[opensuse] probably off-topic: recommend a mobile phone for SuSE user?
Dear everyone on the list I am going to purchase a new mobile phone: having not purchased a new mobile phone for some 6 years I am shocked in both number of choices on the market and over-wheelming number of features to choose from. I guess probably people on the list know better which in-expensive durable model that can cope well with SuSE software, e.g. Evolution (for contact persons and alarm is okay). Internet: It's better if the mobile phone can offer Internet connectivity, to allow me read / send email on the mobile phone using IMAP. No need to run a browser on it. Also it's better if the phone can provide my notebook wireless Internet connection through infrared or bluetooth or whatever Linux supports. No fancy function like camera and radio needed. If mp3 is supported then better also support OGG. Multimedia: No complex feature like play one of 1000 games and run several kinds of virtual machine. No need wide built-in full-color screen for watching movie and reading book. Mac OS: It would be better if it's also supported by Mac OS X 10.2 which is my second OS, but that I think for that I'll go to consult Mac OS user group. LDAP: it's a dream if there is a model supports LDAP because all my contacts are stored in centralized LDAP contact directory in our company, but when I ask LDAP most mobile phone retailer guy don't know what I am talking about. I'll start a google research later see if there is such a product. Durability: The last mobile phone I used 6 years until it's lost (NOT BROKEN). I know many manufacturer try to design IT goods to last exactly as long as warranty period with excuse that nobody will use it for more than 3 years etc. I am nobody and I am going to use it for some longer time. It seems in China now people change mobile phone as frequent as they take bath so a lot of Chinese products are designed feature-rich, good-looking, very cheap and only last a month or two. Thanks and sorry for being OT. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 07 August 2007 08:09, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
Dear everyone on the list
I am going to purchase a new mobile phone: having not purchased a new mobile phone for some 6 years I am shocked in both number of choices on the market and over-wheelming number of features to choose from. I guess probably people on the list know better which in-expensive durable model that can cope well with SuSE software, e.g. Evolution (for contact persons and alarm is okay).
Internet: It's better if the mobile phone can offer Internet connectivity, to allow me read / send email on the mobile phone using IMAP. No need to run a browser on it. Also it's better if the phone can provide my notebook wireless Internet connection through infrared or bluetooth or whatever Linux supports. No fancy function like camera and radio needed. If mp3 is supported then better also support OGG.
Multimedia: No complex feature like play one of 1000 games and run several kinds of virtual machine. No need wide built-in full-color screen for watching movie and reading book.
Mac OS: It would be better if it's also supported by Mac OS X 10.2 which is my second OS, but that I think for that I'll go to consult Mac OS user group.
LDAP: it's a dream if there is a model supports LDAP because all my contacts are stored in centralized LDAP contact directory in our company, but when I ask LDAP most mobile phone retailer guy don't know what I am talking about. I'll start a google research later see if there is such a product.
Durability: The last mobile phone I used 6 years until it's lost (NOT BROKEN). I know many manufacturer try to design IT goods to last exactly as long as warranty period with excuse that nobody will use it for more than 3 years etc. I am nobody and I am going to use it for some longer time. It seems in China now people change mobile phone as frequent as they take bath so a lot of Chinese products are designed feature-rich, good-looking, very cheap and only last a month or two.
Do you want a smart phone? Or just a phone with a few extra features? Odds are you should check what your provider is pushing this week. Models change. They have different names in different parts of the world or even with different providers. Feature sets can change between providers. Internet check what your provider network supports. What they might be supporting real soon now. HSPDA phones seem to be getting cheaper by the day but if your provider doesn't support it no point spending the extra money. I'm not sure bluetooth is really fast enough for HSPDA. I'd want a cable personally. You might want to consider a laptop card [assuming you're hauling a laptop around] and a basic phone. Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Zhang Weiwu wrote:
Dear everyone on the list
I am going to purchase a new mobile phone: having not purchased a new mobile phone for some 6 years I am shocked in both number of choices on the market and over-wheelming number of features to choose from. I guess probably people on the list know better which in-expensive durable model that can cope well with SuSE software, e.g. Evolution (for contact persons and alarm is okay). Snip >
I have a SonyEricsson P990i Symbian based phone, it has a large screen and most of the features you need. Whilst I haven't connected it to my linux box for more than USB Disk mode transfers a quick Google reveals that it can be made to sync with Evolution. http://devel.reinikainen.net/content/view/48/40/ Secondly a plugin for iSync on the Mac has recently been released and can be downloaded from SonyEricsson. I purchased an IMAP mail programme for 17 Euros as the built-in email programme is very basic and doesn't support IMAP folders. The phone has Inra-red, Wireless and Bluetooth and the UK variant supports 3G and GPRS data services. You will unfortunately need windows in order to update the Phone firmware, unless of course you can persuade a SonyEricsson dealer to do this for you. Early version of the firmware were a bit buggy, but since upgrade it has been very stable. Hope that helps. -- David Bottrill david@bottrill.org www.bottrill.org Registered Linux user number 330730 Internet Free World Dialup: 683864 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 07 August 2007, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
Dear everyone on the list
I am going to purchase a new mobile phone: having not purchased a new mobile phone for some 6 years I am shocked in both number of choices on the market and over-wheelming number of features to choose from. I guess probably people on the list know better which in-expensive durable model that can cope well with SuSE software, e.g. Evolution (for contact persons and alarm is okay).
