I just acquired a new Pentium 4 machine without any operating system and installed SuSE Linux 9.3 Pro via booting from DVD. To my considerable surprise I saw that the Apache2 webserver it decided to install was the 64bit version. Does this mean I have 64-bit Linux? How would I find out? If it is the 64-bit version, in the interests of greatest stability as a DBMS server and web server should I be re-installing a 32-bit version. I have no investment in configuration. Thanks Mike
On Monday 05 September 2005 02:27, Mike Dewhirst wrote:
I just acquired a new Pentium 4 machine without any operating system and installed SuSE Linux 9.3 Pro via booting from DVD. To my considerable surprise I saw that the Apache2 webserver it decided to install was the 64bit version.
Does this mean I have 64-bit Linux?
Yes
How would I find out?
Well, looking at what kernel you have installed perhaps? rpm -qi kernel-default or rpm -qi kernel-smp depending on if you have hyper threading enabled or not. The bottom line will say x86_64 if you have the 64 bit stuff. But in general, if you have one 64 bit package from the installation, it will be the whole deal. The 64 bit distro contains 32 bit packages, but the 32 bit distro contains no 64 bit packages.
If it is the 64-bit version, in the interests of greatest stability as a DBMS server and web server should I be re-installing a 32-bit version. I have no investment in configuration.
I don't see why. The 64 bit stuff has been around a while, and is considered stable. If you have a third party database that doesn't play well with the 64 bit then perhaps, but the included things work well, and Oracle - although it is 32 bit itself - runs nicely in a 64 bit SUSE (although for Oracle you should probably be looking at SLES instead of 9.3)
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Monday 05 September 2005 02:27, Mike Dewhirst wrote:
I just acquired a new Pentium 4 machine without any operating system and installed SuSE Linux 9.3 Pro via booting from DVD. To my considerable surprise I saw that the Apache2 webserver it decided to install was the 64bit version.
Does this mean I have 64-bit Linux?
Yes
OK it is x86_64 - thanks Anders. I'll ask the Firebird list if I should worry. Why would SLES be better than 9.3 for Oracle? For Firebird too? Stability maybe? I've heard that SuSE Pro is a bit leading edge. My only concerns about stability at the moment are that I don't want development held up unnecessarily. If it would be better to use SLES then I'll do that and specify it in production. Mike
How would I find out?
Well, looking at what kernel you have installed perhaps?
rpm -qi kernel-default
or
rpm -qi kernel-smp
depending on if you have hyper threading enabled or not. The bottom line will say x86_64 if you have the 64 bit stuff. But in general, if you have one 64 bit package from the installation, it will be the whole deal. The 64 bit distro contains 32 bit packages, but the 32 bit distro contains no 64 bit packages.
If it is the 64-bit version, in the interests of greatest stability as a DBMS server and web server should I be re-installing a 32-bit version. I have no investment in configuration.
I don't see why. The 64 bit stuff has been around a while, and is considered stable. If you have a third party database that doesn't play well with the 64 bit then perhaps, but the included things work well, and Oracle - although it is 32 bit itself - runs nicely in a 64 bit SUSE (although for Oracle you should probably be looking at SLES instead of 9.3)
On Monday 05 September 2005 03:30, Mike Dewhirst wrote:
Why would SLES be better than 9.3 for Oracle? For Firebird too?
Stability maybe? I've heard that SuSE Pro is a bit leading edge.
Partly about stability and longevity (SLES is maintained for seven years, 9.3 only for two), and partly about certifications. Oracle support won't touch you unless you're running on a platform they've certified. I have no idea how the firebird people treat that
On Monday 05 September 2005 03:35, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Monday 05 September 2005 03:30, Mike Dewhirst wrote:
Why would SLES be better than 9.3 for Oracle? For Firebird too?
Stability maybe? I've heard that SuSE Pro is a bit leading edge.
Partly about stability and longevity (SLES is maintained for seven years, 9.3 only for two), and partly about certifications. Oracle support won't touch you unless you're running on a platform they've certified. I have no idea how the firebird people treat that
I forgot to mention, it's impossible to buy a support contract from SUSE/Novell for 9.3. So if you're looking at a serious production environment where you want to have a serious support agreement, 9.3 wouldn't be a good choice for that reason either
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Monday 05 September 2005 03:30, Mike Dewhirst wrote:
Why would SLES be better than 9.3 for Oracle? For Firebird too?
Stability maybe? I've heard that SuSE Pro is a bit leading edge.
Partly about stability and longevity (SLES is maintained for seven years, 9.3 only for two), and partly about certifications. Oracle support won't touch you unless you're running on a platform they've certified. I have no idea how the firebird people treat that
Thanks again - I'll ask Cheers Mike
Mike Dewhirst wrote:
I just acquired a new Pentium 4 machine without any operating system and installed SuSE Linux 9.3 Pro via booting from DVD. To my considerable surprise I saw that the Apache2 webserver it decided to install was the 64bit version.
Does this mean I have 64-bit Linux?
How would I find out?
If it is the 64-bit version, in the interests of greatest stability as a DBMS server and web server should I be re-installing a 32-bit version. I have no investment in configuration.
The DVD contains both 32 & 64 bit versions. Why should you have to use a 32 bit verson?
Monday 05 Sep 2005 05:57 samaye Mike Dewhirst alekhiit:
I just acquired a new Pentium 4 machine without any operating system and installed SuSE Linux 9.3 Pro via booting from DVD. To my considerable surprise I saw that the Apache2 webserver it decided to install was the 64bit version.
Does this mean I have 64-bit Linux?
Mike, what exact Pentium 4 is that? I have a Pentium 4 530 and I'm running 32-bit packages only. I just ran rpm -qi kernel-smp and got: Distribution: SuSE Linux 9.3 (i586) See http://intel.com/products/processor_number/index.htm for a list of their processor numbers. -- (o- Penguin #395953 lives at http://samvit.org //\ subsisting on ancient Indian wisdom ... V_/_ and modern computing efficiency! :)
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