I have a SuSE 8.1 system. Twice now this week, I have awakened the system from the screensaver(simple black screen) to find all windows painted on desktop 1, and the window manager 'frame' missing from all windows. In each case, logging out of KDE and re-starting X brought back the window manager. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Does anyone know a workaround less disruptive than restarting X? The system has been updated recently with fou4s and YOU. Here's a list of related kde packages now installed: bruiser:~ # rpm -qa | grep kde kdeartwork3-sound-3.0.4-8 kdebase3-ksysguardd-3.0.4-4 kdepim3-sync-3.0.4-8 kdeadmin3-3.0.4-7 kdegraphics3-postscript-3.0.4-7 kdeutils3-printing-3.0.4-5 kdeutils3-extra-3.0.4-5 kdegraphics3-fax-3.0.4-7 kde-i18n-2.2.2-404 kdebase3-nsplugin-3.0.4-4 kdegraphics3-3.0.4-7 kdegraphics3-kamera-3.0.4-7 kdegames3-card-3.0.4-3 kdeutils3-laptop-3.0.4-5 kdeaddons3-kicker-3.0.4-4 xmms-kde-3.0-49 kdegraphics3-extra-3.0.4-7 kdenetwork3-dialup-3.0.4-7 kdemultimedia3-video-3.0.4-3 kdegames3-tactic-3.0.4-3 kdeaddons3-sound-3.0.4-4 kdegames3-board-3.0.4-3 kdegraphics3-scan-0.38-63 kdegraphics3-tex-3.0.4-7 kdemultimedia3-midi-3.0.4-3 kdenetwork3-3.0.4-7 kdenetwork3-news-3.0.4-7 kdenetwork3-query-3.0.4-7 kdepim3-time-management-3.0.4-8 kdeaddons3-kate-3.0.4-4 kdenetwork3-chat-3.0.4-7 kdenetwork3-mail-3.0.4-7 kdebase3-kdm-3.0.4-4 kdepim3-3.0.4-8 kdepim3-organizer-3.0.4-8 kde2-compat-2.2.2-348 kdeaddons3-internet-3.0.4-4 kdebase3-3.0.4-32 kdemultimedia3-sound-3.0.4-3 kdeutils3-3.0.4-5 pixieplus-kde-0.3-254 kdebase3-SuSE-8.1-56 kdelibs3-3.0.5-0 kdeartwork3-3.0.4-8 kdebase3-konqueror-3.0.4-4 kdegames3-3.0.4-7 kdegames3-arcade-3.0.4-3 kdetoys3-3.0.4-6 -- Rick Green "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin