[opensuse] what is file "/etc/aliases.YaST2save"
Hello.. [openSuSE 10.3 - 32bit - Gnome] A new user question: what exactly is the file "/etc/aliases.YaST2save" and what YaST2 or other module uses it? As a side note, while I was trying to use YaST2 help to look for an answer to my question, I got the following rather unhelpful response: msbmain:/home/rsil # yast2 mail setup help Unknown option for command 'setup': help Use 'yast2 mail setup help' for a complete list of available options. Thanks and cheers. Ralph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
listreader wrote:
A new user question: what exactly is the file "/etc/aliases.YaST2save" and what YaST2 or other module uses it?
Others may correct me, but that's a backup file of /etc/aliases, made just before Yast2 makes modifications to it.
As a side note, while I was trying to use YaST2 help to look for an answer to my question, I got the following rather unhelpful response: msbmain:/home/rsil # yast2 mail setup help Unknown option for command 'setup': help Use 'yast2 mail setup help' for a complete list of available options.
Ha! That one made me laugh. I had to read it through twice to get the point of it. Again, others may correct me, but I would bug-report that one! That's a GOOD bug! :-D Best wishes, Glen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 20:38 -0800, Glen wrote:
listreader wrote:
A new user question: what exactly is the file "/etc/aliases.YaST2save" and what YaST2 or other module uses it?
Others may correct me, but that's a backup file of /etc/aliases, made just before Yast2 makes modifications to it.
That is what I originally thought but I don't see anything in YaST2 (Gnome interface) that uses it.
As a side note, while I was trying to use YaST2 help to look for an answer to my question, I got the following rather unhelpful response: msbmain:/home/rsil # yast2 mail setup help Unknown option for command 'setup': help Use 'yast2 mail setup help' for a complete list of available options.
Ha! That one made me laugh. I had to read it through twice to get the point of it.
Again, others may correct me, but I would bug-report that one! That's a GOOD bug! :-D
Best wishes, Glen
I think someone will probably soon use that "help" tidbit in their sig. And thanks for the response! Cheers. Ralph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 23:57 -0600, listreader wrote:
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 20:38 -0800, Glen wrote:
listreader wrote:
A new user question: what exactly is the file "/etc/aliases.YaST2save" and what YaST2 or other module uses it?
Others may correct me, but that's a backup file of /etc/aliases, made just before Yast2 makes modifications to it.
That is what I originally thought but I don't see anything in YaST2 (Gnome interface) that uses it.
If you go into Yast2 and select Mail Transfer Agent module, you will see a click button for Aliases. -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 00:08 -0600, Bryen wrote:
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 23:57 -0600, listreader wrote:
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 20:38 -0800, Glen wrote:
listreader wrote:
A new user question: what exactly is the file "/etc/aliases.YaST2save" and what YaST2 or other module uses it?
Others may correct me, but that's a backup file of /etc/aliases, made just before Yast2 makes modifications to it.
That is what I originally thought but I don't see anything in YaST2 (Gnome interface) that uses it.
If you go into Yast2 and select Mail Transfer Agent module, you will see a click button for Aliases.
Thank you, Bryen! That is exactly the module I was looking for and did not see. I do get "mail server is not configured" on the first screen of the module, though it should be cli configured already, so I will put it off until the morning and then figure it out. Thanks again for the help! Cheers. Ralph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
listreader pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello..
[openSuSE 10.3 - 32bit - Gnome]
A new user question: what exactly is the file "/etc/aliases.YaST2save" and what YaST2 or other module uses it?
As a side note, while I was trying to use YaST2 help to look for an answer to my question, I got the following rather unhelpful response:
msbmain:/home/rsil # yast2 mail setup help Unknown option for command 'setup': help Use 'yast2 mail setup help' for a complete list of available options.
Thanks and cheers.
Ralph
It actually is quite helpful. The error message is telling you to enclose your command in single quotes when you run it. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 23:41 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:
listreader pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello..
[openSuSE 10.3 - 32bit - Gnome]
A new user question: what exactly is the file "/etc/aliases.YaST2save" and what YaST2 or other module uses it?
As a side note, while I was trying to use YaST2 help to look for an answer to my question, I got the following rather unhelpful response:
msbmain:/home/rsil # yast2 mail setup help Unknown option for command 'setup': help Use 'yast2 mail setup help' for a complete list of available options.
