Has anyone tried to install SuSe on the notebooks manufactured by XTREME.NOTEBOOKS.COM ? Their wenbsite is as follows: http://www.xtremenotebooks.com/index.php?section=include&include_type=contactus They seem to have 17" monitors and ADM fast processor and up to 2GB RAM and all sort of goodies but they do not support any Linux distribution ... sigh .... sigh ... sigh ... Thank you for any suggestion. Maura
On Sunday 11 September 2005 03:29, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Has anyone tried to install SuSe on the notebooks manufactured by XTREME.NOTEBOOKS.COM ? Their wenbsite is as follows: http://www.xtremenotebooks.com/index.php?section=include&include_type=conta ctus
They seem to have 17" monitors and ADM fast processor and up to 2GB RAM and all sort of goodies but they do not support any Linux distribution ... sigh .... sigh ... sigh ...
Thank you for any suggestion. Maura
Hi, you don't state your problem, so my response may not be relevant: I bought a new TPG laptop and had lots of trouble with the screen. In particular, SuSE would use the correct size as it installed, downloaded (automatically) from the net, and completed set up. Then on boot up everything would go well until suddenly a part of SuSE would say "The screen size appears to be 0x0" and proceed to use same: Ahhhhh! Nobody responded to my posted question, so I took my laptop along to the SLUG (Sydney Linux Users' Group) where half a dozen guys played with it for four hours. We deduced that something was going wrong within RAM; so I told them that TPG have installed a cheap, crappy video card which uses up 64 MB of RAM, and they pounced on the idea that the hardware was not initiating as fast as the boot code, and that boot code was getting the RAM size before the graphics card had initialised. So (I am sorry but I don't know how) they built a timeout delay into the boot sequence - giving the graphics card time to wind up. (Incidently, M$ Windows XP boots okay - I guess it is too slow :-) These guys installed the latest 64 bit version of Ubuntu on my laptop. It is nice, and much cheaper than SuSE (like 100% free). Good luck, Colin
* Colin Carter <colincarter@exemail.com.au> [09-10-05 20:15]:
These guys installed the latest 64 bit version of Ubuntu on my laptop. It is nice, and much cheaper than SuSE (like 100% free).
I am sorry, I do not understand your statement. Are you trying to rub our noses? I hope so because you have failed. SuSE is also *free* if you obtain it the same way you obtain ubutu. Please have a good time and a looonnnng journey. Hope to see you next century (or so). -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
Thank you for sharting your experience . My problem is that I need to buy a very good laptop whose performances are comparable to a desktop. I spend by far too many hours working with my currently old desktop and my poor eyes have started to give out. Ideally I should get a laptop for using when I travel to conferences, interviews, etc. and a desktop to work with at home. In practise I cannot affor both ones. A good compromise a laptop/notebook with a large screen (17") and a fast processor, and plenty of RAM and disk space. Nowadays such laptops do exist. But Linux users, in particular SuSE fans (as I am), pay a high toll. Just take alook at the XTREME notebooks af the following website: http://www.xtremenotebooks.com/index.php?section=include&include_type=contactus You can easily figure out the cost of the Nova 476V Accelerator (AMD 3700+) with expanded RAM to 2GB, with 120GB HDD, Dual-layer DVD RW, with wireless and bluetooth Its price comes to $2254 The only "defect" is that the manufacturer only supports Windows. Now compare withthe cost of an equivalent Linux certified laptop. Take a look at the following website: http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux-laptop-lc2540.html I contacted the manufacturer and asked him for the cost of a configuration equivalent to the above mentioned for the XTREME Nova 476V He came up with $4747 (escluding shipping & handling). Since this amount of money is beyond the pale (for a laptop) I resized my configuration and asked him: From: Maura Monville <maura.monville@gmail.com> Reply-To: maura.monville@gmail.com To: Rajesh Goyal <rk@linuxcertified.com> Date: Sep 9, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: quote Linux laptops One extra question. What is the cost of the LC2540 with 3.2 GHz processor, 2GB RAM and without the wireless ethernet but keeping 100 Gb disk and SuSE 9.3 ? From: Rajesh Goyal <rk@linuxcertified.com> To: maura.monville@gmail.com Date: Sep 9, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: Re: quote Linux laptop It will be $3573 with 3.2 GHz processor, 2GB RAM and without the wireless ethernet and with 100 Gb disk and SUSE 9.3. Thanks Rajesh Goyal 408-314-6700 As you all can read , Linux on laptops/notebooks is a luxury , a whim for those who can afford it. Personally I like Linux, its flexibility, particularly SuSE that comes with the generous competent squad of experts offering a lot of help through the e-mail system just for the sake of it. But when it comes to laptops ... you may want to stick to Windows ... SIGH... maura Colin Carter wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 03:29, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Has anyone tried to install SuSe on the notebooks manufactured by XTREME.NOTEBOOKS.COM ? Their wenbsite is as follows: http://www.xtremenotebooks.com/index.php?section=include&include_type=conta ctus
They seem to have 17" monitors and ADM fast processor and up to 2GB RAM and all sort of goodies but they do not support any Linux distribution ... sigh .... sigh ... sigh ...
