse81 postfix/cleanup[16585]: 5ABBA2026B70: message-id= Jan 6 13:20:33 suse81 postfix/qmgr[16502]: 5ABBA2026B70: from=, size=617, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 6 13:20:33 suse81 postfix/smtp[16587]: 5ABBA2026B70: to=, relay=central.my.domain.org[172.16.0.1], delay=0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 i06JKY2R030862 Message accepted for delivery) In /var/log/mail on the SuSE 8.0 / sendmail box that is supposed to receive all the mail, the message generated this: Jan 6 13:20:34 central sendmail[30864]: i06JKY2R030862: to=, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=120583, relay=suse81.my.domain.org., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by suse81.my.domain.org. The key seems to be that the sendmail null client uses "relay=localhost" before "relay=central" but the postfix null client only uses "relay=central". Thanks, Jason ===========

Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:

Can we see your /etc/sysconfig/mail and /etc/sysconfig/postfix too?

Here they are with comments removed. suse81:/ # cat /etc/sysconfig/mail FROM_HEADER="" MAIL_CREATE_CONFIG="yes" SMTPD_LISTEN_REMOTE="no" suse81:/ # cat /etc/sysconfig/postfix POSTFIX_RELAYHOST="[central.my.domain.org]" POSTFIX_MASQUERADE_DOMAIN="" POSTFIX_LOCALDOMAINS="" POSTFIX_NULLCLIENT="yes" POSTFIX_DIALUP="no" POSTFIX_NODNS="no" POSTFIX_CHROOT="no" POSTFIX_UPDATE_CHROOT_JAIL="no" POSTFIX_LAPTOP="no" POSTFIX_UPDATE_MAPS="yes" POSTFIX_RBL_HOSTS="" POSTFIX_BASIC_SPAM_PREVENTION="off" POSTFIX_MDA="local"

* W.D.McKinney [Jan 06. 2004 21:48]:

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And sad as it is--ezmlm only works with qmail.

Not a problem for me. I run ezmlm and mailman on qmail.

Why anyone would want to run mailman when qmail is there is beyond me. -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.

On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 21:02, Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:

We're not allowed to distribute qmail, and the _only_ reason it's running that in the first place is that ezmlm is the only mailing list manager that can handle lists like these so smoothly and with this kind of hardware.

Pure geek curiosity: what sort of hardware do you use, and what sort of load does the mailing lists cause on these? Thanks Hans