[SLE] kernel issues
Thanks to those (Ben, Jonathan, Zentara) who answered my previous query, re: not being able to boot after installing k_deflt.rpm. Booting installed system via rescue disk, issuing 'depmod -a' and 'lilo', did the trick. However, OSS would no longer work, nor would its sndshield module recompile. So I downloaded the kernel sources for 2.2.16. Then I realized that I'd best rebuild the kernel. Which I did, and everything is working fine, in fact it seems to work better than before. There *was* one big problem -- all root logins were disabled when I rebooted. What could have been the cause of that? Anyhow, I've fixed it. The only problem now is that OSS still doesn't recompile sndshield. I have wiped all trace of OSS from my system, removed the sound modules from /usr.src.linux, downloaded a new OSS, and still I get the same problem. The OSS documentation is rather petulant - "DON'T change the .config file in /usr/src/linux! (except when we tell you to)" -- what's the point of building your own kernel, then? -- and their online support merely repeats what is already unclear in their documentation. Does anyone have any suggestions? Or should I try ALSA? I know that OSS is SuSE's suggested solution, but I was never very happy with the crackling and various other problems, which OSS documentation always manages to blame on someone else's bad programming. What is people's experience with ALSA? Now, there is one thing I did not do, that OSS suggested I do: that is, set CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y The reason is that this is warned against in several places, I didn't have it enabled in 2.2.14, and I was also using the downloaded OSS drivers with that kernel, not the ones that SuSE provides (only because I didn't know they were there), yet OSS worked fine then and I saw no reason why a clean install of OSS wouldn't work fine now. The other reason is that I resent the bossy tone of their documentation. One last question. At boot time I get the message, devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw) failed Now, the SuSE database says this is nothing to worry about if you're not using USB devices, so I am not worried. I'm just curious why this message never appeared with my 2.2.14 kernel as it shipped with 6.4. Thanks again. Corvin -- Corvin Russell <corvinr@sympatico.ca> -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
As far as OSS is concerned..if your sound card is supported under ALSA I would go with that. I used OSS for a long time and was happy with it, but I was also pissed off everytime I updated my kernel it would break..so I went to ALSA and it works perfectly. When you update your kernel you can upgrade ALSA with little or no trouble at all. Go with that..it should work fine. -- Cheers, Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ------------------------- "The only 'intuitive' interface is the nipple. After that, it's all learned." -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
I have just spent an hour and a half installing and tweaking ALSA. It works great! Thanks again for your help, Ben. My experience has consistently been that the level of support given the average user for open-source software is far higher than for *any* proprietary software I have used, even in corporate environments. Mutt, postfix, linux, freebsd, whenever I have asked a question, it has been promptly and accurately answered. Perhaps one day i can return the favour. Anyhow, for now, I just want to say thanks to those who, through no compulsion, take it upon themselves to help others here. Although I generally buy the distributions on CD, because I think they are exceptional value, and because I want to support the linux/bsd community, the only linux software I ever *had* to buy was OSS. It is also the software that gave me the most trouble, and now I finally have had to uninstall it. Plus their support and documentation are crummy. The crumminess of support seems to follow a normal curve -- at the open-source and high-paying corporate ends, it's good. In the middle, Windows/Mac land, it's truly awful. Best, Corvin -- Corvin Russell <corvinr@sympatico.ca> -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
Nice to hear everyone's having success with ALSA - I'd like to join in, and following Jon Pennington's kind advice downloaded the latest ALSA tar.bz files to build it myself - I have a CMI8330 chip on the motherboard that I've never been able to get going despite YAST2 seeing and despite alsaconf apparently seeing it, and despite many efforts to unmute it. The ALSA drivers aborted the make with a complaint like: Error - enable multiplex thingy in kernel CONFIG_SOUND Sorry I didn't get all of it. I have just popped in the 2.2.16 stock SuSE deflt. kernel, using rpm - anyone tell me what this CONFIG_SOUND bit is, and how to sort it? I also am a bit confused with some of the ALSA messages - should I be taking away the soundcore and soundlow modules by using rmmod, or am I mad? Thanks all, Fergus Wilde Chetham's Library Long Millgate Manchester M3 1SB UK Tel: +44 (0)161 834 7961 Fax: +44 (0)161 839 5797 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Corvin Russell" <corvinr@sympatico.ca> To: "Ben Rosenberg" <ben@whack.org>; <suse-linux-e@suse.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 10:06 PM Subject: [SLE] ALSA, OSS, open source and user support
I have just spent an hour and a half installing and tweaking ALSA. It works great! Thanks again for your help, Ben.
My experience has consistently been that the level of support given the average user for open-source software is far higher than for *any* proprietary software I have used, even in corporate environments. Mutt, postfix, linux, freebsd, whenever I have asked a question, it has been promptly and accurately answered. Perhaps one day i can return the favour. Anyhow, for now, I just want to say thanks to those who, through no compulsion, take it upon themselves to help others here.
Although I generally buy the distributions on CD, because I think they are exceptional value, and because I want to support the linux/bsd community, the only linux software I ever *had* to buy was OSS. It is also the software that gave me the most trouble, and now I finally have had to uninstall it. Plus their support and documentation are crummy. The crumminess of support seems to follow a normal curve -- at the open-source and high-paying corporate ends, it's good. In the middle, Windows/Mac land, it's truly awful.
Best,
Corvin
-- Corvin Russell <corvinr@sympatico.ca>
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