Thank you for any suggestion. Maura
Hi, you don't state your problem, so my response may not be relevant:
I bought a new TPG laptop and had lots of trouble with the screen. In particular, SuSE would use the correct size as it installed, downloaded (automatically) from the net, and completed set up. Then on boot up everything would go well until suddenly a part of SuSE would say "The screen size appears to be 0x0" and proceed to use same: Ahhhhh!
Nobody responded to my posted question, so I took my laptop along to the SLUG (Sydney Linux Users' Group) where half a dozen guys played with it for four hours. We deduced that something was going wrong within RAM; so I told them that TPG have installed a cheap, crappy video card which uses up 64 MB of RAM, and they pounced on the idea that the hardware was not initiating as fast as the boot code, and that boot code was getting the RAM size before the graphics card had initialised.
So (I am sorry but I don't know how) they built a timeout delay into the boot sequence - giving the graphics card time to wind up. (Incidently, M$ Windows XP boots okay - I guess it is too slow :-)
These guys installed the latest 64 bit version of Ubuntu on my laptop. It is nice, and much cheaper than SuSE (like 100% free).
Good luck, Colin
On Sunday 11 September 2005 12:52, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Thank you for sharting your experience . My problem is that I need to buy a very good laptop whose performances are comparable to a desktop. I spend by far too many hours working with my currently old desktop and my poor eyes have started to give out. Ideally I should get a laptop for using when I travel to conferences, interviews, etc. and a desktop to work with at home. In practise I cannot affor both ones. A good compromise a laptop/notebook with a large screen (17") and a fast processor, and plenty of RAM and disk space. Nowadays such laptops do exist. But Linux users, in particular SuSE fans (as I am), pay a high toll. Just take alook at the XTREME notebooks af the following website:
http://www.xtremenotebooks.com/index.php?section=include&include_type=conta ctus
You can easily figure out the cost of the Nova 476V Accelerator (AMD 3700+) with expanded RAM to 2GB, with 120GB HDD, Dual-layer DVD RW, with wireless and bluetooth Its price comes to $2254 The only "defect" is that the manufacturer only supports Windows.
Now compare withthe cost of an equivalent Linux certified laptop. Take a look at the following website:
http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux-laptop-lc2540.html
I contacted the manufacturer and asked him for the cost of a configuration equivalent to the above mentioned for the XTREME Nova 476V He came up with $4747 (escluding shipping & handling). Since this amount of money is beyond the pale (for a laptop) I resized my configuration and asked him:
From: Maura Monville <maura.monville@gmail.com>
Reply-To: maura.monville@gmail.com To: Rajesh Goyal <rk@linuxcertified.com> Date: Sep 9, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: quote Linux laptops One extra question. What is the cost of the LC2540 with 3.2 GHz processor, 2GB RAM and without the wireless ethernet but keeping 100 Gb disk and SuSE 9.3 ?
From: Rajesh Goyal <rk@linuxcertified.com>
To: maura.monville@gmail.com Date: Sep 9, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: Re: quote Linux laptop It will be $3573 with 3.2 GHz processor, 2GB RAM and without the wireless ethernet and with 100 Gb disk and SUSE 9.3.
Thanks Rajesh Goyal 408-314-6700
As you all can read , Linux on laptops/notebooks is a luxury , a whim for those who can afford it. Personally I like Linux, its flexibility, particularly SuSE that comes with the generous competent squad of experts offering a lot of help through the e-mail system just for the sake of it. But when it comes to laptops ... you may want to stick to Windows ... SIGH...
maura
Hi, hp and IBM supposedly support the principle of Linux (said by both at a SuSE/Novell conference I attended in London in 2004) What do they offer? Regards, Colin PS: Keep your eye on the video card supplied.
