[opensuse] Just upgraded Firefox 36.0 on 13.2 and Search Engines
OK, who stuffed up the Search Engines facility in FF 36.0? In previous versions one could select a Search Engine from a drop-down menu but now this option is gone. Anybody know of a quick fix for this new "improvement" in FF 36.0, please? BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.4 & kernel 3.19.0-3 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon 02 Mar 2015 12:59:37 PM CST, Basil Chupin wrote:
OK, who stuffed up the Search Engines facility in FF 36.0?
In previous versions one could select a Search Engine from a drop-down menu but now this option is gone.
Anybody know of a quick fix for this new "improvement" in FF 36.0, please?
BC
Hi Set the default in preferences, or start typing and select the search engine. -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° LFCS, SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 12 GNOME 3.10.1 Kernel 3.12.36-38-default up 3 days 8:26, 4 users, load average: 0.06, 0.23, 0.22 CPU AMD A4-5150M APU @ 3.3GHz | GPU Richland Radeon HD 8350G -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/03/15 13:18, Malcolm wrote:
On Mon 02 Mar 2015 12:59:37 PM CST, Basil Chupin wrote:
OK, who stuffed up the Search Engines facility in FF 36.0?
In previous versions one could select a Search Engine from a drop-down menu but now this option is gone.
Anybody know of a quick fix for this new "improvement" in FF 36.0, please?
BC
Hi Set the default in preferences, or start typing and select the search engine.
I got this bit right before posting my query. But this doesn't make sense and not intuitive - you have to now go to two different places for no real reason where before choosing and customising the engines was done in the one spot. Some developers require psychological tests I am pretty sure before they are allowed to be let loose on applications. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.4 & kernel 3.19.0-3 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin composed:
Oh, I see..... it's now done arse-around. You type in what you want to search and then select the engine.
Makes sense I guess as I usually select the TV channel and then switch on the TV set. ... Some developers require psychological tests I am pretty sure before they are allowed to be let loose on applications.
You think any responsible for this are subscribers to this mailing list? The change is from upstream, same as virtually all FF devolution. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/01/2015 10:21 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
You think any responsible for this are subscribers to this mailing list? The change is from upstream, same as virtually all FF devolution.
One problem that's been around for the past few versions is Adblock Plus no longer works, yet it's fine in Seamonkey. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun 01 Mar 2015 10:26:30 PM CST, James Knott wrote:
On 03/01/2015 10:21 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
You think any responsible for this are subscribers to this mailing list? The change is from upstream, same as virtually all FF devolution.
One problem that's been around for the past few versions is Adblock Plus no longer works, yet it's fine in Seamonkey.
Hi Use AdBlock Edge instead and no 'acceptable ads'.... -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° LFCS, SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 12 GNOME 3.10.1 Kernel 3.12.36-38-default up 3 days 9:48, 4 users, load average: 0.12, 0.37, 0.53 CPU AMD A4-5150M APU @ 3.3GHz | GPU Richland Radeon HD 8350G -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/03/15 14:39, Malcolm wrote:
On Sun 01 Mar 2015 10:26:30 PM CST, James Knott wrote:
On 03/01/2015 10:21 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
You think any responsible for this are subscribers to this mailing list? The change is from upstream, same as virtually all FF devolution. One problem that's been around for the past few versions is Adblock Plus no longer works, yet it's fine in Seamonkey.
Hi Use AdBlock Edge instead and no 'acceptable ads'....
Correct. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.4 & kernel 3.19.0-3 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/01/2015 10:39 PM, Malcolm wrote:
One problem that's been around for the past few versions is Adblock
Plus no longer works, yet it's fine in Seamonkey.
Hi Use AdBlock Edge instead and no 'acceptable ads'....
Just tried it and I'm still getting ads. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/02/2015 08:30 AM, James Knott wrote:
On 03/01/2015 10:39 PM, Malcolm wrote:
One problem that's been around for the past few versions is Adblock
Plus no longer works, yet it's fine in Seamonkey.
Hi Use AdBlock Edge instead and no 'acceptable ads'....
Just tried it and I'm still getting ads.
Turns out I can't remove Adblock Plus. I remove it, shut down Firefox, restart it and it's still there. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> [03-02-15 10:04]:
On 03/02/2015 08:30 AM, James Knott wrote:
On 03/01/2015 10:39 PM, Malcolm wrote:
One problem that's been around for the past few versions is Adblock
Plus no longer works, yet it's fine in Seamonkey.
Hi Use AdBlock Edge instead and no 'acceptable ads'....
Just tried it and I'm still getting ads.
