[opensuse] Java plugin has disappeared from Firefox v4.01
Yesterday I discovered that I am unable to operate the Java applet on my website; trying to find why this is so, I found that about:plugins displays no Java plugins. This is a 64bit system, so the plugin, before it vanished quietly, was icedtea. openSuSE is v11.3. A search for "icedtea" in YaST shows me that icedtea-web v1.1-0.2.1 is installed. Not installed is the file java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin v1.6.0.0_b20.1.9.7-1.2.1. I guessed that I need to icedtea-web with the java plugin, but was told that I would have to remove icedtea-web. I see on the web that the icedtea-web package is said to already contain the java plugin, so now I am confused. Advice? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I had this problem last week, with the symptoms you describe. After one of the recent updates the java alternatives file got corrupted in 11.3, causing symptoms identical to yours. The solution is here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704018 If the fix works for you, you may want to re-open the bug, since then it seems to be not an odd problem with my machine, but something more general. Myrosia On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> wrote:
Yesterday I discovered that I am unable to operate the Java applet on my website; trying to find why this is so, I found that about:plugins displays no Java plugins. This is a 64bit system, so the plugin, before it vanished quietly, was icedtea. openSuSE is v11.3.
A search for "icedtea" in YaST shows me that icedtea-web v1.1-0.2.1 is installed.
Not installed is the file java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin v1.6.0.0_b20.1.9.7-1.2.1.
I guessed that I need to icedtea-web with the java plugin, but was told that I would have to remove icedtea-web. I see on the web that the icedtea-web package is said to already contain the java plugin, so now I am confused.
Advice?
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel
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I had this problem last week, with the symptoms you describe. After one of the recent updates the java alternatives file got corrupted in 11.3, causing symptoms identical to yours. The solution is here:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704018
If the fix works for you, you may want to re-open the bug, since then it seems to be not an odd problem with my machine, but something more general.
Myrosia I'm very glad for your pointer to the bug report, and even more so for
On 07/11/2011 08:21 PM, Myrosia Dzikovska wrote: the comment of another reader that the rpm should be reinstalled while ignoring dependencies. Дякую вам! But I'm not at all sure that my problem is identical with yours in the bug report. The remote applet is based on a Java application (GenealogyJ) that I have on my local desktop. The same JRE that won't run the remote applet through icedtea-web has no trouble running the local applicatiation. I should mention an additional observation: I reinstalled icedtea-web (through YaST). That restored the display of the Java plugin in about:plugins, but did not solve the failure of the remote applet. FWIW, the links in the photo album of your website don't work; the target files are said not to be present on the server. On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> wrote:
Yesterday I discovered that I am unable to operate the Java applet on my website; trying to find why this is so, I found that about:plugins displays no Java plugins. This is a 64bit system, so the plugin, before it vanished quietly, was icedtea. openSuSE is v11.3.
A search for "icedtea" in YaST shows me that icedtea-web v1.1-0.2.1 is installed.
Not installed is the file java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin v1.6.0.0_b20.1.9.7-1.2.1.
I guessed that I need to icedtea-web with the java plugin, but was told that I would have to remove icedtea-web. I see on the web that the icedtea-web package is said to already contain the java plugin, so now I am confused.
Advice?
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel
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I'm very glad for your pointer to the bug report, and even more so for the comment of another reader that the rpm should be reinstalled while ignoring dependencies. Дякую вам!
But I'm not at all sure that my problem is identical with yours in the bug report. The remote applet is based on a Java application (GenealogyJ) that I have on my local desktop. The same JRE that won't run the remote applet through icedtea-web has no trouble running the local applicatiation.
I should mention an additional observation: I reinstalled icedtea-web (through YaST). That restored the display of the Java plugin in about:plugins, but did not solve the failure of the remote applet.
Right, there seems to be a difference in symptoms there. One thing I should mention, though: as I was debugging the issues on my computer, I went through different states of "brokenness" with the java setup, with different things working or not working. The only thing that really worked was to remove all java packages (java-1_6_0-sun, java-1_6_0-openjdk and so on), and plugins, and then re-install from scratch. You may want to try that, too. Myrosia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Myrosia Dzikovska wrote:
I had this problem last week, with the symptoms you describe. After one of the recent updates the java alternatives file got corrupted in 11.3, causing symptoms identical to yours. The solution is here:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704018
If the fix works for you, you may want to re-open the bug, since then it seems to be not an odd problem with my machine, but something more general.
