MG>Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@indo.net.id> MG>writes: MG>> Shutting down my KDE I get a lot of error information MG>about MG>> qwidget who seem to complain that a negative value is MG>It is part of the qt library: The QWidget class is the MG>base class of MG>all user interface objects. It sounds like some KDE/Qt MG>application is MG>not properly setting things up for a saved session. Do MG>you get the MG>same errors when you do not select "Save session for MG>future logins"? Yes, I am always leaving the sesion without Save session for future logins. But I have to confes that I have saved my favored screen some time ago with save sessions for future logins in order to start it with gkrellm and xawtv. Was to lazy to enter those two in autostart. Will try to empty everything from my kde desktop and save that for future logins ;-) and see if that solves the problem. Will report. -- " Every little BYTE helps " NTReader v0.36w(P)/Beta (Registered) in conjunction with Net-Tamer.