Re: [opensuse] UEFI and W7 recovery?
---- "Carlos E. R."
On 2013-06-04 04:43, j.e.perry@cox.net wrote:
I backed up my W7 system, but I don't want to lose the vendor-supplied recovery partition (there is, of course, no recovery dvd).
I'm almost sure you can clone it from Windows. Maybe there is a program supplied by the manufacturer that creates it. If not, you can use ghost like tools to clone it externally.
I don't know of one. And another customer asked Samsung this question after he'd wiped it without thinking to back up the recovery partition, and the reply was "send it in for repair". I know I can do it with dd, but I have to get a dd running first, which means installing 12.3, which means possibly (probably?) wiping the partition. I have no compelling reason to believe the recovery partition is corrupt, but I've tried several times to repair the W7 partition (200G out of 1TB), and Windows always says it's succeeded, and appears to work fine, but if I fire up Windows maintenance again, it repeats the error message, and takes another 15 -- 20 minutes to repair it again. Repeat ... Repeat ...
When I boot into 12.3 install, I get the message, "You have to delete all existing partitions to get a valid uefi boot partition", or text to that effect. There are no other options offered (the present partition setup is corrupt due to the disastrous 12.2 attempt), and I see no way to avoid wiping the recovery partition.
If the layout is corrupt due to previous attempts, simply run the manufacturer recovery procedure on that partition. Let it reinstall Windows, then try again with openSUSE.
Tried that; that's how I got a running system back after the VB/12.2 disaster. It's a 64-bit Home Premium system, Andrey. I've been thinking about buying a W7Pro package (several Windows-only programs needed), but the "send for repair" demand from Samsung worries me. And, of, course, the cost of W7Pro. jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-04 05:30, j.e.perry@cox.net wrote:
I'm almost sure you can clone it from Windows. Maybe there is a program supplied by the manufacturer that creates it. If not, you can use ghost like tools to clone it externally.
I don't know of one. And another customer asked Samsung this question after he'd wiped it without thinking to back up the recovery partition, and the reply was "send it in for repair".
Astonishing. Hold on. He wiped what? Assuming you can boot the original manufacturer installed Windows, there should be a program there already installed that clones the recovery partition to DVD. If he deleted the recovery partition of course that is impossible. And if he/you deleted Windows, the recovery partition task is precisely to reinstall that Windows to factory mint condition.
I know I can do it with dd, but I have to get a dd running first, which means installing 12.3, which means possibly (probably?) wiping the partition.
No, you can simply run it from almost any live linux system, no installation necessary. For instance, from the 12.3 XFCE CD image on CD/USB. If you can not create the CD/USB stick on your computer, go to a friend, library, internet cafe... I have no compelling reason to believe
the recovery partition is corrupt, but I've tried several times to repair the W7 partition (200G out of 1TB), and Windows always says it's succeeded, and appears to work fine, but if I fire up Windows maintenance again, it repeats the error message, and takes another 15 -- 20 minutes to repair it again. Repeat ... Repeat ...
Not repair. Boot the rescue partition, from the Bios boot menu. This will wipe entirely your installed Windows system and put everything as they were when you opened the cardbox. Have you done this? If this is impossible, the rescue partition is totally useless and you can clearly delete it. Why keep a recovery partition that can not recover the system? - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGtYk8ACgkQIvFNjefEBxrM/QCdFN0TxIpm9KqsAbPv15J8lE4V 2UEAn3hxUuk2LLIExvc25/djA0kjJBNA =eiTg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/03/2013 11:30 PM, j.e.perry@cox.net wrote:
---- "Carlos E. R."
wrote: On 2013-06-04 04:43, j.e.perry@cox.net wrote:
I backed up my W7 system, but I don't want to lose the vendor-supplied recovery partition (there is, of course, no recovery dvd).
I'm almost sure you can clone it from Windows. Maybe there is a program supplied by the manufacturer that creates it. If not, you can use ghost like tools to clone it externally.
I don't know of one. And another customer asked Samsung this question after he'd wiped it without thinking to back up the recovery partition, and the reply was "send it in for repair".
I know I can do it with dd, but I have to get a dd running first, which means installing 12.3, which means possibly (probably?) wiping the partition. I have no compelling reason to believe the recovery partition is corrupt, but I've tried several times to repair the W7 partition (200G out of 1TB), and Windows always says it's succeeded, and appears to work fine, but if I fire up Windows maintenance again, it repeats the error message, and takes another 15 -- 20 minutes to repair it again. Repeat ... Repeat ...
When I boot into 12.3 install, I get the message, "You have to delete all existing partitions to get a valid uefi boot partition", or text to that effect. There are no other options offered (the present partition setup is corrupt due to the disastrous 12.2 attempt), and I see no way to avoid wiping the recovery partition.
If the layout is corrupt due to previous attempts, simply run the manufacturer recovery procedure on that partition. Let it reinstall Windows, then try again with openSUSE.
Tried that; that's how I got a running system back after the VB/12.2 disaster.
It's a 64-bit Home Premium system, Andrey. I've been thinking about buying a W7Pro package (several Windows-only programs needed), but the "send for repair" demand from Samsung worries me. And, of, course, the cost of W7Pro.
jp
You should be able to run dd from a Live CD--I think it's going to be on it. You should be able to get an upgrade Windows 7 Pro for less than a new install. You MUST have some version of Windows on the drive to use the upgrade. But if you download the upgrade, make SURE you make a CD of the program, because if you don't, and something happens to your installation, you'll need a disk copy to reinstall it. (Just don't reformat the partition first--remember you have to have a version of Windows on the drive, working or not, to install the upgrade.) BTW, I think there are some discounts available for Windows systems --check with Google and see what's out there. Also, you can get Windows 8 Professional upgrade also, and get the free app called Classic Shell, which will make it look and work like Win 7, but with Win 8 characteristics if and when you want them. You can also get some KDE apps for Win 7 or 8--I find that Kate is a nice text editor, and I could not live in Windows without the file finder, which is just called "Folder" on the windows icon. Unless you don't care where your file actually is! KDE card games will also run in Windows--at lest the solitaire ones do.And I think you can get Gwenview, but I'm not at a Windows machine, so I'm not sure about that one. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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