Re: [opensuse] Re: Systemd: a foolish design making distro's into lemmings.
Ruediger you do not understand what multi-seat is. Please read wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiseat_configuration 2014-06-08 17:57 GMT+02:00 Damian Ivanov <damianatorrpm@gmail.com>:
Ruediger, have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiseat_configuration
2014-06-08 17:55 GMT+02:00 Damian Ivanov <damianatorrpm@gmail.com>:
Ruediger you do not understand what multi-seat is. Please read wikipedia.
2014-06-08 17:31 GMT+02:00 Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com>:
On 06/08/2014 11:22 AM, Ruediger Meier wrote:
On Sunday 08 June 2014, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 06/08/2014 09:20 AM, Ruediger Meier wrote:
LOL, where exactly is the "frickeln" part? I start a second seat by typing just one command. How would you do this with systemd?
If you read the links that I gave earlier you would have the answer to that.
No need to issue a command,
For me issuing a command is much more easy than clicking random buttons ...
This isn't about random buttons. Login is part of an identification and authentication process, part of what differentiates *NIX from DOS/Windows :-)
What you have missed is that before you issuing that command (and having to write that shell script) you had to log in.
The approach Damian and I are talking about ... You just log in. No random buttons, not issuing a custom command.
Each seat is presented with the login prompt.
And how would you start the second seat while one user is already logged in using all Monitors? (Whithout logging the first user off!)
each seat is presented with the graphical login.
So even there is only one user logged in ... the other monitors stay idle with login screen? I have no need for such poor thing...
Then you have no need for a multi-user system to start with.
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On Sunday 08 June 2014, Damian Ivanov wrote:
Ruediger you do not understand what multi-seat is. Please read wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiseat_configuration
2014-06-08 17:57 GMT+02:00 Damian Ivanov <damianatorrpm@gmail.com>:
Ruediger, have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiseat_configuration
Thanks for opening another thread to let me read it... But you should have read it by yourself. Xephyr setup is mentioned there as one of the most recent solutions in history ... Logind, systemd or whatever you try to sell us as "needed to let multi-seat work" ... there is not a single word about it in whole article. Also note that Wikipedia definitions are not 100% consistent in mathematical sense. What are "multiple independent local users"? The four guys sitting at the small desk on that picture are for sure not completely independent. And it wouldn't make any difference if their 4 monitors would be replaced by 2 double sized ones. BTW there are also graphic boards for two monitors which appear within linux only as one large screen. The only change about systemd regarding multi-seat which I have noticed so far is that the stupid login session managment makes it more hard for me to do what I want. I stop this stupid discussion now. cu, Rudi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
yes stop it as you have no clue. 2014-06-08 18:50 GMT+02:00 Ruediger Meier <sweet_f_a@gmx.de>:
On Sunday 08 June 2014, Damian Ivanov wrote:
Ruediger you do not understand what multi-seat is. Please read wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiseat_configuration
2014-06-08 17:57 GMT+02:00 Damian Ivanov <damianatorrpm@gmail.com>:
Ruediger, have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiseat_configuration
Thanks for opening another thread to let me read it...
But you should have read it by yourself. Xephyr setup is mentioned there as one of the most recent solutions in history ... Logind, systemd or whatever you try to sell us as "needed to let multi-seat work" ... there is not a single word about it in whole article.
Also note that Wikipedia definitions are not 100% consistent in mathematical sense. What are "multiple independent local users"? The four guys sitting at the small desk on that picture are for sure not completely independent. And it wouldn't make any difference if their 4 monitors would be replaced by 2 double sized ones.
BTW there are also graphic boards for two monitors which appear within linux only as one large screen.
The only change about systemd regarding multi-seat which I have noticed so far is that the stupid login session managment makes it more hard for me to do what I want.
I stop this stupid discussion now.
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On 06/08/2014 12:50 PM, Ruediger Meier wrote:
Logind, systemd or whatever you try to sell us as "needed to let multi-seat work" ... there is not a single word about it in whole article.
Actually there is. <quote> Automatic multiseat with USB docking stations is a feature of Fedora 17.[11][12] </quote> Which links to: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/multi-seat -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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