[opensuse] no more flash support?
Hey, I just noticed after reading through some of the threads and then clicking on a link, that Adobe Flash is no longer going to be supported on Linux after version 11.2. See the link here: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ What are the implications of this? The reason I found out was that I was using flash-player-11.2.202.238-2.3.1, and this was not able to play flash videos on bbc or some other sites, so I needed to download flash-plugin-11.2.202.243-release.x86_64 direct from Adobe. I haven't tested it yet, but I notice that this is "flash-plugin" whereas the one from the non-oss repositories is "flash-player". In any case, what does this mean for being able to view videos on the web in the future using open source programs? Google Chrome works fine, but suppose they decide to stop supporting linux at some point in the future. Open source is the only option that we have that maintains our freedom. Is anyone trying to develop an open-source clone of flash so that the internet will remain open? -- G.O. Box #1: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.1 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | ATI Radeon HD 3300 | 16GB Box #2: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.1 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB Laptop: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.1 | Core i7-2620M | 64 | Intel HD Graphics 3000 | 8GB learning openSUSE and loving it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, G.O. wrote:
Hey, I just noticed after reading through some of the threads and then clicking on a link, that Adobe Flash is no longer going to be supported on Linux after version 11.2.
See the link here: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
What are the implications of this? The reason I found out was that I was using flash-player-11.2.202.238-2.3.1, and this was not able to play flash videos on bbc or some other sites, so I needed to download flash-plugin-11.2.202.243-release.x86_64 direct from Adobe. I haven't tested it yet, but I notice that this is "flash-plugin" whereas the one from the non-oss repositories is "flash-player".
In any case, what does this mean for being able to view videos on the web in the future using open source programs? Google Chrome works fine, but suppose they decide to stop supporting linux at some point in the future. Open source is the only option that we have that maintains our freedom. Is anyone trying to develop an open-source clone of flash so that the internet will remain open?
Yes. Try the 'lightspark' stuff (incl. plugin) from packman. It seems to work often, better than 'gnash', but still fails on quite some pages. Well, there's hope, in that, gnash, libswfdec and that flash dies out anyway, the sooner, the better. ATM, I still use flash-player-11.2.202.238-27.1.x86_64, but that's just because of some site or three, IIRC e.g. u-pipe works with lightspark. HTH, -dnh -- I refer to garlic as "the element without which life as we know it would be impossible." Personally I believe that the garlic myth was started by vampires as a way of enhancing the flavor of their food. -- Shmuel Metz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday October 10 2012 02:15:03 David Haller wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, G.O. wrote:
Hey, I just noticed after reading through some of the threads and then clicking on a link, that Adobe Flash is no longer going to be supported on Linux after version 11.2.
See the link here: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
What are the implications of this? The reason I found out was that I was using flash-player-11.2.202.238-2.3.1, and this was not able to play flash videos on bbc or some other sites, so I needed to download flash-plugin-11.2.202.243-release.x86_64 direct from Adobe. I haven't tested it yet, but I notice that this is "flash-plugin" whereas the one from the non-oss repositories is "flash-player".
In any case, what does this mean for being able to view videos on the web in the future using open source programs? Google Chrome works fine, but suppose they decide to stop supporting linux at some point in the future. Open source is the only option that we have that maintains our freedom. Is anyone trying to develop an open-source clone of flash so that the internet will remain open?
Yes. Try the 'lightspark' stuff (incl. plugin) from packman. It seems to work often, better than 'gnash', but still fails on quite some pages. Well, there's hope, in that, gnash, libswfdec and that flash dies out anyway, the sooner, the better.
Bad news. I too tried lightspark-0.6.0.1-4.2 with Opera on OpenSUSE 12.1. It crashed several times on youtube. Not ready for use. So I use gnash, it works perfectly on youtube. But nowhere else :( Moreover for youtube, I also use "youtube-dl" downloader, so I get the file and play it with a much more powerfull player (xine, vlc, mplayer...) . Dsant, from France -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Neither lightspark nor gnash can handle the vmware vcenter web client. Can't load the vcenter web client at all, not merely a glitch you could live with or work around. Dead stop. Install real flash or reboot into Windows and run the 500MB native windows vcenter client app. The future is nice and all but some of us have work to do, and I don't get to tell vmware to "fix" their vcenter code and I don't get to tell my company (without a lot better reason) throw away the $150,000 vmware cluster and use something else. -- bkw On 10/10/2012 4:03 AM, Dsant wrote:
On Wednesday October 10 2012 02:15:03 David Haller wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, G.O. wrote:
Hey, I just noticed after reading through some of the threads and then clicking on a link, that Adobe Flash is no longer going to be supported on Linux after version 11.2.