Thank you so kindly for this pointer. I had removed the iced tea openjdk and plugin, replacing them with the Sun versions. While the browser picked up the plugin OK, typing java -version at the command line produced the cnf java 'command not found' thing. When I tried to reconfig the alternatives I got the 'file is corrupt' error, just as reported above. I simply deleted the java and javaplugin files from /var/lib/rpm/alternatives and did an update in Yast of Sun java and plugin and it's fixed. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. [snip] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 11/07/11 11:27, Stan Goodman wrote:
Yesterday I discovered that I am unable to operate the Java applet on my website; trying to find why this is so, I found that about:plugins displays no Java plugins. This is a 64bit system, so the plugin, before it vanished quietly, was icedtea. openSuSE is v11.3.
A search for "icedtea" in YaST shows me that icedtea-web v1.1-0.2.1 is installed.
Not installed is the file java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin v1.6.0.0_b20.1.9.7-1.2.1.
I guessed that I need to icedtea-web with the java plugin, but was told that I would have to remove icedtea-web. I see on the web that the icedtea-web package is said to already contain the java plugin, so now I am confused.
Advice?
According to the rpm, icedtea-web obsoletes java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin, so it is safe to ignore the latter package. Are you able to run the test applets on java.com? Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 12 July 2011 0016:05 Tejas Guruswamy Tejas Guruswamy <tejas.guruswamy@opensuse.org> wrote:
On 11/07/11 11:27, Stan Goodman wrote:
Yesterday I discovered that I am unable to operate the Java applet on my website; trying to find why this is so, I found that about:plugins displays no Java plugins. This is a 64bit system, so the plugin, before it vanished quietly, was icedtea. openSuSE is v11.3.
A search for "icedtea" in YaST shows me that icedtea-web v1.1-0.2.1 is installed.
Not installed is the file java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin v1.6.0.0_b20.1.9.7-1.2.1.
I guessed that I need to icedtea-web with the java plugin, but was told that I would have to remove icedtea-web. I see on the web that the icedtea-web package is said to already contain the java plugin, so now I am confused.
Advice?
According to the rpm, icedtea-web obsoletes java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin, so it is safe to ignore the latter package.
Are you able to run the test applets on java.com?
After I read your message last night (in the wee hours), I visited java.com, but did not find the test applets you mention (I still do not find them). I did run the "Do I have Java" check, however, and I think it tells us what we want to know. The result of the check was the following error message: ***** icedteanp plugin error: Failed to run : /usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk//jre/bin/java For more detain rerun "firefox-g" in a terminal window ***** The indicated file is indeed present. Running firefox -g does nothing, only returns to the prompt. This morning that computer experienced two failures: 1) Notified me during the boot process that the size of RAM had changed from 2GB to 1GB; cleaning the memory cards cleared that, and I was able to opoerate for a while until shutting down; 2) upon subsequent start up, failed to recognize the HD. Tomorrow I'll find out if Ihave a dead HD or a dead MB. I have checked the remote applet using the laptop machine on which I am writing this. The applet works. Visiting java.com with the laptop and running the same check, of course, does not fail, but tells me the jvm version. Running firefox -g, however, does nothing, just as in the case of the desktop machine, so I wonder if it is capable of doing anything else.
Regards, Tejas
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On Tuesday 12 July 2011 2157:18 Stan Goodman Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 12 July 2011 0016:05 Tejas Guruswamy Tejas Guruswamy
<tejas.guruswamy@opensuse.org> wrote:
On 11/07/11 11:27, Stan Goodman wrote:
Yesterday I discovered that I am unable to operate the Java applet on my website; trying to find why this is so, I found that about:plugins displays no Java plugins. This is a 64bit system, so the plugin, before it vanished quietly, was icedtea. openSuSE is v11.3.
A search for "icedtea" in YaST shows me that icedtea-web v1.1-0.2.1 is installed.
Not installed is the file java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin v1.6.0.0_b20.1.9.7-1.2.1.
I guessed that I need to icedtea-web with the java plugin, but was told that I would have to remove icedtea-web. I see on the web that the icedtea-web package is said to already contain the java plugin, so now I am confused.
Advice?
According to the rpm, icedtea-web obsoletes java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin, so it is safe to ignore the latter package.
