New 10.1 x86_64 install has NO usb connectivity
After a fatal ten-year-old motherboard problem, I finally replaced my box with an athlon dual core x86_64 4200, GAK8N Ultra-SLI, 2 SATA drives, a lota memory and a large power supply. I am in heaven! But, I cannot access any usb device. Note: I had to unplug all usb devices during install as a stall would ensue when the pre-install finished detecting hardware and was probing for usb devices. With the usb devices removed the install was a piece of cake. Reattached the usb devices prior to the software update with not problem, but no access either. Point: Kubunto 6.06 live boots fine and has usb access. wahoo:/home/pat # l /proc/bus/usb/ total 0 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 2006-05-28 18:52 ./ dr-xr-xr-x 5 root root 0 2006-05-28 11:57 ../ wahoo:/home/pat # modprobe -l |grep -i usb /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/sound/usb/snd-usb-lib.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/sound/usb/snd-usb-audio.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/sound/usb/usx2y/snd-usb-usx2y.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/usb-storage.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/whiteheat.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/visor.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/usbserial.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/safe_serial.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/pl2303.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/option.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/omninet.ko 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/lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-digitv.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-dibusb-mc.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-dibusb-mb.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-dibusb-common.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-a800.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-cxusb.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/b2c2/b2c2-flexcop-usb.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/isdn/hisax/hfc_usb.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/char/watchdog/pcwd_usb.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/hci_usb.ko /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-4-smp/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/bfusb.ko I have not compared modprobe with the kubunto live system. What am I missing? thanks, -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
Hi Patrick, On Sunday 28 May 2006 19:03, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
After a fatal ten-year-old motherboard problem, I finally replaced my box with an athlon dual core x86_64 4200, GAK8N Ultra-SLI, 2 SATA drives, a lota memory and a large power supply. I am in heaven!
drool! ;-)
But, I cannot access any usb device. Note: I had to unplug all usb devices during install as a stall would ensue when the pre-install finished detecting hardware and was probing for usb devices. With the usb devices removed the install was a piece of cake. Reattached the usb devices prior to the software update with not problem, but no access either.
I'd say the usb controller is not being properly detected... possibly because the revision is too new that the chip isn't being recognized.
Point: Kubunto 6.06 live boots fine and has usb access.
If you switch to a console (or open a shell) and 'lsmod | grep usb' you should be able to determine which modules are being loaded (and presumably are working.) Hopefully, the same modules are available with 10.1 regards, Carl
On Sunday 28 May 2006 22:39, Carl Hartung wrote:
Point: Kubunto 6.06 live boots fine and has usb access.
If you switch to a console (or open a shell) and 'lsmod | grep usb' you should be able to determine which modules are being loaded (and presumably are working.) Hopefully, the same modules are available with 10.1
Addendum: Have you seen this thread, Patrick?: http://www.linuxquestions.org/reviews/showproduct.php/product/645 Apparently your board's NVidia nForce4 SLI chipset *is* supported 'out of the box' by 10.1. Carl
* Carl Hartung
On Sunday 28 May 2006 22:39, Carl Hartung wrote:
If you switch to a console (or open a shell) and 'lsmod | grep usb' you should be able to determine which modules are being loaded (and presumably are working.) Hopefully, the same modules are available with 10.1
appears that usbls, sub_storage and scsi_mod are not being loaded. How do I force them to load on boot?
Addendum:
Have you seen this thread, Patrick?:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/reviews/showproduct.php/product/645
Apparently your board's NVidia nForce4 SLI chipset *is* supported 'out of the box' by 10.1.
No, but I already knew that the board was "supported". I built with the knowledge from a small shop dealer who also does linux sys admin. :^) btw: lost grub and the first ide harddrive went flakey. Spent two days getting grub back :^(. "Linux is a LEARNING experience" thanks, -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 08:09, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
appears that usbls, sub_storage and scsi_mod are not being loaded. How do I force them to load on boot?
