Someone trying amarok2? If i start amarok, an error message occurs in the lower right of the windows: Could not connect to server. Wrong username or password. Which server? mysql? last.fm? I did not any configuration! Does it try amarok1 configuration file? I hear also amarok scanning my music file on the server, but no collection is updated! Anyone? Regards! Frank -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Frank Fiene wrote:
Someone trying amarok2?
If i start amarok, an error message occurs in the lower right of the windows: Could not connect to server. Wrong username or password.
Which server? mysql? last.fm?
I did not any configuration! Does it try amarok1 configuration file?
I hear also amarok scanning my music file on the server, but no collection is updated! I remember amarok connecting to CDDB or FreeDB servers to lookup and complete information like artist, CD-cover, etc. If that is still the case i find that intrusive and a breach of privacy.
Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi! Am Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2008 17:07 schrieb Philippe Landau:
I remember amarok connecting to CDDB or FreeDB servers to lookup and complete information like artist, CD-cover, etc. If that is still the case i find that intrusive and a breach of privacy.
If you don't like it turn it of. Regards, Matthias -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Matthias Bach a écrit :
Hi!
Am Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2008 17:07 schrieb Philippe Landau:
I remember amarok connecting to CDDB or FreeDB servers to lookup and complete information like artist, CD-cover, etc. If that is still the case i find that intrusive and a breach of privacy.
If you don't like it turn it of.
and it don't send data, it only fetch (without notice) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://clairedodin.voices.com/ http://www.clairedodin.com/ http://claire.dodin.net/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 27 February 2008 08:31, jdd wrote:
Matthias Bach a écrit :
Hi!
Am Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2008 17:07 schrieb Philippe Landau:
I remember amarok connecting to CDDB or FreeDB servers to lookup and complete information like artist, CD-cover, etc. If that is still the case i find that intrusive and a breach of privacy.
If you don't like it turn it of.
and it don't send data, it only fetch (without notice)
As I understand the workings of FreeDB and CDDB, a "signature" fragment of the CD's raw data is sent as a key to look up album information. Thus you cannot retrieve album information without disclosing the fact that you have a particular CD. I'm sure some consider that a breach, but as Matthias said, you don't have to use it if you don't want to let anyone know what CDs you possess.
jdd
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Matthias Bach a écrit :
Am Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2008 17:07 schrieb Philippe Landau:
I remember amarok connecting to CDDB or FreeDB servers to lookup and complete information like artist, CD-cover, etc. If that is still the case i find that intrusive and a breach of privacy. If you don't like it turn it of. and it don't send data, it only fetch (without notice) As I understand the workings of FreeDB and CDDB, a "signature" fragment of the CD's raw data is sent as a key to look up album information. Thus you cannot retrieve album information without disclosing the fact
On Wednesday 27 February 2008 08:31, jdd wrote: that you have a particular CD.
I'm sure some consider that a breach, but as Matthias said, you don't have to use it if you don't want to let anyone know what CDs you possess. OpenSuse/Novell could help protect our data and only include applications that inform users and give a choice before sending our personal data to third parties if it is not required for the obvious purpose of the program.
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* Philippe Landau
OpenSuse/Novell could help protect our data and only include applications that inform users and give a choice before sending our personal data to third parties if it is not required for the obvious purpose of the program.
*You* apparently still do not understand. It is *your* choice to make, not the programs. It is *you* that gives the program that ability or denies it via your choice in configuration. The program will not send anything w/o you telling it to. Are we a bit paranoid and quick on the trigger? AND to condem openSUSE! -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Philippe Landau wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
Matthias Bach a écrit :
Am Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2008 17:07 schrieb Philippe Landau:
I remember amarok connecting to CDDB or FreeDB servers to lookup and complete information like artist, CD-cover, etc. If that is still the case i find that intrusive and a breach of privacy. If you don't like it turn it of. and it don't send data, it only fetch (without notice) As I understand the workings of FreeDB and CDDB, a "signature" fragment of the CD's raw data is sent as a key to look up album information. Thus you cannot retrieve album information without disclosing the fact
On Wednesday 27 February 2008 08:31, jdd wrote: that you have a particular CD.
I'm sure some consider that a breach, but as Matthias said, you don't have to use it if you don't want to let anyone know what CDs you possess.
OpenSuse/Novell could help protect our data and only include applications that inform users and give a choice before sending our personal data to third parties if it is not required for the obvious purpose of the program.
If you're not violating any copyrights, what is the problem, exactly? There's no personal data revealed...it's not even data you created. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Randall R Schulz a écrit :
As I understand the workings of FreeDB and CDDB, a "signature" fragment of the CD's raw data is sent as a key to look up album information. Thus you cannot retrieve album information without disclosing the fact that you have a particular CD.