Modern phones are not durable. There may be some models specifically designed to be durable--Nokia 5500 may fall into that category--but I don't know. Modern phones are not made to last 6 years, unless you go for the cheapest models with black and white displays etc. and no moving parts such as slides or hinges etc.
Internet: It's better if the mobile phone can offer Internet connectivity, to allow me read / send email on the mobile phone using IMAP. No need to run a browser on it. Also it's better if the phone can provide my notebook wireless Internet connection through infrared or bluetooth or whatever Linux supports. No fancy function like camera and radio needed. If mp3 is supported then better also support OGG.
I belive OGG support is available fro Nokia S60 platform smartphones from somewhere. Probably to Windows Mobile too. That is, you may need to install additional software. I doubt many non-smartphones offer OGG or allow OGG-capable software to be installed. I may be wrong, though.
Multimedia: No complex feature like play one of 1000 games and run several kinds of virtual machine. No need wide built-in full-color screen for watching movie and reading book.
Mac OS: It would be better if it's also supported by Mac OS X 10.2 which is my second OS, but that I think for that I'll go to consult Mac OS user group.
As far as I know, only very few manufactures truly support OSX. There have been some rumours of Nokia OSX beta software spotted or discussed somewhere, but I don't know if they're actually porting their PC suite to OS X, or if they did, when it would arrive. When someone asked, they neither declined nor confirmed that. OS X is not important, so manufacturers are not very interested in it.
LDAP: it's a dream if there is a model supports LDAP because all my contacts are stored in centralized LDAP contact directory in our company, but when I ask LDAP most mobile phone retailer guy don't know what I am talking about. I'll start a google research later see if there is such a product.
You might want to check out if there's S60 or Windows Mobile software that would allow LDAP. Regards, Tero Pesonen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Dear everyone on the list
I am going to purchase a new mobile phone: having not purchased a new mobile phone for some 6 years I am shocked in both number of choices on the market and over-wheelming number of features to choose from. I guess probably people on the list know better which in-expensive durable model that can cope well with SuSE software, e.g. Evolution (for contact persons and alarm is okay).
Internet: It's better if the mobile phone can offer Internet connectivity, to allow me read / send email on the mobile phone using IMAP. No need to run a browser on it. Also it's better if the phone can provide my notebook wireless Internet connection through infrared or bluetooth or whatever Linux supports. No fancy function like camera and radio needed. If mp3 is supported then better also support OGG.
Multimedia: No complex feature like play one of 1000 games and run several kinds of virtual machine. No need wide built-in full-color screen for watching movie and reading book.
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Thanks and sorry for being OT.
You have two initial constraints - what the carrier provides and what the carrier uses to deliver service.... You seem to be based in China, SE Asia is in many ways technically much more developed in this area than europe and the U.S. with a much richer range of options. (I believe the openmoku phone is being put in production in China, maybe you could talk yourself into becoming a beta tester.. :-) ) There are a number of things in the japanese/korean marketplace which are not available in the west which might work for you. Most of the western phone manufacturers struggle in this marketplace, it might be worth talking to others in the region to get a better perspective. A western based option is quite likely to be inappropriate... - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGuIaDasN0sSnLmgIRAmBlAJ4xqGExmrfsvHfLm9LQHRmIW//gbQCgoD0w VgsANELraZXyRbzVsQzQLro= =np+L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Thank you for all of you providing helpful suggestions and ideas. Especially information about openmoko which I am very interested in:) Maybe I'd try with some Nokia products. Will need a weekend to browse the product categories and try a few of them in shopping center but thanks a lot for all input! I haven't used modern mobile phone for some time and is obviously outdated. 在 2007-08-07二的 15:49 +0100，G T Smith写道：
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Zhang Weiwu wrote:
Dear everyone on the list
I am going to purchase a new mobile phone: having not purchased a new mobile phone for some 6 years I am shocked in both number of choices on the market and over-wheelming number of features to choose from. I guess probably people on the list know better which in-expensive durable model that can cope well with SuSE software, e.g. Evolution (for contact persons and alarm is okay).