I'm in South Africa and we get almost no laptops here preloaded with Linux. All of them are preloaded with Windows XP Home/Pro. And it's not an optional item either. When you ask them to remove the Windows because you don't want it, you pay more. From what I could see locally, only IBM sells laptops with Linux preloaded. Some laptops bought locally don't even work when you don't have the Windows on it shipped by the manufacturer. If they ship XP Home with it you can't load XP Pro or 2000 or 98 it just doesn’t work. I asked one of the local manufacturers (Yes we build laptops in South Africa which are exported to the rest of the world) they said that they are subsidized by MS for every laptop they sell with Windows on it. Basically they don't get paid to put Linux on the laptop... Whether this is true or not I don't know but it makes sense if you think that one company wanted to charge me about $100 more to give me a laptop without Windows. (Windows XP Pro OEM costs about $100 in South Africa). So what did I do? Bought a laptop which I knew supports Linux for about $2200 (Centrino 1.7, 512MB RAM, 60GB HDD, WiFi) which came with Windows, removed Windows and installed SuSE 9.3. Albert -----Original Message----- From: Maura Edelweiss Monville [mailto:memonvil@artsci.wustl.edu] Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 04:52 To: Colin Carter Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE on XTREME notebooks Thank you for sharting your experience . My problem is that I need to buy a very good laptop whose performances are comparable to a desktop. I spend by far too many hours working with my currently old desktop and my poor eyes have started to give out. Ideally I should get a laptop for using when I travel to conferences, interviews, etc. and a desktop to work with at home. In practise I cannot affor both ones. A good compromise a laptop/notebook with a large screen (17") and a fast processor, and plenty of RAM and disk space. Nowadays such laptops do exist. But Linux users, in particular SuSE fans (as I am), pay a high toll. Just take alook at the XTREME notebooks af the following website: http://www.xtremenotebooks.com/index.php?section=include&include_type=contac tus You can easily figure out the cost of the Nova 476V Accelerator (AMD 3700+) with expanded RAM to 2GB, with 120GB HDD, Dual-layer DVD RW, with wireless and bluetooth Its price comes to $2254 The only "defect" is that the manufacturer only supports Windows. Now compare withthe cost of an equivalent Linux certified laptop. Take a look at the following website: http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux-laptop-lc2540.html I contacted the manufacturer and asked him for the cost of a configuration equivalent to the above mentioned for the XTREME Nova 476V He came up with $4747 (escluding shipping & handling). Since this amount of money is beyond the pale (for a laptop) I resized my configuration and asked him: From: Maura Monville <maura.monville@gmail.com> Reply-To: maura.monville@gmail.com To: Rajesh Goyal <rk@linuxcertified.com> Date: Sep 9, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: quote Linux laptops One extra question. What is the cost of the LC2540 with 3.2 GHz processor, 2GB RAM and without the wireless ethernet but keeping 100 Gb disk and SuSE 9.3 ? From: Rajesh Goyal <rk@linuxcertified.com> To: maura.monville@gmail.com Date: Sep 9, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: Re: quote Linux laptop It will be $3573 with 3.2 GHz processor, 2GB RAM and without the wireless ethernet and with 100 Gb disk and SUSE 9.3. Thanks Rajesh Goyal 408-314-6700 As you all can read , Linux on laptops/notebooks is a luxury , a whim for those who can afford it. Personally I like Linux, its flexibility, particularly SuSE that comes with the generous competent squad of experts offering a lot of help through the e-mail system just for the sake of it. But when it comes to laptops ... you may want to stick to Windows ... SIGH... maura Colin Carter wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 03:29, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Has anyone tried to install SuSe on the notebooks manufactured by XTREME.NOTEBOOKS.COM ? Their wenbsite is as follows: http://www.xtremenotebooks.com/index.php?section=include&include_type=cont a ctus
They seem to have 17" monitors and ADM fast processor and up to 2GB RAM and all sort of goodies but they do not support any Linux distribution ... sigh .... sigh ... sigh ...
Thank you for any suggestion. Maura
Hi, you don't state your problem, so my response may not be relevant:
I bought a new TPG laptop and had lots of trouble with the screen. In particular, SuSE would use the correct size as it installed, downloaded (automatically) from the net, and completed set up. Then on boot up everything would go well until suddenly a part of SuSE would say "The screen size appears to be 0x0" and proceed to use same: Ahhhhh!