I'm sure some consider that a breach, but as Matthias said, you don't have to use it if you don't want to let anyone know what CDs you possess.
I see. But AFAIK freedb don't store such data jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://clairedodin.voices.com/ http://www.clairedodin.com/ http://claire.dodin.net/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 27 February 2008 10:06, jdd wrote:
Randall R Schulz a écrit :
As I understand the workings of FreeDB and CDDB, a "signature" fragment of the CD's raw data is sent as a key to look up album information. Thus you cannot retrieve album information without disclosing the fact that you have a particular CD.
I'm sure some consider that a breach, but as Matthias said, you don't have to use it if you don't want to let anyone know what CDs you possess.
I see. But AFAIK freedb don't store such data
Probably not. I don't know why they would. The could index it only based on IP address, and many users of the Internet still have no fixed IP address. I would guess (but haven't verified) that FreeDB has a security policy and assuming they do, I'd probably trust them to abide by it. I do believe in privacy, but as with so many things, one has to pick one's battles. The possibility that someone out there might know which CDs I possess does not keep me awake at night. (And there are some things that keep me awake at night.)
jdd
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Randall R Schulz a écrit :
I do believe in privacy, but as with so many things, one has to pick one's battles. The possibility that someone out there might know which CDs I possess does not keep me awake at night.
sure, google, for example... that's why I trust as much as possible free (open) products jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://clairedodin.voices.com/ http://www.clairedodin.com/ http://claire.dodin.net/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 27 February 2008 10:06, jdd wrote:
Randall R Schulz a écrit :
As I understand the workings of FreeDB and CDDB, a "signature" fragment of the CD's raw data is sent as a key to look up album information. Thus you cannot retrieve album information without disclosing the fact that you have a particular CD.
I'm sure some consider that a breach, but as Matthias said, you don't have to use it if you don't want to let anyone know what CDs you possess.
I see. But AFAIK freedb don't store such data
Probably not. I don't know why they would. The could index it only based on IP address, and many users of the Internet still have no fixed IP address.
I would guess (but haven't verified) that FreeDB has a security policy and assuming they do, I'd probably trust them to abide by it.
I do believe in privacy, but as with so many things, one has to pick one's battles. The possibility that someone out there might know which CDs I possess does not keep me awake at night. (And there are some things that keep me awake at night.)
jdd
Randall Schulz
Even if they did store such data, it would be easy to foul up their data-store by simply borrowing CDs from a public library. All they could ever know is a subset of what CDs you have had in your posession, not what CDs you own. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Philip Dowie a écrit :
Even if they did store such data, it would be easy to foul up their data-store by simply borrowing CDs from a public library. All they could ever know is a subset of what CDs you have had in your posession, not what CDs you own.
but nobody worry about ownership, but many about gusts and whishes. This is for advertisement purpose. Knowing what you like if very important and so have a money value... even mozilla own an enormous amoiunt of cash fromGoogle to have google link on it by default and google *do* store users infos jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://clairedodin.voices.com/ http://www.clairedodin.com/ http://claire.dodin.net/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2008-02-27 at 20:15 +0100, jdd wrote:
Philip Dowie a écrit :
Even if they did store such data, it would be easy to foul up their data-store by simply borrowing CDs from a public library. All they could ever know is a subset of what CDs you have had in your posession, not what CDs you own.
but nobody worry about ownership, but many about gusts and whishes. This is for advertisement purpose. Knowing what you like if very important and so have a money value...
It is not very useful if they can only relate CDs to IPs, as many IPs are dynamic and don't belong to a single person. They could make statistics per country, perhaps. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHxffvtTMYHG2NR9URAhJ2AJ0WXGMUzzI0MUJHdReirekB2uAEYACbBRlv UgODdkx9H449wpMdE3waSBc= =vxyQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
jdd wrote:
Philip Dowie a écrit :
Even if they did store such data, it would be easy to foul up their data-store by simply borrowing CDs from a public library. All they could ever know is a subset of what CDs you have had in your posession, not what CDs you own.
but nobody worry about ownership, but many about gusts and whishes. This is for advertisement purpose. Knowing what you like if very important and so have a money value...
even mozilla own an enormous amoiunt of cash fromGoogle to have google link on it by default and google *do* store users infos
Let's assume that NOBODY has dynamic IPs...and someone maps an inventory of CD's with an IP address... and from that...they figure out...WHAT KIND OF MUSIC YOU LIKE... and oh...they might MAKE MORE OF IT AVAILABLE TO YOU OHHH SCARRY SCARY RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY! I'm have more concern about the local grocery store and their "discount cards" if you let them keep track of every single thing you ever buy from them... And even that is admittedly paranoid.
jdd
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