Thanks and cheers.
Ralph
It actually is quite helpful. The error message is telling you to enclose your command in single quotes when you run it.
-- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998
Hello.. Thanks for the really fast response but I don't think that is it. With quotes I get: msbmain:/home/rsil # 'yast2 mail setup help' bash: yast2 mail setup help: command not found Cheers. Ralph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 22:56 -0600, listreader wrote:
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 23:41 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:
listreader pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello..
[openSuSE 10.3 - 32bit - Gnome]
A new user question: what exactly is the file "/etc/aliases.YaST2save" and what YaST2 or other module uses it?
As a side note, while I was trying to use YaST2 help to look for an answer to my question, I got the following rather unhelpful response:
msbmain:/home/rsil # yast2 mail setup help Unknown option for command 'setup': help Use 'yast2 mail setup help' for a complete list of available options.
Thanks and cheers.
Ralph
It actually is quite helpful. The error message is telling you to enclose your command in single quotes when you run it.
-- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998
Hello..
Thanks for the really fast response but I don't think that is it. With quotes I get:
msbmain:/home/rsil # 'yast2 mail setup help' bash: yast2 mail setup help: command not found
Cheers.
Ralph
You can do the following commands: yast2 mail yast2 mail setup yast2 mail setup --help -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 22:27 -0600, listreader wrote:
Hello..
[openSuSE 10.3 - 32bit - Gnome]
A new user question: what exactly is the file "/etc/aliases.YaST2save" and what YaST2 or other module uses it?
As a side note, while I was trying to use YaST2 help to look for an answer to my question, I got the following rather unhelpful response:
msbmain:/home/rsil # yast2 mail setup help Unknown option for command 'setup': help Use 'yast2 mail setup help' for a complete list of available options.
Thanks and cheers.
Ralph
It is used by the Postfix mail system as a database of aliases to determine who gets mail for whom. You can read more about it in the man pages. man aliases -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 22:41 -0600, Bryen wrote:
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 22:27 -0600, listreader wrote:
Hello..
[openSuSE 10.3 - 32bit - Gnome]
A new user question: what exactly is the file "/etc/aliases.YaST2save" and what YaST2 or other module uses it?
As a side note, while I was trying to use YaST2 help to look for an answer to my question, I got the following rather unhelpful response:
msbmain:/home/rsil # yast2 mail setup help Unknown option for command 'setup': help Use 'yast2 mail setup help' for a complete list of available options.
Thanks and cheers.
Ralph
It is used by the Postfix mail system as a database of aliases to determine who gets mail for whom.
You can read more about it in the man pages. man aliases
-- ---Bryen---
Hello.. Thanks for the fast response. The man pages only discuss the normal "aliases" file. I find no man page for "aliases.YaST2save" which is a different file. Have I missed it? Thanks and cheers. Ralph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 23:27 -0600, listreader wrote:
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 22:41 -0600, Bryen wrote:
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 22:27 -0600, listreader wrote:
Hello..
[openSuSE 10.3 - 32bit - Gnome]
A new user question: what exactly is the file "/etc/aliases.YaST2save" and what YaST2 or other module uses it?
As a side note, while I was trying to use YaST2 help to look for an answer to my question, I got the following rather unhelpful response:
msbmain:/home/rsil # yast2 mail setup help Unknown option for command 'setup': help Use 'yast2 mail setup help' for a complete list of available options.
Thanks and cheers.
Ralph
It is used by the Postfix mail system as a database of aliases to determine who gets mail for whom.
You can read more about it in the man pages. man aliases
-- ---Bryen---
Hello..
Thanks for the fast response. The man pages only discuss the normal "aliases" file. I find no man page for "aliases.YaST2save" which is a different file. Have I missed it?
Thanks and cheers.
Ralph
Yast typically sets up its own set of files for certain modules rather than using the ones built in. Some are used as a backup reference, and others are used in place of existing configuration files. For example, when creating virtual hosts for your apache server, yast creates its own vhost configuration file in the same directory as /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/ If you are doing configurations directly through Yast, then no need to worry about that. If you are alternating between yast and command line, in some cases it could cause confusion and/or conflicts. Although most of the confusion is "human-based" as the application understands the differences between the two config files. -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
In message <1196833394.4461.10.camel@desktop.bryen.info>, Bryen
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 23:27 -0600, listreader wrote:
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 22:41 -0600, Bryen wrote:
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 22:27 -0600, listreader wrote:
Hello..
