John Andersen wrote:

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Joe Sloan wrote:

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hans.linux@igi-alliance.com wrote:

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dear all I am planning to have a new openSUSE10.3 server and am gong to have a powerful hardware to run with. I am thinking about Intel Quad Core Q6600 and memory 4GB. Question is, is Quad Core Q6600 supported by opensuse 10.3? or do i have to install 64 bit version?

I've got SLES 10 running on a system with dual quad core CPUs and top sees 8 CPUs, so I imagine OS 10.3 would have no problem either as it's running an even newer kernel.

As to your question about 64 bit, it's not an either/or proposition, opensuse is available in 32 or 64 bit versions.

X86-64 is the version for quad-core machines. (Don't load the 64bit kernel, thats a different animal.

er... you're not too far from the truth. The standard suse kernel is the right one for quad core CPUs. Either the i386 or x86_64 kernel can handle multi core just fine. The i386 kernel will run on 32 or 64-bit machines, while the x86_64 kernel will only run on the amd64 and intel emt64 architectures. Perhaps you're thinking of itanium, which is 64-bit only, end of story. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Hans Witvliet wrote:

On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 23:54 -0700, John Andersen wrote:

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Quad Core is so absurdly over powered for a "server" that you's have to try hard to screw it up.

Try running xen, with XP as a client ;-)

I run Vmware with clients being Windows 95 thru VISTA Ultimate, as well as Ubuntu, FreeBSD. Some of my virtual machines emulate dual processors, some of these VMs are 64bit installations and all of them communicate with each other using customized TCP streams. All this on a lowly Core 2 Dual Dell Laptop running OpenSUSE 10.3 (x86_64.) It would cost me blood to do this all in hardware, and I haven't got the time to play with a half working Xen. Sometimes you just have to spend the money and get things done. In our main server at work we have two virtual machines (Vmware Server) running customized applications for remote clients. It run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64. I haven't had a single problem with X86_64 since I learned about the "nohpet" boot parameter. (Core Two products tend to have flaky timers). Even the multi-media stuff works well after you by-pass the Novell imposed broken-ness via Pacman. -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

John Andersen wrote:

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Joe Sloan wrote:

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Some here will say that they've gotten things to work on 64 bit, but I would only recommend the 64 bit version on big servers.

Joe

You over state this Joe. There _MAY_ still be a few oddball things that are not available in x86_64, but in those cases the 32bit packages work just fine.

I'm sure things are getting better in 64-bit land, I'm just cautious.

I've run nothing but X86_64for the last two years and it all works. Especially in a server. It all works perfectly.

I just reinstalled SLES 10 32 bit on a server which I had previously set up for a customer with SLES 10 64 bit, and I did it on my own dime, because it was my own ignorance that caused me to install it as 64-bit initially. One key application from a 3rd party simply would not work, while it worked just fine on my desktop which was 32 bit. After too much time wasted, I bit the bullet and cut my losses, backing up the server on a usb drive and installing SLES 10 32 bit. Immediately, everything worked. On my own desktop I had open suse 64 bit installed, but there were some oddities with multimedia: some audio files which played fine on my 32 bit system, sounded like alvin and the chipmunks on my 64 bit system. Some video clips which played fine on the 32 bit system, were distorted on the 64 bit system. On the plus side, I'm looking after a nice HP DL 580 at work, with quad CPUs and 16 GB RAM, which is happily running SLES 10 64 bit - but it's all generic services and open source software: mail, ftp, time service, mysql, etc. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Sam Clemens wrote:

Joe Sloan wrote:

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One key application from a 3rd party simply would not work, while it worked just fine on my desktop which was 32 bit. After too much time wasted, I bit the bullet and cut my losses, backing up the server on a usb drive and installing SLES 10 32 bit. Immediately, everything worked.

Sounds like an appropriate use of a small virtual machine installation to run those few flaky apps.

That "flaky app" was the main purpose of the server, but yes, in other scenarios, that would be good advice indeed. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

I've had 10.3 running on a Q6700 based Clevo notebook without issue for over a month. All seems well. -----Original Message----- From: Sam Clemens [mailto:clemens.sam1@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 3:12 AM To: opensuse Subject: Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.3 supports Quad Core Q6600?? hans.linux@igi-alliance.com wrote:

dear all I am planning to have a new openSUSE10.3 server and am going to have a powerful hardware to run with. I am thinking about Intel Quad Core Q6600 and memory 4GB. Question is, is Quad Core Q6600 supported by opensuse 10.3? or do i have to install 64 bit version?

From my understanding, all multi-CPU and multi-core *x86 based systems are supported. If you're going to have 4 GB, install the PAE kernal (physical address extention), or you're not going to see nor be able to access all 4 GB of RAM. Just to make sure... Burn a live CD, and boot up a display Q6600 system, and then look at $ top and/or $ dmesg | less to see what you can see. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org