Re: [opensuse] Has dual-boot changed?
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
On 2010/09/12 22:00 (GMT-0400) Doug composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
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I recently tried to find out how to use the XP booter to multi-boot it and one or more Linux systems. I was unsuccessful, altho I seem to remember reading somewhere that it is possible...
One link to how was in the post you here replied to - in the part you excised, (titled "Installing Windows® After Something Else").
The other thing I have seen repeatedly over time is that you should always install Windows first. I have never seen instructions for doing it the other way, as the correspondent would like to do.
One link to how was in the post you here replied to - in the part you excised (titled "Installing Windows® After Something Else"). -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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Hi, to dual or multiboot windows with linux, I use this procedure. Windows should be installed on the first primary partition of the harddrive, assuming you have only one hard drive.
Then I install Suse in an extended partition. An extended partition is a primary partition that is authorized to be subdivided. It will be subdivided into logical partions, of which I think 64 is the maximum number at the moment. When you use the Suse auto install, it will auto designate your extended partition and auto subdivide it into three logical partitions. These partitions are named swap, root, and home. Swap is normally double the size of your installed ram. 20 gb is a good size for root, and home can be what is left over, but 20gb is also a good min size.
I personally use G parted to setup my partitions before installing openSUSE, using the setup above. I do this because I usually multiboot win with two or more linux. You can get here if you desire:
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
When installing openSuse, I install the bootloader (grub) so that it resides in the master boot record. I think that the default installation now is to boot from an extended partition, so you can change this to boot from MBR in the bootloader dialogue. This is presented in the the final check screen before installation, showing the bootloader as one of the of items that you are approving. Click on bootloader, find the tab for installation details, and set it to boot from MBR only.
Once you install opensuse, the first screen that comes up on boot is the grub screen that allows you to select which operating system that you want to run. It usually has Windows 1 and below it Windows 2. Windows 2 is usually the Windows operating system, and windows 1 is usually the windows restoration partition. I boot the opensuse system, and then once everything is up and running I open a konsole terminal.
As root in terminal, I type in #kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst
if kwrite doesn't work, type instead gedit, or kate, abiword, or your other favorite text editor.
Find in the text
title Windows 1 rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1
and remove all of that entry.
Then find in the text
title Windows 2 rootnoverify (hd0,1) chainloader +1
and edit it to read
title Windows XP rootnoverify (hd0,1) chainloader +1
Then click save, and reboot to make sure of your entries in the text. Grub will then be able to boot opensuse directly, and boot the windows bootloader to boot windows.
If you don't want to edit text directly, you can do this via yast>system>bootloader, but I can't remember how to tell you exactly. It is pretty easy anyways, and is almost self explanatory if you know how to edit the text directly.
I hope I have understood correctly what you are asking, and I hope this helps you get it working.
Mark
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On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
On 2010/09/12 22:00 (GMT-0400) Doug composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
/snip/
I recently tried to find out how to use the XP booter to multi-boot it and one or more Linux systems. I was unsuccessful, altho I seem to remember reading somewhere that it is possible...
One link to how was in the post you here replied to - in the part you excised, (titled "Installing Windows® After Something Else").
The other thing I have seen repeatedly over time is that you should always install Windows first. I have never seen instructions for doing it the other way, as the correspondent would like to do.
One link to how was in the post you here replied to - in the part you excised (titled "Installing Windows® After Something Else"). -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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Hi, to dual or multiboot windows with linux, I use this procedure. Windows should be installed on the first primary partition of the harddrive, assuming you have only one hard drive.
Then I install Suse in an extended partition. An extended partition is a primary partition that is authorized to be subdivided. It will be subdivided into logical partions, of which I think 64 is the maximum number at the moment. When you use the Suse auto install, it will auto designate your extended partition and auto subdivide it into three logical partitions. These partitions are named swap, root, and home. Swap is normally double the size of your installed ram. 20 gb is a good size for root, and home can be what is left over, but 20gb is also a good min size.
I personally use G parted to setup my partitions before installing openSUSE, using the setup above. I do this because I usually multiboot win with two or more linux. You can get here if you desire:
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
When installing openSuse, I install the bootloader (grub) so that it resides in the master boot record. I think that the default installation now is to boot from an extended partition, so you can change this to boot from MBR in the bootloader dialogue. This is presented in the the final check screen before installation, showing the bootloader as one of the of items that you are approving. Click on bootloader, find the tab for installation details, and set it to boot from MBR only.
