Hi I have just installed 8.1 instead of upgrading from 8 and I find my cdrom not supported...This is from /var/log/messages Dec 6 14:57:36 linux kernel: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Dec 6 14:57:36 linux kernel: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Dec 6 14:57:36 linux kernel: sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Dec 6 14:57:36 linux kernel: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 Dec 6 14:57:36 linux kernel: sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 0x/48x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Dec 6 14:57:44 linux kernel: cdrom: open failed. Dec 6 14:57:46 linux kernel: cdrom: open failed. Dec 6 14:57:46 linux kernel: ide-scsi: hdd: unsupported command in request queue (0) Dec 6 14:57:46 linux kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 16:40 (hdd), sector 64 Dec 6 14:57:46 linux kernel: ide-scsi: hdd: unsupported command in request queue (0) Dec 6 14:57:46 linux kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 16:40 (hdd), sector 66 Dec 6 14:57:46 linux kernel: ide-scsi: hdd: unsupported command in request queue (0) Dec 6 14:57:46 linux kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 16:40 (hdd), sector 68 Dec 6 14:57:46 linux kernel: ide-scsi: hdd: unsupported command in request queue (0) I also find if I look at the hardware panel in the control lists I get the small window opening which says braille and then it freezes at a 4% search Any advice appreciated before I go back to v8 :-( Regards Ted Wager -- Regards Ted Wager