See the link here: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
What are the implications of this? The reason I found out was that I was using flash-player-11.2.202.238-2.3.1, and this was not able to play flash videos on bbc or some other sites, so I needed to download flash-plugin-11.2.202.243-release.x86_64 direct from Adobe. I haven't tested it yet, but I notice that this is "flash-plugin" whereas the one from the non-oss repositories is "flash-player".
In any case, what does this mean for being able to view videos on the web in the future using open source programs? Google Chrome works fine, but suppose they decide to stop supporting linux at some point in the future. Open source is the only option that we have that maintains our freedom. Is anyone trying to develop an open-source clone of flash so that the internet will remain open?
Yes. Try the 'lightspark' stuff (incl. plugin) from packman. It seems to work often, better than 'gnash', but still fails on quite some pages. Well, there's hope, in that, gnash, libswfdec and that flash dies out anyway, the sooner, the better.
Bad news. I too tried lightspark-0.6.0.1-4.2 with Opera on OpenSUSE 12.1. It crashed several times on youtube. Not ready for use.
So I use gnash, it works perfectly on youtube. But nowhere else :(
Moreover for youtube, I also use "youtube-dl" downloader, so I get the file and play it with a much more powerfull player (xine, vlc, mplayer...) .
Dsant, from France
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G.O.
In any case, what does this mean for being able to view videos on the web in the future using open source programs?
Flash is being phased out by html 5 video (even Abode is throwing in the towel) and no longer installed on a lot of platforms. I am not sorry to see it go- it is a resource hungry and insecure piece of crap.
Open source is the only option that we have that maintains our freedom. Is anyone trying to develop an open-source clone of flash so that the internet will remain open?
Gnash[1]. It is in the repo. Footnotes: [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ -- "World domination. Fast" (By Linus Torvalds)
El 09/10/12 20:33, G.O. escribió:
Hey, I just noticed after reading through some of the threads and then clicking on a link, that Adobe Flash is no longer going to be supported on Linux after version 11.2.
See the link here: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
What are the implications of this?
The implications of this are that flash is going away. its replacement is html5 video. It will be sooner or later phased out on other platforms too. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Updates for openSUSE 11.4 11.4-0
zypper lu
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
S | Repository | Name | Current
Version | Available Version | Arch
--+----------------------------------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+-----
v | Updates for openSUSE 11.4 11.4-0 | flash-player |
11.2.202.238-20.1 | 11.2.202.243-23.1 | i586
v | Updates for openSUSE 11.4 11.4-0 | flash-player-kde4 |
11.2.202.238-20.1 | 11.2.202.243-23.1 | i586
http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
says
Linux Mozilla, Firefox, SeaMonkey (Flash Player 11.2 is the last
supported Flash Player version for Linux. Adobe will continue to
provide security updates.) 11.2.202.243
Chrome (Pepper-based Flash Player) 11.4.31.110
so the release is there.
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:33 AM, G.O.
Hey, I just noticed after reading through some of the threads and then clicking on a link, that Adobe Flash is no longer going to be supported on Linux after version 11.2. See the link here: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ What are the implications of this? The reason I found out was that I was using flash-player-11.2.202.238-2.3.1, and this was not able to play flash videos on bbc or some other sites, so I needed to download flash-plugin-11.2.202.243-release.x86_64 direct from Adobe. I haven't tested it yet, but I notice that this is "flash-plugin" whereas the one from the non-oss repositories is "flash-player". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
also see it on 12.1
rpm -aq | grep -i flash
flash-player-kde4-11.2.202.243-30.1.i586
pullin-flash-player-12.1-9.1.i586
flash-player-11.2.202.243-30.1.i586
cat /etc/SuSE-release
openSUSE 12.1 (i586)
VERSION = 12.1
CODENAME = Asparagus
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:21 PM, cagsm
Updates for openSUSE 11.4 11.4-0 --+----------------------------------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+----- v | Updates for openSUSE 11.4 11.4-0 | flash-player | 11.2.202.238-20.1 | 11.2.202.243-23.1 | i586 v | Updates for openSUSE 11.4 11.4-0 | flash-player-kde4 | 11.2.202.238-20.1 | 11.2.202.243-23.1 | i586 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 23:24 +0200, cagsm wrote:
also see it on 12.1 rpm -aq | grep -i flash flash-player-kde4-11.2.202.243-30.1.i586 pullin-flash-player-12.1-9.1.i586 flash-player-11.2.202.243-30.1.i586 cat /etc/SuSE-release openSUSE 12.1 (i586) VERSION = 12.1 CODENAME = Asparagus
awilliam@linux-nysu:~> rpm -qa | grep flash pullin-flash-player-12.1-6.5.1.x86_64 flash-player-11.2.202.243-1.6.1.x86_64 flash-player-gnome-11.2.202.243-1.6.1.x86_64 awilliam@linux-nysu:~> cat /etc/SuSE-release openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) VERSION = 12.2 CODENAME = Mantis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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