Once you install opensuse, the first screen that comes up on boot is the grub screen that allows you to select which operating system that you want to run. It usually has Windows 1 and below it Windows 2. Windows 2 is usually the Windows operating system, and windows 1 is usually the windows restoration partition. I boot the opensuse system, and then once everything is up and running I open a konsole terminal.
As root in terminal, I type in #kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst
if kwrite doesn't work, type instead gedit, or kate, abiword, or your other favorite text editor.
Find in the text
title Windows 1 rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1
and remove all of that entry.
Then find in the text
title Windows 2 rootnoverify (hd0,1) chainloader +1
and edit it to read
title Windows XP rootnoverify (hd0,1) chainloader +1
Then click save, and reboot to make sure of your entries in the text. Grub will then be able to boot opensuse directly, and boot the windows bootloader to boot windows.
If you don't want to edit text directly, you can do this via yast>system>bootloader, but I can't remember how to tell you exactly. It is pretty easy anyways, and is almost self explanatory if you know how to edit the text directly.
I hope I have understood correctly what you are asking, and I hope this helps you get it working.
Mark
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Felix, I'm working on the references you gave me; thanks. On 9/13/2010 2:02 AM, Mark Misulich wrote:
Hi, to dual or multiboot windows with linux, I use this procedure. Windows should be installed on the first primary partition of the harddrive, assuming you have only one hard drive.
Well, as I said, I couldn't find my xp install disks at first, so I installed suse so I'd have something. Now suse / is on partition 1 and xp is on partition 2. After that comes the extended partition containing space for 4 more linux-style distributions (quantian and qnx at least; maybe Hard Hat linux to see what it'll do).
... I personally use G parted to setup my partitions before installing openSUSE, using the setup above. I do this because I usually multiboot win with two or more linux. You can get here if you desire:
In fact, I used gparted on both my laptop and my wife's new computer. And it appears to have done the same to both: ext2ifs.exe reports that the linux partitions are unformatted, and ntfs-3g on my laptop can't write to the Windows partition. I tried with another utility (whose name I can't remember atm), and in Windows command line mode it reported bad "magic" in both partitions. I got no information out of ntfs-3g at all except that it would read the xp partition. So I may have to repartition and reinstall everything before it's over; but I still want to try this at least to learn. On both computers the OS's work fine within their own partitions.
If you don't want to edit text directly, you can do this via yast>system>bootloader, but I can't remember how to tell you exactly. It is pretty easy anyways, and is almost self explanatory if you know how to edit the text directly.
Although I prefer yast when possible, I have no problem with text when I have to. I like the gui's help reminding me of what's available and guiding me in good directions (when it's well programmed, that is). jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 8:57 PM, John Perry <j.e.perry-t@cox.net> wrote:
Felix, I'm working on the references you gave me; thanks.
On 9/13/2010 2:02 AM, Mark Misulich wrote:
Hi, to dual or multiboot windows with linux, I use this procedure. Windows should be installed on the first primary partition of the harddrive, assuming you have only one hard drive.
Well, as I said, I couldn't find my xp install disks at first, so I installed suse so I'd have something. Now suse / is on partition 1 and xp is on partition 2. After that comes the extended partition containing space for 4 more linux-style distributions (quantian and qnx at least; maybe Hard Hat linux to see what it'll do).
It doesn't matter which operating system you installed first, it matters where you put them. Windows wants to be on the first primary partition. Something doesn't sound right about your partitioning scheme. Is your Suse root installed on one primary partition, with home and swap on the other primary partions? You can only have four primary partitions, one of which may be designated as an extended partition. If you have windows on one partition, one empty extended partition, you have two partitions left. If suse is on one of them, you are short one partition to make it work. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2010/09/15 22:22 (GMT-0400) Mark Misulich composed:
Windows wants to be on the first primary partition.
All Windows needs is _A_ primary on the first HD, which if not "active" at start of installation or repair it will make "active" during installation or repair. It's quite common for hardware manufacturers to put their system restores on the first partition, necessitating the Windows C: be on some other primary. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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