Followed the discussion about "Suse 9.3 DNS server setup" and found in one of the possible solutions the sentence "1) disable dhcp on you router". For me my router is something that I hung at a wall, that is connected with the ADSL phone line and my computer. It works and as a matter of fact I do not know what it does. Is there some way to find out what the router does? If I could disable dhcp, how could I restore it. Where to find out more about the innards of routers. Google was not the solution to learn something about routers in my case.
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 08:24:39PM +0700, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Followed the discussion about "Suse 9.3 DNS server setup" and found in one of the possible solutions the sentence "1) disable dhcp on you router".
For me my router is something that I hung at a wall, that is connected with the ADSL phone line and my computer. It works and as a matter of fact I do not know what it does. Is there some way to find out what the router does? If I could disable dhcp, how could I restore it. Where to find out more about the innards of routers. Google was not the solution to learn something about routers in my case.
DHCP is a mechanism by which machines can connect to a network without you having to allocate them an IP address manually. One machine (the DHCP server) assumes the job of handing out IP addresses to anyone who asks for them, making sure that no two machines have the same address. Most ADSL routers have the ability to be a DHCP server, so that you don't have to set the IP address of your computer (or any other computers that you connect to it). However, if you want to fix the IP address of your computer, it might cause a problem. Most ADSL routers can be configured over a web interface. Work out the IP address of your router by running "route" on your machine, and write down the IP address in the "gateway" column of the line whose destination is "default". Then try pointing your web browser at http://ip_address/. If this doesn't work, you will need to post more details on the list - in particular, what make and model is your ADSL router? For more info on what routers do, how DHCP works, etc., you need to read some of the networking HOWTOs, and/or some books on basic TCP/IP networking. HTH... -- David Smith Work Email: Dave.Smith@st.com STMicroelectronics Home Email: David.Smith@ds-electronics.co.uk Bristol, England GPG Key: 0xF13192F2
On Monday 15 August 2005 20:37, David SMITH wrote:
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 08:24:39PM +0700, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
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DHCP is a mechanism by which machines can connect to a network without you having to allocate them an IP address manually. One machine (the DHCP server) assumes the job of handing out IP addresses to anyone who asks for them, making sure that no two machines have the same address.
Most ADSL routers have the ability to be a DHCP server, so that you don't have to set the IP address of your computer (or any other computers that you connect to it). However, if you want to fix the IP address of your computer, it might cause a problem.
Most ADSL routers can be configured over a web interface. Work out the IP address of your router by running "route" on your machine, and write down the IP address in the "gateway" column of the line whose destination is "default". Then try pointing your web browser at http://ip_address/. If this doesn't work, you will need to post more details on the list - in particular, what make and model is your ADSL router?
For more info on what routers do, how DHCP works, etc., you need to read some of the networking HOWTOs, and/or some books on basic TCP/IP networking.
Dear David My router is an Aztech 4 port router, DSL3100R. Manual not worth looking at. Totally useless. Used route and got under the default the ip_address 10.0.0.2 (was also mentioned in the manual). In my browser I get the request for the username and password for my "Home Gateway" at that address. During instalation by some ignorants from the telephone company I got an username (only numbers) and I gave in my password. I assume that these data are to put into the prompt window but there is no activity and I get a new prompt asking me again for username and password. During install they also wrote me down VPI=1 and VCI=33. Those are used broadbands of my telephone company.
At 10:53 AM 8/15/05, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
My router is an Aztech 4 port router, DSL3100R. Manual not worth looking at. Totally useless. Used route and got under the default the ip_address 10.0.0.2 (was also mentioned in the manual). In my browser I get the request for the username and password for my "Home Gateway" at that address.
Enter the username/password from the "useless" manual. By default the username is admin, and the password is blank.
* Frank Bax <fbax@sympatico.ca> [08-15-05 10:29]:
Enter the username/password from the "useless" manual.
By default the username is admin, and the password is blank.
And there is normally a reset button which will restore default logon name and password. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery
On Monday 15 August 2005 22:57, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Frank Bax <fbax@sympatico.ca> [08-15-05 10:29]:
Enter the username/password from the "useless" manual.
By default the username is admin, and the password is blank.
And there is normally a reset button which will restore default logon name and password.
;-) And that is just the button I am not planning to use for the time being. It could be that I am than out of contact with the valuable Suse list ;-)
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 23:26 +0700, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
;-) And that is just the button I am not planning to use for the time being. It could be that I am than out of contact with the valuable Suse list ;-)
What I would do if I'm in your situation is.... - calling in the DSL provider to ask how to disable/enable DHCP. They would give you the default username/password. If the username/password has got changed somehow, they'll ask you to push "the button". But they at least should be able to (They have to) navigate you to recover internet accessibility to exchange email in this community. That's their responsibility. Toshi
On Monday 15 August 2005 22:26, Frank Bax wrote:
At 10:53 AM 8/15/05, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
My router is an Aztech 4 port router, DSL3100R. Manual not worth looking at. Totally useless. Used route and got under the default the ip_address 10.0.0.2 (was also mentioned in the manual). In my browser I get the request for the username and password for my "Home Gateway" at that address.
Enter the username/password from the "useless" manual.