[openSuSE 10.3 - 32bit - Gnome]
A new user question: what exactly is the file "/etc/aliases.YaST2save" and what YaST2 or other module uses it?
As a side note, while I was trying to use YaST2 help to look for an answer to my question, I got the following rather unhelpful response:
msbmain:/home/rsil # yast2 mail setup help Unknown option for command 'setup': help Use 'yast2 mail setup help' for a complete list of available options.
Thanks and cheers.
Ralph
It is used by the Postfix mail system as a database of aliases to determine who gets mail for whom.
You can read more about it in the man pages. man aliases
-- ---Bryen---
Hello..
Thanks for the fast response. The man pages only discuss the normal "aliases" file. I find no man page for "aliases.YaST2save" which is a different file. Have I missed it?
Thanks and cheers.
Ralph
Yast typically sets up its own set of files for certain modules rather than using the ones built in. Some are used as a backup reference, and others are used in place of existing configuration files. For example, when creating virtual hosts for your apache server, yast creates its own vhost configuration file in the same directory as /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/
If you are doing configurations directly through Yast, then no need to worry about that. If you are alternating between yast and command line, in some cases it could cause confusion and/or conflicts. Although most of the confusion is "human-based" as the application understands the differences between the two config files.
My understanding was that yast did not actually do anything with the "aliases.YaST2save" file, it just saves it in case it breaks something during an update, so that you can manually look in it to see what you had before the update. I could, of course, be wrong. -- Roger Hayter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-12-05 at 12:26 -0000, Roger Hayter wrote:
My understanding was that yast did not actually do anything with the "aliases.YaST2save" file, it just saves it in case it breaks something during an update, so that you can manually look in it to see what you had before the update. I could, of course, be wrong.
No, you are correct. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVqQKtTMYHG2NR9URAn7BAJ9Bs5Y4PuZXZFlHGYZ4q3uYiOl5cQCfapvF Bj7ZrGktxklurG77JS96rag= =8OdI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, Roger Hayter wrote:- <snip>
My understanding was that yast did not actually do anything with the "aliases.YaST2save" file, it just saves it in case it breaks something during an update, so that you can manually look in it to see what you had before the update. I could, of course, be wrong.
AFAIK, if YaST2 is used to generate a file, in this case /etc/aliases and the original file has been modified by the user, YaST2 saves the file with the changes it's made to a file with the .YaST2save extension. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-P2 @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~15Mkeys | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit | openSUSE 10.3 32bit SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit | RISC OS 3.11 | RISC OS 3.6 | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 10.3 PPC -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 12/05/2007 09:14 PM, David Bolt wrote:
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, Roger Hayter wrote:-
<snip>
My understanding was that yast did not actually do anything with the "aliases.YaST2save" file, it just saves it in case it breaks something during an update, so that you can manually look in it to see what you had before the update. I could, of course, be wrong.
AFAIK, if YaST2 is used to generate a file, in this case /etc/aliases and the original file has been modified by the user, YaST2 saves the file with the changes it's made to a file with the .YaST2save extension.
I believe it is similar to rpmsave files. It is the original file saved with the YaST2save (meaning a backup created by YaST2). Yast does modify the original config file. SuSEconfig similarly does this as well. I do think you are correct though that it only does this when you have edited the file independently of Yast. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.3 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:-
On 12/05/2007 09:14 PM, David Bolt wrote:
AFAIK, if YaST2 is used to generate a file, in this case /etc/aliases and the original file has been modified by the user, YaST2 saves the file with the changes it's made to a file with the .YaST2save extension.
I believe it is similar to rpmsave files. It is the original file saved with the YaST2save (meaning a backup created by YaST2). Yast does modify the original config file. SuSEconfig similarly does this as well. I do think you are correct though that it only does this when you have edited the file independently of Yast.
A couple of quick tests editing files manually and using YaST2 shows that the YaST2save files are backups of the original. I had it mixed up with the files saved with the .SuSEconfig extension[0]. Those are the files that are saved instead of overwriting any user changes. [0] As discovered when creating my own sendmail.cf files and not telling YaST2/SuSEconfig to not bother creating a copy as well. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-P2 @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~15Mkeys | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit | openSUSE 10.3 32bit SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit | RISC OS 3.11 | RISC OS 3.6 | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 10.3 PPC -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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