Nobody responded to my posted question, so I took my laptop along to the SLUG (Sydney Linux Users' Group) where half a dozen guys played with it for four hours. We deduced that something was going wrong within RAM; so I told them that TPG have installed a cheap, crappy video card which uses up 64 MB of RAM, and they pounced on the idea that the hardware was not initiating as fast as the boot code, and that boot code was getting the RAM size before the graphics card had initialised.
So (I am sorry but I don't know how) they built a timeout delay into the boot sequence - giving the graphics card time to wind up. (Incidently, M$ Windows XP boots okay - I guess it is too slow :-)
These guys installed the latest 64 bit version of Ubuntu on my laptop. It is nice, and much cheaper than SuSE (like 100% free).
Good luck, Colin
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Could you get SuSE 100%working on your laptop ? My problem is time. I hasve installed many successive SuSE versions on desktops. I remember the 1st installation was very painful. I hope I can find someone who can help me test SuSE in the case I decide to buy a laptop that comes with Widows and then replace it by Linux. Maura Albert wrote:
I'm in South Africa and we get almost no laptops here preloaded with Linux. All of them are preloaded with Windows XP Home/Pro. And it's not an optional item either. When you ask them to remove the Windows because you don't want it, you pay more. From what I could see locally, only IBM sells laptops with Linux preloaded. Some laptops bought locally don't even work when you don't have the Windows on it shipped by the manufacturer. If they ship XP Home with it you can't load XP Pro or 2000 or 98 it just doesn’t work.
I asked one of the local manufacturers (Yes we build laptops in South Africa which are exported to the rest of the world) they said that they are subsidized by MS for every laptop they sell with Windows on it. Basically they don't get paid to put Linux on the laptop...
Whether this is true or not I don't know but it makes sense if you think that one company wanted to charge me about $100 more to give me a laptop without Windows. (Windows XP Pro OEM costs about $100 in South Africa).
So what did I do? Bought a laptop which I knew supports Linux for about $2200 (Centrino 1.7, 512MB RAM, 60GB HDD, WiFi) which came with Windows, removed Windows and installed SuSE 9.3.
Albert
-----Original Message----- From: Maura Edelweiss Monville [mailto:memonvil@artsci.wustl.edu] Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 04:52 To: Colin Carter Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE on XTREME notebooks
Thank you for sharting your experience . My problem is that I need to buy a very good laptop whose performances are comparable to a desktop. I spend by far too many hours working with my currently old desktop and my poor eyes have started to give out. Ideally I should get a laptop for using when I travel to conferences, interviews, etc. and a desktop to work with at home. In practise I cannot affor both ones. A good compromise a laptop/notebook with a large screen (17") and a fast processor, and plenty of RAM and disk space. Nowadays such laptops do exist. But Linux users, in particular SuSE fans (as I am), pay a high toll. Just take alook at the XTREME notebooks af the following website:
http://www.xtremenotebooks.com/index.php?section=include&include_type=contac tus
You can easily figure out the cost of the Nova 476V Accelerator (AMD 3700+) with expanded RAM to 2GB, with 120GB HDD, Dual-layer DVD RW, with wireless and bluetooth Its price comes to $2254 The only "defect" is that the manufacturer only supports Windows.
Now compare withthe cost of an equivalent Linux certified laptop. Take a look at the following website:
http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux-laptop-lc2540.html
I contacted the manufacturer and asked him for the cost of a configuration equivalent to the above mentioned for the XTREME Nova 476V He came up with $4747 (escluding shipping & handling). Since this amount of money is beyond the pale (for a laptop) I resized my configuration and asked him:
From: Maura Monville <maura.monville@gmail.com>
Reply-To: maura.monville@gmail.com To: Rajesh Goyal <rk@linuxcertified.com> Date: Sep 9, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: quote Linux laptops One extra question. What is the cost of the LC2540 with 3.2 GHz processor, 2GB RAM and without the wireless ethernet but keeping 100 Gb disk and SuSE 9.3 ?
From: Rajesh Goyal <rk@linuxcertified.com>
To: maura.monville@gmail.com Date: Sep 9, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: Re: quote Linux laptop It will be $3573 with 3.2 GHz processor, 2GB RAM and without the wireless ethernet and with 100 Gb disk and SUSE 9.3.
