Re:[SLE] Booting with Floppy ~ including the SuSE Original Distro Boot Disk
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:39:21 -0500
Message-Id: <200012151839.AA247660798@pressroom.com>
From: "Oleg Godeanu"
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Oleg Godeanu wrote:
Did you tried the physical integrity of the disk - let's say using DiskDupe or something of the kind ? Did you tried booting from the recovery disk as well ?
Oleg ~ thanks a ton :)
Something VEry odd, is happening here ~ It seems that LILO is over-riding the BIOS instruction to boot from Drive A: { fd0 } ................
I have 3 Linux systems on my Hard Disk :
SuSE 6.2 SuSE 7.0 Mandrake
ALL three are set up to share the same boot Partition /dev/hda1 which is ext2 file system { there is NO DOS partition on my Hard Disk }
With the ONE exception of "Toms Killer Boot Disk", NO Linux bootable floppy will boot from /dev/fd0 !
It appears that the /boot partition /dev/hda1 has taken control of my system !
Any ideas { I do not believe the floppies to be corrupted }
thanks
best wishes
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
This happened, suddenly.
My SuSE official distro Boot Disk used to work flawlessly.
Suddenly, it will not boot %#$@
any ideas ? . . . I have tried re-setting BIOS defaults, but still have this problem :(
thanks
Hi, SuSErs :)
~ Am having a problem, booting from /dev/fd0 _____________________________________________________
After my BIOS message reports: 'Verifying DMI Pool Data . . . . ' "Boot failed" appears, and the system hangs :(
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My floppy drive is able to Boot DOS Disks OK , but I get "Boot failed" , from ALL my Linux Boot Disks
with, ONE exception : 'Tom's Killer Boot Disk' DOES Boot OK .. . . Good 'ole Tom ! ................................
Any ideas, please, what may be the mysterious cause .. . . did 3 of my Linux Boot Disks, ALL, get hit my a Cosmic Ray $#@% {{{ LILO works OK }
thanks
best wishes
Richard --
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:39:07 -0600
From: Gary
So tell me more ... BIOS manufacturer, motherboard, how many possible boot devices, is LILO installed on Master Boot Record of /dev/hda1, which is the order you installed the 3 distributions (well, I guess SuSE 6.2 was before SuSE 7.0 :) - but what version is Mandrake and where does it fall within the before-mentioned sequence ?
Yes, good question. If it is Mandrake 7 or >, the trouble might be that Mandrake defaults to the Grub installer and not LILO, and not limited by the 1024 problem. It will install Grub automatically. Just a thought. <p> -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: Chaos, panic, pandemonium - my work here is done.
From: tabanna
If it is Mandrake 7 or , the trouble might be that Mandrake defaults to the Grub installer and not LILO, and not limited by the 1024 problem. It will install Grub automatically. Just a thought.
Gee, thanks Gary :) .. . . feels like Sherlock_Holmes stuff . . . what do you think I should look_for, and delete, in my Boot Partition /dev/hda1 ? best wishes -- ____________ sent on Linux ____________ 100% Virus Free! AMD Inside
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:06:36 -0600
From: Gary
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Gary wrote:
If it is Mandrake 7 or , the trouble might be that Mandrake defaults to the Grub installer and not LILO, and not limited by the 1024 problem. It will install Grub automatically. Just a thought.
Gee, thanks Gary :)
.. . . feels like Sherlock_Holmes stuff . . . what do you think I should look_for, and delete, in my Boot Partition /dev/hda1 ?
Hello my friend, Yes, it does feel like Sherlock, and many times for Linux, for me, it feels this way, probably why I like it so. In looking further at this thread, and now you feel that LILO is overriding bios, then I think it is a LILO (at least in part) problem, and as mentioned, with Mandrake perhaps defaulting to Grub. Mandrake has both LILO and Grub, and defaults to Grub. Each version of Linux that you have makes its own LILO which is predicated and appended based on the previous version of LILO. I feel that Mandrake saw the other combined versions of LILO (based on the 2 previous versions, added that combined LILO, and put it into Grub. I could be wrong. Now comes along SuSE 7 after that, doing its LILO thing, but not knowing what Grub is. SuSE 7 was installed after Mandrake. I don't know what affect this would have, and it may totally screw up everything, but what I would do is if you can get into Mandrake, do a /sbin/lilo to reset Mandrake to LILO instead of Grub, then go into your last install, SuSE 7, and rerun LILO with /sbin/lilo after that, to append all the previous LILO to your latest install. Just thinking about it, you may have to start at the beginning from your oldest install to the latest, but probably not, as Mandrake's Grub will have picked up the LiLOs from the 2 previous installs by then. LILO will append what it finds to the current version, and I think this is where the problem lay, because LILO could not have been used by Mandrake at all, and threw things out of whack. Again, it is purely speculation, and the last thing I would want to do is trash your box. But I think it will be okay, especially if you back up your /etc/lilo.conf files for each distro for safety, so that you can put them back as they were in case of problems. Also, Juergen may be on to something here too, by recreating your boot floppy. He mentions "Toms Linux" and I thought you mentioned "Toms Boot Floppy" but I am not familiar with this. Is it an actual pocket Linux or some type of boot loader? Juergen's thinking of an append option missing, may be correct. These are the only things I can think of. <p> -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: Chaos, panic, pandemonium - my work here is done.
From: tabanna
So tell me more ... BIOS manufacturer, motherboard, how many possible boot devices, is LILO installed on Master Boot Record of /dev/hda1, which is the order you installed the 3 distributions (well, I guess SuSE 6.2 was before SuSE 7.0 :) - but what version is Mandrake and where does it fall within the before-mentioned sequence ?
Hello, Oleg :) Mother Board is: Soyo, SY-5EHM Super 7 { unknown BIOS author } cpu: AMD K6/2 LILO is installed on Master Boot Record of /dev/hda1 order: 1). Suse6.2 2).back-up installation of Suse6.2 3) Mandrake 7.2.17mdk 4) SuSE7.0 ................... best wishes -- ____________ sent on Linux ____________ 100% Virus Free! AMD Inside
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