Turns out I can't remove Adblock Plus. I remove it, shut down Firefox, restart it and it's still there.
wfm, do you have a hidden instance of firefox? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/02/2015 10:07 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Turns out I can't remove Adblock Plus. I remove it, shut down Firefox,
restart it and it's still there. wfm, do you have a hidden instance of firefox?
No, I shut down all open windows and then opened a single one. Adblock Edge remains disabled in the mean time. If Adblock Plus can't be removed when desired, it has moved into the realm of crapware. No software should make itself uninstallable. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/02/2015 10:21 AM, James Knott wrote:
On 03/02/2015 10:07 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Turns out I can't remove Adblock Plus. I remove it, shut down Firefox,
restart it and it's still there. wfm, do you have a hidden instance of firefox? No, I shut down all open windows and then opened a single one. Adblock Edge remains disabled in the mean time.
If Adblock Plus can't be removed when desired, it has moved into the realm of crapware. No software should make itself uninstallable.
I can't even disable Adblock Plus. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> [03-02-15 10:23]:
On 03/02/2015 10:07 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Turns out I can't remove Adblock Plus. I remove it, shut down Firefox,
restart it and it's still there. wfm, do you have a hidden instance of firefox?
No, I shut down all open windows and then opened a single one. Adblock Edge remains disabled in the mean time.
If Adblock Plus can't be removed when desired, it has moved into the realm of crapware. No software should make itself uninstallable.
You are frustrated, but disparaging Adblock Plus because you have failed to remove it in the face of other reporting success is counter-productive and unwarranted. Solve *your* problem or do a bug report. The sky is *not* falling. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2 Mar 2015 16:03, James Knott <james.knott@...> wrote:
On 03/02/2015 08:30 AM, James Knott wrote:
On 03/01/2015 10:39 PM, Malcolm wrote:
One problem that's been around for the past few versions is Adblock
Plus no longer works, yet it's fine in Seamonkey.
Hi Use AdBlock Edge instead and no 'acceptable ads'....
Just tried it and I'm still getting ads.
Turns out I can't remove Adblock Plus. I remove it, shut down Firefox, restart it and it's still there.
Try "deactivate" Plus first, then installing Edge, then "deinstall/remove" Plus, that way worked for me. Sad to see that Wladimir Palant wasn't on this failure before FF 36 was released, will have to see what happens in the next days around the Adblock Plus community. - Yamaban. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/02/2015 10:22 AM, Yamaban wrote:
Try "deactivate" Plus first, then installing Edge, then "deinstall/remove" Plus, that way worked for me.
Still have Adblock Plus and Edge remains disabled. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2 Mar 2015 16:27, James Knott <james.knott@...> wrote:
On 03/02/2015 10:22 AM, Yamaban wrote:
Try "deactivate" Plus first, then installing Edge, then "deinstall/remove" Plus, that way worked for me.
Still have Adblock Plus and Edge remains disabled.
Go to your profile folder, (e.g. ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/) go into sub dir "extensions", remove "{d10d0bf8-f5b5-c8b4-a8b2-2b9879e08c5d}.xpi", restart Firefox. I'm using upstream[1] Firefox 36.0 64-Bit , I had no problem with disabling / removing Adblock Plus. [1] http://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/ - Yamaban -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/02/2015 10:22 AM, Yamaban wrote:
Sad to see that Wladimir Palant wasn't on this failure before FF 36 was released, will have to see what happens in the next days around the Adblock Plus community.
IIRC, 33 was the last FF version it worked with. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
(Sorry, James, didn't want to bother you with am PM...) Am 02.03.2015 um 14:30 schrieb James Knott:
On 03/01/2015 10:39 PM, Malcolm wrote:
One problem that's been around for the past few versions is Adblock
Plus no longer works, yet it's fine in Seamonkey.
Hi Use AdBlock Edge instead and no 'acceptable ads'....
Just tried it and I'm still getting ads.
What exactly does no longer work in Adblock plus? I'm with firefox 35.0 and as much as I can see it works. I have, for example, blocked several autmatically starting musicplayers, and this still works perfectly. I don't see g+ and fb buttons, unless I unblock a specific page... Or is it just from ff 36? -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/02/2015 10:38 AM, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Or is it just from ff 36?
Actually, the problem started with 34, IIRC. However, Edge seems to block ads that Plus didn't. I even tried reinstalling Plus and the ads came back. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon 02 Mar 2015 10:51:50 AM CST, James Knott wrote:
On 03/02/2015 10:38 AM, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Or is it just from ff 36?
Actually, the problem started with 34, IIRC. However, Edge seems to block ads that Plus didn't. I even tried reinstalling Plus and the ads came back.