Thanks Rajesh Goyal 408-314-6700
As you all can read , Linux on laptops/notebooks is a luxury , a whim for those who can afford it. Personally I like Linux, its flexibility, particularly SuSE that comes with the generous competent squad of experts offering a lot of help through the e-mail system just for the sake of it. But when it comes to laptops ... you may want to stick to Windows ... SIGH...
maura
Colin Carter wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 03:29, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Has anyone tried to install SuSe on the notebooks manufactured by XTREME.NOTEBOOKS.COM ? Their wenbsite is as follows: http://www.xtremenotebooks.com/index.php?section=include&include_type=cont
a
ctus
They seem to have 17" monitors and ADM fast processor and up to 2GB RAM and all sort of goodies but they do not support any Linux distribution ... sigh .... sigh ... sigh
...
Thank you for any suggestion. Maura
Hi, you don't state your problem, so my response may not be relevant:
I bought a new TPG laptop and had lots of trouble with the screen. In particular, SuSE would use the correct size as it installed, downloaded (automatically) from the net, and completed set up. Then on boot up everything would go well until suddenly a part of SuSE would say "The screen size appears to be 0x0" and proceed to use same: Ahhhhh!
Nobody responded to my posted question, so I took my laptop along to the SLUG (Sydney Linux Users' Group) where half a dozen guys played with it for four hours. We deduced that something was going wrong within RAM; so I told them that TPG have installed a cheap, crappy video card which uses up 64 MB of RAM, and they pounced on the idea that the hardware was not initiating as fast as the boot code, and that boot code was getting the RAM size before the graphics card had initialised.
So (I am sorry but I don't know how) they built a timeout delay into the boot sequence - giving the graphics card time to wind up. (Incidently, M$ Windows XP boots okay - I guess it is too slow :-)
These guys installed the latest 64 bit version of Ubuntu on my laptop. It is nice, and much cheaper than SuSE (like 100% free).
Good luck, Colin
On 9/11/05, Maura Edelweiss Monville <memonvil@artsci.wustl.edu> wrote:
Could you get SuSE 100%working on your laptop ? My problem is time. I hasve installed many successive SuSE versions on desktops. I remember the 1st installation was very painful. I hope I can find someone who can help me test SuSE in the case I decide to buy a laptop that comes with Widows and then replace it by Linux.
I received a Dell D610 from my employer and it had XP Pro on it when I took charge of it. I immediately put SUSE 9.3 on it and everything worked.. even the WiFI. It's a nice little machine. It's got a 1.7ghz Centrino in it. I have no issue with it. :) So you might check out getting a Dell.. as much as that pains me to say. -Ben -- Atheism is a non-prophet organization.
On Sunday 11 September 2005 2:35 am, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
On 9/11/05, Maura Edelweiss Monville <memonvil@artsci.wustl.edu> wrote:
Could you get SuSE 100%working on your laptop ? My problem is time. I hasve installed many successive SuSE versions on desktops. I remember the 1st installation was very painful. I hope I can find someone who can help me test SuSE in the case I decide to buy a laptop that comes with Widows and then replace it by Linux.
I received a Dell D610 from my employer and it had XP Pro on it when I took charge of it. I immediately put SUSE 9.3 on it and everything worked.. even the WiFI. It's a nice little machine. It's got a 1.7ghz Centrino in it. I have no issue with it. :) So you might check out getting a Dell.. as much as that pains me to say.
-Ben
My advice is to stay away from the latest/greatest laptop if you expect 100% SUSE Linux compatibility these days. Get a model that is known to work because people can report 100% success with all the components; video and LCD, modem, wireless, USB, firewire, DVD/CD writing, infrared, serial, parallel, etc. This may take more work on your part to find that laptop. I seem to remember that you need a very powerful machine to do your work. Don't forget to check www.linux-laptop.net and tuxmobile.org (aka linux-laptop.org ?) for lists of machines and reports on how they work. Probably cheaper (time, money, frustration) just to buy it with WinXP Pro and then shrink that partition down while installing SUSE to the minimum you think you'd need to use it _if_ you ever do. Never know when WinXP may come in handy in a pinch due to someone else's requirements you need to honor to get paid. It can also be used as a check to troubleshoot problems encountered in Linux; is it hardware or software, etc. I know the decision to get a new laptop/desktop with or without Win-whichever will be a very tough one for me. I'll have to decide by how much time/money I'm wasting trying to decide whether or not to do it. Stan
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