[opensuse] ... Huh ..., my app-windows lost the frame with the min/max/close buttons?!
Hi all, Yesterday I recovered from two freezes by Gnome 2.32 on a new OS 11.4 within one hour. I decided to carry on with KDE4. I am not sure how it happened, but I noticed that the bar on top of the menu bar, actually the top part of the frame, disappeared. Some windows cannot be resized by dragging a corner ( I mostly drag the bottom right corner). I can only close windows by the menu - file - Close/Quit, or when there is no menu, only by using F4. How did it happen? Has it to do with desktop settings. Very annoying. Tried InternetSearch with goggle/ixquick, no clear answers found. The other point is, why does Gnome freeze up? I also tried a Gnome 3 installation - it just lost the whole desktop; I first suspected the nVidia, but it worked fine the last 3 years with older openSuSE versions. Got KDE3 running, but Gnome was dead. The Gnome with 11.4 is quite usable for me (matter of taste); similar to the MacBook I use as well. I personally prefer the Gnome 2.32 on 11.4 to KDE4 for its 'simplicity'. I will try Gnome 3 on a VirtualBox later - looks very different to previous Gnome - not sure if I like it. :-( Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 17 Jun 2011 22:33:12 LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:
Hi all,
Yesterday I recovered from two freezes by Gnome 2.32 on a new OS 11.4 within one hour. I decided to carry on with KDE4. I am not sure how it happened, but I noticed that the bar on top of the menu bar, actually the top part of the frame, disappeared. Some windows cannot be resized by dragging a corner ( I mostly drag the bottom right corner). I can only close windows by the menu - file - Close/Quit, or when there is no menu, only by using F4.
How did it happen? Has it to do with desktop settings. Very annoying. Tried InternetSearch with goggle/ixquick, no clear answers found.
Sounds like your window manager is hosed. Are you using kwin? Did you choose compiz? Perhaps trying GNOME resulted in compiz or metacity being autostarted in your KDE session? If you're not sure, check the process list for those 3 processes. Then we can figure out how to fix that window manager, or revert it to kwin. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
*Original sent by / Original von / Oorspronklik van:* wstephenson@suse.de - Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:19:39 +0200
Hi all,
Yesterday I recovered from two freezes by Gnome 2.32 on a new OS 11.4 within one hour. I decided to carry on with KDE4. I am not sure how it happened, but I noticed that the bar on top of the menu bar, actually the top part of the frame, disappeared. Some windows cannot be resized by dragging a corner ( I mostly drag the bottom right corner). I can only close windows by the menu - file - Close/Quit, or when there is no menu, only by using F4.
How did it happen? Has it to do with desktop settings. Very annoying. Tried InternetSearch with goggle/ixquick, no clear answers found. Sounds like your window manager is hosed. Are you using kwin? Did you choose compiz? Perhaps trying GNOME resulted in compiz or metacity being autostarted in your KDE session? If you're not sure, check the process list for those 3
On Friday 17 Jun 2011 22:33:12 LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote: processes. Then we can figure out how to fix that window manager, or revert it to kwin.
Will
*This Reply from / Antwort von / Antwoord van:* LLLActive@GMX.Net - 2011-06-18 - 23:55:32 +0200 Thanks for replying Will and Robert, Will, I am now on another system, the freezing system gave up I think. I can not get logged in for more than a few minutes now. Your suggestion about the window manager made me think, because two things are occurring that may be related. First, I am suspicious of an older data HDD with a Reiser FS that seemed to roll back even after a clean shutdown. It started two weeks ago. I then started planning a new system just in case. Today I actually finished a HW-RAID 10 server because of the data loss hazard on the freezing system. Second, I am just wondering. Besides the probably faltering older Reiser FS that may cause such problems, it may also be my habit to soft linking the /home/<user-directory> directories to the /home/Data/<user-directory>. I always put my user directories and data on a separate HDD than the OS. I then mount it under /home/Data, and just link the older user directories into the new system when I upgrade. I can thus test various systems and always use the same user environment. I keep the previous setups and configs on the new system in this way. The directories for Gnome and KDE4 are there from the previous OpenSuSE 11.1 I used. It may be part of the problem. I am going to duplicate the previous home directory, then clean the gnome and kde configurations. Then I can find out if it has to do with old configuration setups. I will also create a completely new user and see if the system is stable then, just to rule out incompatibilities with 11.1. I have not had problems before with new installed systems and the old /home/<link_to_user_directory> method. I'll come back to the list when I found out something. :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday, June 18, 2011 06:19:39 AM Will Stephenson wrote:
On Friday 17 Jun 2011 22:33:12 LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:
Hi all,
Yesterday I recovered from two freezes by Gnome 2.32 on a new OS 11.4
within one hour. I decided to carry on with KDE4. I am not sure how it happened, but I noticed that the bar on top of the menu bar, actually the top part of the frame, disappeared. Some windows cannot be resized by dragging a corner ( I mostly drag the bottom right corner). I can only close windows by the menu - file - Close/Quit, or when there is no menu, only by using F4.
How did it happen? Has it to do with desktop settings. Very annoying. Tried InternetSearch with goggle/ixquick, no clear answers found.
Sounds like your window manager is hosed. Are you using kwin? Did you choose compiz? Perhaps trying GNOME resulted in compiz or metacity being autostarted in your KDE session? If you're not sure, check the process list for those 3 processes. Then we can figure out how to fix that window manager, or revert it to kwin.
Will
Assuming you have a system with more than one desktop evironment (KDE, GNOME) could consider this a workaround. If you was working on GNOME 2.32 enviroment with Desktop Effects and you want to go to the KDE session You should uncheck Desktop Effects first before switching desktop session from GNOME to KDE. This way seems the windows frames do not disappear anymore (including minimize, resize, close options on right top corner). And you can enjoy both desktop with no important drawback. I mean I can run Grid effects, Cube switch, Cover switch, Independent Workspaces, Activities. I cannot remember where I read it. Compiz-Fusion Gnome session make some negative influences over KDE windows frames when is activated. Best, -- Ricardo Chung | openSUSE Linux Ambassador Panama Li-f-e | KDE 4.6.00r6 | GNOME2 | GNOME3 | Nouveau-Mesa3D experimental -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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