SuSE 8.1. Is it possible for yast1 and yast2 to coexhist on the same system? I downloaded and installed the yast1 version from 7.3. Yast2 continues to work, but yast1 won't start. Alternately, how can I get yast2 to use a directory on the system HD for the installation of rpm's. This problem has been plagueing me since the introduction of yast2 Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Multivariant and stochastic http://web.jadeinc.com/FoundationChem
The 03.10.27 at 09:52, Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. wrote:
SuSE 8.1.
Is it possible for yast1 and yast2 to coexhist on the same system?
yast1 was designed for versions < 8. On version 7.3 you had both versions, but on 8.1 I don't think yast1 will work.
I downloaded and installed the yast1 version from 7.3. Yast2 continues to work, but yast1 won't start.
Alternately, how can I get yast2 to use a directory on the system HD for the installation of rpm's. This problem has been plagueing me since the introduction of yast2
Ah... I remember that previously it would work only if the HD was physically different; it could be the case for SuSE 8.1. I'm talking of using a HD copy of the RPMs to make a fresh install of SuSE. If you are talking of an already installed system, and you want to install new rpms (non SuSE), then it won't work. If you simply want to change the source of the rpms, you can point to a directory if it has the same structure as the CD or the FTP server, at least with SuSE 8.2. On 8.1 I think I did it using a local ftp server (same machine). -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:17:55 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> wrote:
Ah... I remember that previously it would work only if the HD was physically different; it could be the case for SuSE 8.1.
No, he is talking about in YaST1 you can put some RPM's in a directory, point YaST1 to it and install them. This ability is missing in YaST2. These days I just use "rpm -Uvh *.rpm". Charles -- "Oh, I've seen copies [of Linux Journal] around the terminal room at The Labs." (By Dennis Ritchie)
* Charles Philip Chan <cpchan@sympatico.ca> [10-28-03 19:21]:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:17:55 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> wrote:
Ah... I remember that previously it would work only if the HD was physically different; it could be the case for SuSE 8.1.
No, he is talking about in YaST1 you can put some RPM's in a directory, point YaST1 to it and install them. This ability is missing in YaST2. These days I just use "rpm -Uvh *.rpm".
~# yast2 --help Usage: /sbin/yast2 [OPTIONS] [MODULE] [module specific parameters] [trim ...] OPTION: -i, --install install rpm package <package> can be a single short package name (e.g. gvim) which will be installed with dependency checking, or the full path to an rpm package (e.g /tmp/gvim.rpm) which will be installed without dependency checking -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:42:06 -0500 Patrick Shanahan <WideGlide@SpeedyMail.Org> wrote:
-i, --install install rpm package
Interesting, but in YaST1 one can point to the directory and selectively mark the packages to be install. Using YaST2 -i I might as well use rpm directly. Charles -- "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk ?" Microsoft spel chekar vor sail, worgs grate !! (By leitner@inf.fu-berlin.de, Felix von Leitner)
* Charles Philip Chan <cpchan@sympatico.ca> [10-28-03 20:12]:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:42:06 -0500 Patrick Shanahan <WideGlide@SpeedyMail.Org> wrote:
-i, --install install rpm package
Interesting, but in YaST1 one can point to the directory and selectively mark the packages to be install. Using YaST2 -i I might as well use rpm directly.
But yast2 will also run SuSEconfig when it finishes the rpm. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:14:46 -0500 Patrick Shanahan <WideGlide@SpeedyMail.Org> wrote:
But yast2 will also run SuSEconfig when it finishes the rpm.
Which is annoying. I know what I am installing and if running SuSEconfig is warranted, I will run it manually with the "module" option. Charles -- "A word to the wise: a credentials dicksize war is usually a bad idea on the net." (David Parsons in c.o.l.development.system, about coding in C.)
The 03.10.28 at 19:42, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
~# yast2 --help Usage: /sbin/yast2 [OPTIONS] [MODULE] [module specific parameters] [trim ...] OPTION: -i, --install install rpm package
<package> can be a single short package name (e.g. gvim) which will be installed with dependency checking, or the full path to an rpm package (e.g /tmp/gvim.rpm) which will be installed without dependency checking
Yes; but yast1 allowed you to to point to a directory, and even browse directories, and there choose which rpms to install and which not, and see the info about them previously. That yast2 can not do, and I miss it. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 02:21:07 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> wrote:
Yes; but yast1 allowed you to to point to a directory, and even browse directories, and there choose which rpms to install and which not, and see the info about them previously.