Internet: It's better if the mobile phone can offer Internet connectivity, to allow me read / send email on the mobile phone using IMAP. No need to run a browser on it. Also it's better if the phone can provide my notebook wireless Internet connection through infrared or bluetooth or whatever Linux supports. No fancy function like camera and radio needed. If mp3 is supported then better also support OGG.
Multimedia: No complex feature like play one of 1000 games and run several kinds of virtual machine. No need wide built-in full-color screen for watching movie and reading book.
<snip>
Thanks and sorry for being OT.
You have two initial constraints - what the carrier provides and what the carrier uses to deliver service....
You seem to be based in China, SE Asia is in many ways technically much more developed in this area than europe and the U.S. with a much richer range of options. (I believe the openmoku phone is being put in production in China, maybe you could talk yourself into becoming a beta tester.. :-) )
There are a number of things in the japanese/korean marketplace which are not available in the west which might work for you. Most of the western phone manufacturers struggle in this marketplace, it might be worth talking to others in the region to get a better perspective. A western based option is quite likely to be inappropriate...
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On 08/07/2007 10:49 AM somebody named G T Smith wrote:
Zhang Weiwu wrote:
Dear everyone on the list
I am going to purchase a new mobile phone: having not purchased a new mobile phone for some 6 years I am shocked in both number of choices on the market and over-wheelming number of features to choose from. I guess probably people on the list know better which in-expensive durable model that can cope well with SuSE software, e.g. Evolution (for contact persons and alarm is okay).
Internet: It's better if the mobile phone can offer Internet connectivity, to allow me read / send email on the mobile phone using IMAP. No need to run a browser on it. Also it's better if the phone can provide my notebook wireless Internet connection through infrared or bluetooth or whatever Linux supports. No fancy function like camera and radio needed. If mp3 is supported then better also support OGG.
Multimedia: No complex feature like play one of 1000 games and run several kinds of virtual machine. No need wide built-in full-color screen for watching movie and reading book.
<snip>
Thanks and sorry for being OT.
You have two initial constraints - what the carrier provides and what the carrier uses to deliver service....
You seem to be based in China, SE Asia is in many ways technically much more developed in this area than europe and the U.S. with a much richer range of options. (I believe the openmoku phone is being put in production in China, maybe you could talk yourself into becoming a beta tester.. :-) )
There are a number of things in the japanese/korean marketplace which are not available in the west which might work for you. Most of the western phone manufacturers struggle in this marketplace, it might be worth talking to others in the region to get a better perspective. A western based option is quite likely to be inappropriate...
It's good to discover that I'm not the only person here who's heard of the the openmoko phone. It's my understanding that this phone is being manufactured in Taiwan, is GMS-based, and was designed from the beginning to run open source apps. The beta version, called Verson 1, of this phone is available now, but the applications it will run is very limited. The company claims that Version 2, with all basic apps functioning, will be available in October. This is the phone I've been waiting for. It's really a handheld computer (and so a PDA also) which can connect to phone and internet services. As do all cell phones (as far as I'm aware), it has a GPS, but the difference is that with the openmoko phone it is accessible to the user and whatever applications the user wants to install. The obvious application is for mapping, but it's easy to imagine many other applications. There's a lot more potential for this phone. See <http://www.openmoko.org/> for more info. hth, ken -- Abstinence-Only sex education is a little like Just-Hold-It potty training. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 07 August 2007, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
Dear everyone on the list
I am going to purchase a new mobile phone:
Almost everything you asked for is available on the run of the mill Razr, Krazr, or several other motorola phones that I am familiar with. You need a data plan, preferably unlimited. GSM phones seem to have more of these features but I have to admit its been a while since I used anything else. I don't have a clue what technologies are supported there. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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