[opensuse] Thumbleweed: Packages missing?
Hi! I changed to OpenSUSE Thumbleweed and expected having a normal distribution with all packages, beeing in the middle between OpenSUSE 11.4 and 12.1 But it looks like there are many packages missing, which are delivered normally by openSUSE 11.4: a) All the stuff for Open SUSE Build Servers (obs-utils & Co) is missing b) keepassx is missing I don't understand that. why do I have to organize keepassx by myself? It's part of 11.4 and I expect it its part of 12.1 too... Peer -- Heinlein Professional Linux Support GmbH Linux: Akademie - Support - Hosting http://www.heinlein-support.de Tel: 030 / 40 50 51 - 0 Fax: 030 / 40 50 51 - 19 Zwangsangaben lt. §35a GmbHG: HRB 93818 B / Amtsgericht Berlin-Charlottenburg, Geschäftsführer: Peer Heinlein -- Sitz: Berlin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday, November 07, 2011 07:22:44 Peer Heinlein wrote:
Hi Peer, Tumbleeweed is an additional repo on top of 11.4, so you need to have 11.4 installed as well. Tumbleweed only gets updates for some packages. So, add 11.4 back and everything should be fine again, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Andreas Jaeger [07.11.2011 10:45]:
Will this change sometimes? Will at some moment 12.1 be the base of tumbleweed? Since it is a rolling release system, I'd expect something like that... Cheers, Werner -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday, November 07, 2011 13:00:27 Werner Flamme wrote:
I expect that for 12.1 a separate tumbleweed repository will be created but I don't remember a discussion on this., Btw. tumbleweed discussion happens on the opensuse-factory mailing list, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.com> wrote:
During the 11.3 => 11.4 transition Greg KH just had all Tumbleweed users update to 11.4 Gold via the standard zypper dup online process, then he flushed out the Tumbleweed Repo and started adding post 11.4 packages. 11.3 became non-supported for Tumbleweed at that point. I assume Greg KH will do the same for the 12.1 release, so Tumbleweed users will need to adjust the repos when the time comes. Personally I upgraded my Tumbleweed install to 12.1-RC1 a week ago. I won't add re-enable the Tumbleweed repo until it has been flushed of 11.4 stuff and post 12.1 packages start appearing. If you're not watching the -factory list where these notices come out, I have no idea how you would be able to track tumbleweed at release time Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/7/2011 10:21 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
so Tumbleweed users will need to adjust the repos when the time comes.
Is this a little different than the concept of Rolling Releases from other distros? (Arch, Sabayon are full rolling releases). Changing repros for each new base release is exactly the thing I was looking to avoid by switching to tumbleweed. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:31 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
John, OBS has the concept of parent repos. That is if you build against the devel:languages:perl:openSUSE12.1 and you need a 12.1 package that is not in the perl repo to build with, it will be pulled from the parent repo. (ie. 12.1). zypper does not have a feature like that as far as I know. If it did, it would be straight forward for Tumbleweed to work as you want. Maybe you should bring this up on the factory list where Tumbleweed discussions happen. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday, November 07, 2011 07:22:44 Peer Heinlein wrote:
Hi Peer, Tumbleeweed is an additional repo on top of 11.4, so you need to have 11.4 installed as well. Tumbleweed only gets updates for some packages. So, add 11.4 back and everything should be fine again, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Andreas Jaeger [07.11.2011 10:45]:
Will this change sometimes? Will at some moment 12.1 be the base of tumbleweed? Since it is a rolling release system, I'd expect something like that... Cheers, Werner -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday, November 07, 2011 13:00:27 Werner Flamme wrote:
I expect that for 12.1 a separate tumbleweed repository will be created but I don't remember a discussion on this., Btw. tumbleweed discussion happens on the opensuse-factory mailing list, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.com> wrote:
During the 11.3 => 11.4 transition Greg KH just had all Tumbleweed users update to 11.4 Gold via the standard zypper dup online process, then he flushed out the Tumbleweed Repo and started adding post 11.4 packages. 11.3 became non-supported for Tumbleweed at that point. I assume Greg KH will do the same for the 12.1 release, so Tumbleweed users will need to adjust the repos when the time comes. Personally I upgraded my Tumbleweed install to 12.1-RC1 a week ago. I won't add re-enable the Tumbleweed repo until it has been flushed of 11.4 stuff and post 12.1 packages start appearing. If you're not watching the -factory list where these notices come out, I have no idea how you would be able to track tumbleweed at release time Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/7/2011 10:21 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
so Tumbleweed users will need to adjust the repos when the time comes.
Is this a little different than the concept of Rolling Releases from other distros? (Arch, Sabayon are full rolling releases). Changing repros for each new base release is exactly the thing I was looking to avoid by switching to tumbleweed. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:31 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
John, OBS has the concept of parent repos. That is if you build against the devel:languages:perl:openSUSE12.1 and you need a 12.1 package that is not in the perl repo to build with, it will be pulled from the parent repo. (ie. 12.1). zypper does not have a feature like that as far as I know. If it did, it would be straight forward for Tumbleweed to work as you want. Maybe you should bring this up on the factory list where Tumbleweed discussions happen. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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