I totally agree with you. Although the console frontend for YaST2 is getting better, I still miss YaST1 :-(. Charles -- There are no threads in a.b.p.erotica, so there's no gain in using a threaded news reader. (Unknown source)
The 03.10.28 at 19:13, Charles Philip Chan wrote:
Ah... I remember that previously it would work only if the HD was physically different; it could be the case for SuSE 8.1.
No, he is talking about in YaST1 you can put some RPM's in a directory, point YaST1 to it and install them. This ability is missing in YaST2. These days I just use "rpm -Uvh *.rpm".
Right, that's correct. But also, yast would refuse to install linux taking as source a directory where all suse was downloaded, if the directory was on the same HD as the HD where the install was taking place. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Why not kpackage? CWSIV On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:08:02 -0500 Charles Philip Chan <cpchan@sympatico.ca> writes:
Patrick Shanahan <WideGlide@SpeedyMail.Org> wrote: -i, --install install rpm package
Interesting, but in YaST1 one can point to the directory and selectively mark the packages to be install. Using YaST2 -i I might as well use rpm directly.
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:22:38 PST Carl William Spitzer IV <cwsiv@juno.com> wrote:
Why not kpackage?
Because, if I am not mistaken, he wants a console based program. Charles -- "The world is beating a path to our door" -- Bruce Perens, (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)
On Thursday 30 October 2003 04:57, Charles Philip Chan wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:22:38 PST
Carl William Spitzer IV <cwsiv@juno.com> wrote:
Why not kpackage?
Because, if I am not mistaken, he wants a console based program.
But, he can tell yast2 to use a source medium that is a local directory, isn't that enough?
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:49:12 +0100 Örn Hansen <orn.hansen@swipnet.se> wrote:
But, he can tell yast2 to use a source medium that is a local directory, isn't that enough?
Try putting some rpm's in a local directory and point YaST2 to it- YaST2 will not allow you to do it. YaST1 will. Charles -- ..you could spend *all day* customizing the title bar. Believe me. I speak from experience." (By Matt Welsh)
You open a console log in as root and therein run kpackage. CWSIV On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:57:54 -0500 Charles Philip Chan <cpchan@sympatico.ca> writes:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:22:38 PST Carl William Spitzer IV <cwsiv@juno.com> wrote:
Why not kpackage?
Because, if I am not mistaken, he wants a console based program.
Charles
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-- Bruce Perens, (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:52:02 PST Carl William Spitzer IV <cwsiv@juno.com> wrote:
You open a console log in as root and therein run kpackage. CWSIV
He wants a console based (ie: ncurses based, slang based, etc) program. A lot of servers don't even have X installed. Charles -- I've run DOOM more in the last few days than I have the last few months. I just love debugging ;-) (Linus Torvalds)
The 03.10.30 at 23:39, Charles Philip Chan wrote:
He wants a console based (ie: ncurses based, slang based, etc) program. A lot of servers don't even have X installed.
Yast2 works on a console; I have done remote maintenance by ssh over two modems. But it doesn't navigate directories of rpms as yast1 did (unless version 9 does). Now that I think, I would like some way to see what one is doing on yast by ssh locally on the other computer... perhaps a tee to a pipe, and 'cat' the pipe to a console. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:58:33 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> wrote:
Yast2 works on a console; I have done remote maintenance by ssh over two modems. But it doesn't navigate directories of rpms as yast1 did (unless version 9 does).
I know. Have you tried purp? http://www.lysator.liu.se/purp/ Charles -- "...Unix, MS-DOS, and Windows NT (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly)." (By Matt Welsh)
That leaves only RPM or perhaps a script which calls RPM. As I remember that was one reason people miss Yast1 CWSIV On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:39:42 -0500 Charles Philip Chan <cpchan@sympatico.ca> writes:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:52:02 PST Carl William Spitzer IV <cwsiv@juno.com> wrote:
You open a console log in as root and therein run kpackage. CWSIV
He wants a console based (ie: ncurses based, slang based, etc) program. A lot of servers don't even have X installed.
Charles
-- I've run DOOM more in the last few days than I have the last few months. I just love debugging ;-) (Linus Torvalds)
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:38:25 PST Carl William Spitzer IV <cwsiv@juno.com> wrote:
That leaves only RPM or perhaps a script which calls RPM.
Try purp: http://www.lysator.liu.se/purp/
As I remember that was one reason people miss Yast1
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