Has Leap 15.0 reached end of life and no longer updateable? Thanks, Terry
Dne úterý 9. března 2021 22:38:04 CET, Terry Eck napsal(a):
Has Leap 15.0 reached end of life and no longer updateable?
Correct, upgrade to 15.1, https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/ Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/
Am Dienstag, 9. März 2021, 22:41:47 CET schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
Dne úterý 9. března 2021 22:38:04 CET, Terry Eck napsal(a):
Has Leap 15.0 reached end of life and no longer updateable?
Correct, upgrade to 15.1, https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime
..which is ALSO EOL'ed. The currently supported version is Leap 15.2 (and Tumbleweed). Cheers MH -- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann@openSUSE.org Jabber (XMPP): lemmy@tuxonline.tech IRC: [Lemmy] on freenode and ircnet (bouncer active) telegram: https://telegram.me/lemmy98 keybase: https://keybase.io/lemmy gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102
Dne úterý 9. března 2021 22:52:40 CET, Mathias Homann napsal(a):
Am Dienstag, 9. März 2021, 22:41:47 CET schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
Dne úterý 9. března 2021 22:38:04 CET, Terry Eck napsal(a):
Has Leap 15.0 reached end of life and no longer updateable?
Correct, upgrade to 15.1, https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime
..which is ALSO EOL'ed. The currently supported version is Leap 15.2 (and Tumbleweed).
Correct, sorry O:-) -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/ Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/
On 2021-03-09 4:52 p.m., Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. März 2021, 22:41:47 CET schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
Dne úterý 9. března 2021 22:38:04 CET, Terry Eck napsal(a):
Has Leap 15.0 reached end of life and no longer updateable?
Correct, upgrade to 15.1, https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime
..which is ALSO EOL'ed. The currently supported version is Leap 15.2 (and Tumbleweed).
Well there's another way to look at it. It also means that 15.0 and increasingly 15.1 are STABLE :-) I'm running 15.1 and 'zypper up' daily and the changes that happen are only to the "extra" repositories: Mozilla, KDE/Plasma, Packman/graphics and Kernel_Stable. No, seriously, for some situations being stable is IMPORTANT. More important than being feature-some. -- “Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma, whether it’s conspiracy theories or free-market,” -- James Glattfelder. http://jth.ch/jbg
On 14/03/2021 13.59, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 2021-03-09 4:52 p.m., Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. März 2021, 22:41:47 CET schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
Dne úterý 9. března 2021 22:38:04 CET, Terry Eck napsal(a):
Has Leap 15.0 reached end of life and no longer updateable?
Correct, upgrade to 15.1, https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime
..which is ALSO EOL'ed. The currently supported version is Leap 15.2 (and Tumbleweed).
Well there's another way to look at it. It also means that 15.0 and increasingly 15.1 are STABLE :-)
I'm running 15.1 and 'zypper up' daily and the changes that happen are only to the "extra" repositories: Mozilla, KDE/Plasma, Packman/graphics and Kernel_Stable.
No, seriously, for some situations being stable is IMPORTANT. More important than being feature-some.
Nonono. 15.0 (nor 15.1) are not stable. They are simply no longer updated. There can be extra repositories that keep doing updates only to their packages, and possibly only while they happen automatically with no work. But nobody does updates on them to the oss/non-oss official repositories. There are no bug corrections, no security patches. This is not that there are no bugs or security holes found. There are, but nobody repairs them. That is not the definition of stable. It is the definition of "not cared for". -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 14/03/2021 13.59, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 2021-03-09 4:52 p.m., Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. März 2021, 22:41:47 CET schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
Dne úterý 9. března 2021 22:38:04 CET, Terry Eck napsal(a):
Has Leap 15.0 reached end of life and no longer updateable?
Correct, upgrade to 15.1, https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime
..which is ALSO EOL'ed. The currently supported version is Leap 15.2 (and Tumbleweed).
Well there's another way to look at it. It also means that 15.0 and increasingly 15.1 are STABLE :-)
I'm running 15.1 and 'zypper up' daily and the changes that happen are only to the "extra" repositories: Mozilla, KDE/Plasma, Packman/graphics and Kernel_Stable.
No, seriously, for some situations being stable is IMPORTANT. More important than being feature-some.
Nonono. 15.0 (nor 15.1) are not stable. They are simply no longer updated.
Isn't 'no changes' pretty much the definition of 'stable' ? I think that is what Anton is suggesting. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland.
On 14/03/2021 14.37, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 14/03/2021 13.59, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 2021-03-09 4:52 p.m., Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. März 2021, 22:41:47 CET schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
Dne úterý 9. března 2021 22:38:04 CET, Terry Eck napsal(a):
Has Leap 15.0 reached end of life and no longer updateable?
Correct, upgrade to 15.1, https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime
..which is ALSO EOL'ed. The currently supported version is Leap 15.2 (and Tumbleweed).
Well there's another way to look at it. It also means that 15.0 and increasingly 15.1 are STABLE :-)
I'm running 15.1 and 'zypper up' daily and the changes that happen are only to the "extra" repositories: Mozilla, KDE/Plasma, Packman/graphics and Kernel_Stable.
No, seriously, for some situations being stable is IMPORTANT. More important than being feature-some.