Hi Patrick, I don't know if every module under SUSE has the same name under ubuntu or not. And since there are dependencies to consider, you might find the 'lineup' changes considerably after just one (manual) module substitution. IOW, the differences you're seeing could be due to module names (speculation) or the correct 'parent' module(s) aren't being loaded. If it were my system, I'd inventory every module related to usb being loaded by ubuntu and carefully compare that list to those being loaded by SUSE, including dependencies. Excerpt from 'lsmod' on my system: Module Size Used by ohci_hcd 20228 0 usbcore 112512 3 usbhid,ohci_hcd This shows that 'usbhid' and 'ohci_hcd' are using usbcore. You want to look for comparable dependencies under both SUSE and ubuntu, then adjust the modules in SUSE accordingly. I believe you can make these changes in SUSE using the YaST module "/etc/sysconfig Editor". System > Kernel > INITRD_MODULES
btw: lost grub and the first ide harddrive went flakey. Spent two days getting grub back :^(. "Linux is a LEARNING experience"
What a pain! And, yes, it is a learning experience. At least we all know it's a moving target, too, if that makes you feel any better. ;-) regards, Carl
* Carl Hartung
I believe you can make these changes in SUSE using the YaST module "/etc/sysconfig Editor". System > Kernel > INITRD_MODULES
knoppix 5.0 live x86_64 dvd: usblp 14720 0 usbhid 47584 0 usb_storage 70848 1 usbcore 111492 7 usblp,usbhid,usb_storage,ohci_hcd,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd kubunto 6.06 live cd: usblp 13056 0 usb_storage 74176 4 usbcore 129668 6 usblp,quickcam,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd scsi_mod 138984 4 sg,usb_storage,sd_mod,libata I added below to INITRD_MODULES usbcore usb_storage usblp scsi_mod result: usblp 31104 0 usb_storage 97728 0 usbcore 150312 5 usblp,usb_storage,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd scsi_mod 163888 6 st,sr_mod,usb_storage,sg,libata,sd_mod ide_core 165764 6 usb_storage,ide_cd,ide_floppy,pdc202xx_old,amd74xx,ide_disk I now have usb printer access, but usb cardreader and external hard drive do not show. Hot-plugging does not seem to make any impact either. /proc/bus/sub/ is still empty. Am very close to a complete reinstall (saving the new home to a remote partition and then mv'ing back pertinent files, of course). One other point: Booting the install dvd will not complete the usb search if I leave my usb Epson 2400 scanner connected. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
I now have usb printer access, but usb cardreader and external hard drive do not show. Hot-plugging does not seem to make any impact either. /proc/bus/sub/ is still empty.
I was bit by this one recently. Try starting pcscd service. I noticed on my machine (10.1 x86_64 upgraded from 9.3) that usbfs was not being mounted after booting. A search in /etc/init.d allowed me to find it apparently now needs this smart card daemon now to mount usbfs (I think it used to be done in boot.localfs). Try that anyway. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871
* Joe Morris (NTM)
I was bit by this one recently. Try starting pcscd service. I noticed on my machine (10.1 x86_64 upgraded from 9.3) that usbfs was not being mounted after booting. A search in /etc/init.d allowed me to find it apparently now needs this smart card daemon now to mount usbfs (I think it used to be done in boot.localfs). Try that anyway.
Thanks, but the man and config files indicate that pcscd is *not* for usb. It was not running and starting it did not appear to make a difference. thanks again, -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 16:33, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
I now have usb printer access, but usb cardreader and external hard drive do not show. Hot-plugging does not seem to make any impact either. /proc/bus/sub/ is still empty.
Hi Patrick, Did you notice this? Knoppix loads: ohci_hcd,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd Kubunto loads: ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd SUSE loads: ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd I wonder what would happen if you also added uhci_hcd to INITRD_MODULES? I suspect Joe's advice might be right on target since he's dealt with the same problem on comparable harware. But I thought I'd point this difference out in case it had missed your attention. Don't give up! regards, Carl
* Carl Hartung
Did you notice this?
Knoppix loads: ohci_hcd,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd Kubunto loads: ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd SUSE loads: ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd
No, but I do now.
I wonder what would happen if you also added uhci_hcd to INITRD_MODULES?
Unfortunately, nothing ...
I suspect Joe's advice might be right on target since he's dealt with the same problem on comparable harware. But I thought I'd point this difference out in case it had missed your attention.
I tried rcpcscd status was unused. Started it but made no difference. Man and config files indicate it is *not* for usb :^(
Don't give up!
Not yet, but reinstall is looking necessary. It still may be a missing kernel module, usblp got the printer recognized. Again, funny that the usb detection will *not* complete with the usb Epson 2400 scanner attached. I still do not understand why the usb modules were not present in the installed kernel ??? thanks, -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
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