Sorry, I should have made it plain that my default runlevel is 3. I can startx, I just can't stopx! <grin> Oh - the ReiserFS note was simply that it's a journaled file system and less prone to problems caused by improper shutdowns. Bill Sheehan Postmaster 617-373-7927 Magnus Hagebris amics.com> cc: Bill Sheehan , suse-linux-e@suse.com 04/17/02 11:34 Subject: Re: [SLE] Dell Inspiron 8200 Crashes on Exiting X PM Well, I do not know any more ways of killing the box ;-) Cntr-Alt-Backspace will not kill the X server.... ReiserFS is a journaling file system , basically it should be less sensitive to improper shutdowns. Those fsck are gone.... But I guess there is a slim chance of screwing up the system. It might be a good idea to set default runlevel to 3, instead of 5. Login on a console and just run startx. /etc/inittab: --------------------- # default runlevel id:3:initdefault: --------------------- But I would not be surprised if X windows still freezes on logout... I have dual boot and XP freezes once and a while when accessing the program menu. Not related though.... Cheers, Magnus neal mcdermott wrote:

Magnus Hagebris wrote:

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Once and a while I have the same problem with my Inspiron 8100 - ATI Radeon 7500(64Mb) and SuSE 7.3(XFree86 4.2.0-2). When shutting down X-windows the machine just freezes. I guess this happens like 25% of the time and I have no clue why.... But I do not have to remove the battery, just hold the power down button for a few seconds.

Let me know if you find a solution, that might work for me as well. When I have time I will upgrade to 4.2.0-64, but I am not sure that will fix the problem.

I did a quick search.... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/18434

Cheers, Magnus

Bill Sheehan wrote:

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I remember when Linux first came with XWindow support. It was a bear to set up - I fought and struggled and filled sheets of paper with modeline calculations. Finally, voila! A GUI!

There's nothing like new hardware to bring back those good ol' days of abject ignorance (as opposed to mostly ignorant nowadays). I've just received a new Dell Inspiron 8200 complete with a gorgeous screen and an NVidia GeForce 2 Go graphics card. It took a little playing around, recompiling the kernel without framebuffer support, and voila! A beautiful XFree86 screen. Only problem is, I can't quit. If I exit X, the laptop crashes hard - so hard the only way to restart it is to pull the battery. (Lucky thing I use ReiserFS!)

No errors appear in the logs, and I haven't found any answers in newsgroups. I'm running SuSE 7.3, XFree86 4.2 (downloaded the RPMs from SuSE), KDE 2.2.2 (also downloaded from SuSE), and the latest drivers from NVidia (1.0 2880). I've tried disabling APIC, but the problem is the same.

I've even tried running the laptop under WindowsXP, but I just can't handle having my computer turned into the Home Shopping Network. Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions of where to look?

Thanks!

Bill Sheehan Postmaster 617-373-7927

I get this too with my Dell Inspiron 3500, and it happens at other times too, sometimes at boot up, sometimes restarting after having used the windows partition. I have had to pull the battery too. While I do not have a solution either, I was curious if any of you Dell users know if we have any other recourse besides just holding the power key or pulling the battery. What is the best course of action to deal with a mega freeze up? Doesn't either of these actions have a possibility of messing up the file system? Also, Bill, was what you said about ReiserFS, was that indicating that ReiserFS is less susceptible to being messed up in this way?

Neal

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