;-). The useless manual only states: "Under login settings, please key in your username and password and click Connect"
By default the username is admin, and the password is blank.
admin keyed in and username kept blank. Does not let me have the login setting page which I should get according to my manual. Used already more words as the manual ;-). Remember that the fellows from the telkom service also used admin. Cannot remember if the username was blank but I assume you were right. Total text of the setup in the manual 7 lines.
On Monday 15 August 2005 23:23, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
On Monday 15 August 2005 22:26, Frank Bax wrote:
At 10:53 AM 8/15/05, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
My router is an Aztech 4 port router, DSL3100R. Manual not worth looking at. Totally useless. Used route and got under the default the ip_address 10.0.0.2 (was also mentioned in the manual). In my browser I get the request for the username and password for my "Home Gateway" at that address.
Enter the username/password from the "useless" manual.
;-). The useless manual only states: "Under login settings, please key in your username and password and click Connect"
By default the username is admin, and the password is blank.
admin keyed in and username kept blank. sorry. Caffeine depleted. Username ADMIN and password BLANK did the job.
----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Brouerius van Nidek" <constant@indo.net.id> To: <suse-linux-e@suse.com> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] disable dhcp on you router?
On Monday 15 August 2005 22:26, Frank Bax wrote:
At 10:53 AM 8/15/05, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
My router is an Aztech 4 port router, DSL3100R. Manual not worth looking at. Totally useless. Used route and got under the default the ip_address 10.0.0.2 (was also mentioned in the manual). In my browser I get the request for the username and password for my "Home Gateway" at that address.
Enter the username/password from the "useless" manual.
;-). The useless manual only states: "Under login settings, please key in your username and password and click Connect"
By default the username is admin, and the password is blank.
admin keyed in and username kept blank. Does not let me have the login setting page which I should get according to my manual. Used already more words as the manual ;-). Remember that the fellows from the telkom service also used admin. Cannot remember if the username was blank but I assume you were right. Total text of the setup in the manual 7 lines.
Blank Passwords as defaults are pretty rare, though admin and admin may work, is this a marconi?
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 23:23 +0700, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
On Monday 15 August 2005 22:26, Frank Bax wrote:
At 10:53 AM 8/15/05, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
My router is an Aztech 4 port router, DSL3100R. Manual not worth looking at. Totally useless. Used route and got under the default the ip_address 10.0.0.2 (was also mentioned in the manual). In my browser I get the request for the username and password for my "Home Gateway" at that address.
Enter the username/password from the "useless" manual.
;-). The useless manual only states: "Under login settings, please key in your username and password and click Connect"
By default the username is admin, and the password is blank.
admin keyed in and username kept blank. Does not let me have the login setting page which I should get according to my manual. Used already more words as the manual ;-). Remember that the fellows from the telkom service also used admin. Cannot remember if the username was blank but I assume you were right. Total text of the setup in the manual 7 lines.
username should -not- be blank it should be admin. Try 1234 for the password as that is the default for my modem, it might work. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
On Monday, August 15, 2005 @ 7:26 AM, Frank Bax wrote:
At 10:53 AM 8/15/05, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
My router is an Aztech 4 port router, DSL3100R. Manual not worth looking at. Totally useless. Used route and got under the default the ip_address 10.0.0.2 (was also mentioned in the manual). In my browser I get the request for the username and password for my "Home Gateway" at that address.
Enter the username/password from the "useless" manual.
By default the username is admin, and the password is blank.
Or admin for both username and password. Greg Wallace
On Monday 15 August 2005 6:37 am, David SMITH wrote:
DHCP is a mechanism by which machines can connect to a network without you having to allocate them an IP address manually. One machine (the DHCP server) assumes the job of handing out IP addresses to anyone who asks for them, making sure that no two machines have the same address.
David, Great job on the explanation! I'm sure many readers besides the OP will find it very usefull and maybe even enlightening! Scott -- POPFile, the OpenSource EMail Classifier http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Linux 2.6.11.4-21.8-default x86_64 SuSE Linux 9.3 (x86-64)
At 08:58 PM 8/15/05, Scott Leighton wrote:
On Monday 15 August 2005 6:37 am, David SMITH wrote:
DHCP is a mechanism by which machines can connect to a network without you having to allocate them an IP address manually. One machine (the DHCP server) assumes the job of handing out IP addresses to anyone who asks for them, making sure that no two machines have the same address.
David,
Great job on the explanation! I'm sure many readers besides the OP will find it very usefull and maybe even enlightening!
David's explanation is incomplete (but was sufficient for OP's problem). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol David's explanation gives an overview of "IP Address Allocation". DHCP can send much more than simply ip address to client - see "Client Configuration Parameters".
On Monday, August 15, 2005 @ 5:25 AM, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Followed the discussion about "Suse 9.3 DNS server setup" and found in one of the possible solutions the sentence "1) disable dhcp on you router".
For me my router is something that I hung at a wall, that is connected with
the ADSL phone line and my computer. It works and as a matter of fact I do not know what it does. Is there some way to find out what the router does? If I could disable dhcp, how could I restore it. Where to find out more about the innards of routers. Google was
not the solution to learn something about routers in my case.
Are you talking about a router or modem? Is it a device that your ISP gave you? Greg Wallace
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