Nonono. 15.0 (nor 15.1) are not stable. They are simply no longer updated.
Isn't 'no changes' pretty much the definition of 'stable' ? I think that is what Anton is suggesting.
No. In software, we take "stable" to mean no changes or minimal changes because there is nothing to change, not because nobody is checking to see if changer are needed and they do it. It is rather "abandon-ware". -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 14/03/2021 15.34, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 14/03/2021 14.37, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 14/03/2021 13.59, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 2021-03-09 4:52 p.m., Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. März 2021, 22:41:47 CET schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
Dne úterý 9. března 2021 22:38:04 CET, Terry Eck napsal(a): > Has Leap 15.0 reached end of life and no longer updateable?
Correct, upgrade to 15.1, https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime
..which is ALSO EOL'ed. The currently supported version is Leap 15.2 (and Tumbleweed).
Well there's another way to look at it. It also means that 15.0 and increasingly 15.1 are STABLE :-)
I'm running 15.1 and 'zypper up' daily and the changes that happen are only to the "extra" repositories: Mozilla, KDE/Plasma, Packman/graphics and Kernel_Stable.
No, seriously, for some situations being stable is IMPORTANT. More important than being feature-some.
Nonono. 15.0 (nor 15.1) are not stable. They are simply no longer updated.
Isn't 'no changes' pretty much the definition of 'stable' ? I think that is what Anton is suggesting.
No. In software, we take "stable" to mean no changes or minimal changes because there is nothing to change, not because nobody is checking to see if changes are needed and they do it. It is rather "abandon-ware".
Or "fixated". -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2021-03-14 9:13 a.m., Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 14/03/2021 13.59, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 2021-03-09 4:52 p.m., Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. März 2021, 22:41:47 CET schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
Dne úterý 9. března 2021 22:38:04 CET, Terry Eck napsal(a):
Has Leap 15.0 reached end of life and no longer updateable?
Correct, upgrade to 15.1, https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime
..which is ALSO EOL'ed. The currently supported version is Leap 15.2 (and Tumbleweed).
Well there's another way to look at it. It also means that 15.0 and increasingly 15.1 are STABLE :-)
I'm running 15.1 and 'zypper up' daily and the changes that happen are only to the "extra" repositories: Mozilla, KDE/Plasma, Packman/graphics and Kernel_Stable.
No, seriously, for some situations being stable is IMPORTANT. More important than being feature-some.
Nonono. 15.0 (nor 15.1) are not stable. They are simply no longer updated. There can be extra repositories that keep doing updates only to their packages, and possibly only while they happen automatically with no work.
But nobody does updates on them to the oss/non-oss official repositories. There are no bug corrections, no security patches.
This is not that there are no bugs or security holes found. There are, but nobody repairs them.
That is not the definition of stable. It is the definition of "not cared for".
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stable See the 1(b) under 'adjective': not changing or fluctuating Stop and think about it. There are going to be situations, perhaps embedded systems' where the bugs don't matter, especially if they are in applications or drivers that aren't going to be used. Perhaps it matters in an interactive GUI system, though many users of Android phones that haven't been updated for years might disagree. (I'm one of them.) There are going to be situations where STABILITY as in 'not changing' is the case. -- “Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma, whether it’s conspiracy theories or free-market,” -- James Glattfelder. http://jth.ch/jbg
Am 14.03.21 um 13:59 schrieb Anton Aylward:
On 2021-03-09 4:52 p.m., Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. März 2021, 22:41:47 CET schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
Dne úterý 9. března 2021 22:38:04 CET, Terry Eck napsal(a):
Has Leap 15.0 reached end of life and no longer updateable?
Correct, upgrade to 15.1, https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime
..which is ALSO EOL'ed. The currently supported version is Leap 15.2 (and Tumbleweed).
Well there's another way to look at it. It also means that 15.0 and increasingly 15.1 are STABLE :-)
I'm running 15.1 and 'zypper up' daily and the changes that happen are only to the "extra" repositories: Mozilla, KDE/Plasma, Packman/graphics and Kernel_Stable.
No, seriously, for some situations being stable is IMPORTANT. More important than being feature-some.
15.1 is EOL and no longer supported. Bugs are no longer fixed, security holes no longer plugged. Your system might already be compromised. Peter
On 3/14/21 5:59 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 2021-03-09 4:52 p.m., Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. März 2021, 22:41:47 CET schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
Dne úterý 9. března 2021 22:38:04 CET, Terry Eck napsal(a):
Has Leap 15.0 reached end of life and no longer updateable?
Correct, upgrade to 15.1, https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime
..which is ALSO EOL'ed. The currently supported version is Leap 15.2 (and Tumbleweed).
Well there's another way to look at it. It also means that 15.0 and increasingly 15.1 are STABLE :-)
I'm running 15.1 and 'zypper up' daily and the changes that happen are only to the "extra" repositories: Mozilla, KDE/Plasma, Packman/graphics and Kernel_Stable.
No, seriously, for some situations being stable is IMPORTANT. More important than being feature-some.
I once had a SuSE server that had an uptime of 1,400 days. Not sure which version it was, but IIRC it was in the mid 2000's. But now, many situations consider security more important than stability. My employer forbids the use of any software, operating system or application, that isn't actively supported and updated by a vendor. Regards, Lew
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