Are you able to run the test applets on java.com?
After I read your message last night (in the wee hours), I visited java.com, but did not find the test applets you mention (I still do not find them). I did run the "Do I have Java" check, however, and I think it tells us what we want to know. The result of the check was the following error message:
***** icedteanp plugin error: Failed to run : /usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk//jre/bin/java For more detain rerun "firefox-g" in a terminal window *****
The indicated file is indeed present. Running firefox -g does nothing, only returns to the prompt.
This morning that computer experienced two failures: 1) Notified me during the boot process that the size of RAM had changed from 2GB to 1GB; cleaning the memory cards cleared that, and I was able to opoerate for a while until shutting down; 2) upon subsequent start up, failed to recognize the HD. Tomorrow I'll find out if Ihave a dead HD or a dead MB.
It turns out that the problem was a manifestation of the death pangs of the hard disk, so that nothing short of replacing the antique (the BIOS is dated 2002) would have solved it, and I have a new Intel i5 CPU on a new board. Many thanks to those who offered their hellllp.
I have checked the remote applet using the laptop machine on which I am writing this. The applet works. Visiting java.com with the laptop and running the same check, of course, does not fail, but tells me the jvm version. Running firefox -g, however, does nothing, just as in the case of the desktop machine, so I wonder if it is capable of doing anything else.
Regards, Tejas
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 11/07/11 11:27, Stan Goodman wrote:
Yesterday I discovered that I am unable to operate the Java applet on my website; trying to find why this is so, I found that about:plugins displays no Java plugins. This is a 64bit system, so the plugin, before it vanished quietly, was icedtea. openSuSE is v11.3.
A search for "icedtea" in YaST shows me that icedtea-web v1.1-0.2.1 is installed.
Not installed is the file java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin v1.6.0.0_b20.1.9.7-1.2.1.
I guessed that I need to icedtea-web with the java plugin, but was told that I would have to remove icedtea-web. I see on the web that the icedtea-web package is said to already contain the java plugin, so now I am confused.
I had a similar problem. I removed the icedtea stuff and went back to openjdk-plugin which solved the problem but I had to slightly downgrade java for that, too. Seems to work for me now but probably not the best overall solution. The bugzilla solution mentioned in other emails might be better but I required a quick fix. Cheers, Th. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
IcedTea is not Java, it's some half-baked semi-working "implementation of Java" What you need is java-sun-plugin package, it will have your Java working properly. I recommend you mark taboo anything with "IcedTea" or "OpenJDK" http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/openSUSE:11.4:NonFree/standard/java-1_6_0-sun-plugin.ymp?base=openSUSE%3A11.4&query=sun-plugin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 13 July 2011 0742:35 Andrew Joakimsen Andrew Joakimsen <joakimsen@gmail.com> wrote:
IcedTea is not Java, it's some half-baked semi-working "implementation of Java"
What you need is java-sun-plugin package, it will have your Java working properly.
I recommend you mark taboo anything with "IcedTea" or "OpenJDK"
As I understand it, the reason for the existence of icedtea is that Sun did not take the trouble to release a 64bit version of the v1.6 JVM.
http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/openSUSE:11.4:NonFree/standard/java- 1_6_0-sun-plugin.ymp?base=openSUSE%3A11.4&query=sun-plugin
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Stan Goodman [13.07.2011 22:41]:
On Wednesday 13 July 2011 0742:35 Andrew Joakimsen Andrew Joakimsen <joakimsen@gmail.com> wrote:
IcedTea is not Java, it's some half-baked semi-working "implementation of Java"
What you need is java-sun-plugin package, it will have your Java working properly.
I recommend you mark taboo anything with "IcedTea" or "OpenJDK"
As I understand it, the reason for the existence of icedtea is that Sun did not take the trouble to release a 64bit version of the v1.6 JVM.
IIRC it was the browser plugin... In the meantime, it does exist, as well as the JDK (says zypper se -s java | grep sun | grep x86_64 | sort) But I still see no use in using OpenIced ;-) - especially since the last upgrade, which broke /var/lib/rpm/alternatives/java (in 11.4), and the bug should've been fixed for months (<https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669716>, new in <https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704018>, not even marked as duplicate). BTW, after swapping java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin and icedtea-web, "update-alternatives --config javaplugin" still worked, while "update-alternatives --config java" was broken because of the mentioned bug. Regards, Werner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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