Hi Because those are 'Acceptable' advertisements.... hence the fork and adblock edge appearing ;) -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° LFCS, SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 12 GNOME 3.10.1 Kernel 3.12.36-38-default up 3 days 22:03, 4 users, load average: 0.57, 0.51, 0.53 CPU AMD A4-5150M APU @ 3.3GHz | GPU Richland Radeon HD 8350G -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 02.03.2015 um 16:54 schrieb Malcolm:
On Mon 02 Mar 2015 10:51:50 AM CST, James Knott wrote:
On 03/02/2015 10:38 AM, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Or is it just from ff 36?
Actually, the problem started with 34, IIRC. However, Edge seems to block ads that Plus didn't. I even tried reinstalling Plus and the ads came back.
Hi Because those are 'Acceptable' advertisements.... hence the fork and adblock edge appearing ;)
But one can turn off the 'Acceptable' ads in ABP. That's what I did. -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/02/2015 10:54 AM, Malcolm wrote:
Actually, the problem started with 34, IIRC. However, Edge seems to
block ads that Plus didn't. I even tried reinstalling Plus and the ads came back.
Hi Because those are 'Acceptable' advertisements.... hence the fork and adblock edge appearing ;)
Then why don't I see those "acceptable" ads in Seamonkey? I still have Plus running on it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/03/15 14:26, James Knott wrote:
On 03/01/2015 10:21 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
You think any responsible for this are subscribers to this mailing list? The change is from upstream, same as virtually all FF devolution. One problem that's been around for the past few versions is Adblock Plus no longer works, yet it's fine in Seamonkey.
Adblock Plus has really been replaced by Adblock Edge so use this. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.4 & kernel 3.19.0-3 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/03/15 14:21, Felix Miata wrote:
Basil Chupin composed:
Oh, I see..... it's now done arse-around. You type in what you want to search and then select the engine. Makes sense I guess as I usually select the TV channel and then switch on the TV set. ... Some developers require psychological tests I am pretty sure before they are allowed to be let loose on applications. You think any responsible for this are subscribers to this mailing list? The change is from upstream, same as virtually all FF devolution.
I was using the Nightly version of FF (Aurora) until a couple of months or so ago at which point I think the version number was #38. The current FF to which oS 13.2 was upgraded yesterday is #36. There was no such nonsense re the search engine in the Aurora so it is difficult to say whether this arse-around way of doing a search was done 'locally' or 'upstream'. The comment about developers, be they 'local' or 'upstream', sitting for a test where they are given ink blots to look at, and asked what they see, stands :-) . BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.4 & kernel 3.19.0-3 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, Am 02.03.2015 um 06:07 schrieb Basil Chupin:
On 02/03/15 14:21, Felix Miata wrote:
Basil Chupin composed:
Oh, I see..... it's now done arse-around. You type in what you want to search and then select the engine. Makes sense I guess as I usually select the TV channel and then switch on the TV set. ... Some developers require psychological tests I am pretty sure before they are allowed to be let loose on applications. You think any responsible for this are subscribers to this mailing list? The change is from upstream, same as virtually all FF devolution.
I was using the Nightly version of FF (Aurora) until a couple of months or so ago at which point I think the version number was #38. The current FF to which oS 13.2 was upgraded yesterday is #36. There was no such nonsense re the search engine in the Aurora so it is difficult to say whether this arse-around way of doing a search was done 'locally' or 'upstream'.
The comment about developers, be they 'local' or 'upstream', sitting for a test where they are given ink blots to look at, and asked what they see, stands :-) .
This change came from upstream obviously. Why would we fiddle with that thing at openSUSE? I haven't tried if it works but you might be able to get back to old behaviour setting browser.search.showOneOffButtons to false (I didn't test and I don't know when that'll disappear.) Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [03-01-15 21:00]:
OK, who stuffed up the Search Engines facility in FF 36.0?
In previous versions one could select a Search Engine from a drop-down menu but now this option is gone.
Anybody know of a quick fix for this new "improvement" in FF 36.0, please?
Fixing is not necessary, it's just different looking. <rt><clk> in the search box and adjust to yer ?heart?'s delite. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/03/15 13:36, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [03-01-15 21:00]:
OK, who stuffed up the Search Engines facility in FF 36.0?
In previous versions one could select a Search Engine from a drop-down menu but now this option is gone.
Anybody know of a quick fix for this new "improvement" in FF 36.0, please? Fixing is not necessary, it's just different looking. <rt><clk> in the search box and adjust to yer ?heart?'s delite.
Oh, I see..... it's now done arse-around. You type in what you want to search and then select the engine. Makes sense I guess as I usually select the TV channel and then switch on the TV set. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.4 & kernel 3.19.0-3 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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