* Bryon Adams [04-25-17 16:06]:

Running Leap 42.2 on my pi and out of curiosity I ran zypper dup to see what would show up. It looks like it wants to install a bunch of graphical applications and I'm not sure why, could someone explain this to me?

This is a minimal install from the JeOS image. I pasted the output on susepaste here: http://susepaste.org/16775081

you said you ran "dup". you can obtain an explanation from zypper for the changes if you run: zypper -vv dup or zypper -v dup -det rather than zypper dup a guess would be that you have repo's enabled besides the standard and that "dup" will use the "newest" package from "any" vendor unless you tell it not, --no-allow-v, where "up" will only update packages from the repo you used to install them. man zypper and zypper --help are your friends. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 04/25/2017 05:50 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Bryon Adams [04-25-17 16:06]:

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Running Leap 42.2 on my pi and out of curiosity I ran zypper dup to see what would show up. It looks like it wants to install a bunch of graphical applications and I'm not sure why, could someone explain this to me?

This is a minimal install from the JeOS image. I pasted the output on susepaste here: http://susepaste.org/16775081

you said you ran "dup". you can obtain an explanation from zypper for the changes if you run: zypper -vv dup or zypper -v dup -det

rather than zypper dup

a guess would be that you have repo's enabled besides the standard and that "dup" will use the "newest" package from "any" vendor unless you tell it not, --no-allow-v, where "up" will only update packages from the repo you used to install them.

man zypper and zypper --help

are your friends.

No repositories are enabled (or exist) other than the two default ones. openSUSE-Ports-Leap-42.2-Update openSUSE-Ports-Leap-42.2-repo-oss What I'm not sure about is why packages such as "adwaita-icon-theme" or "gnome-online-accounts" are in the list of packages when I am running a minimal install with no desktop installed. If I use the "--no-recommends" option, it doesn't attempt to install anything from that list I linked. Is there a way for me to find out what is asking for these to be installed where no desktop environment is installed? I don't think any patterns are enabled, when I do a "zypper patterns" nothing is checked on the leftmost column. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On April 25, 2017 7:40:54 PM EDT, "Carlos E. R." wrote:

On 2017-04-26 01:22, Bryon Adams wrote:

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What I'm not sure about is why packages such as "adwaita-icon-theme" or "gnome-online-accounts" are in the list of packages when I am running a minimal install with no desktop installed.

Packaging error, IMHO.

Easier to see which one in YaST. Can you run it remotely via ssh or on console?

Wild guess: release notes.

When I get home I'll try. I can SSH in but on mobile right now. I haven't used YaST for updates before, so that should be fun. Is there something specific I should look for in YaST? -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Bryon Adams composed on 2017-04-25 19:22 (UTC-0400):

No repositories are enabled (or exist) other than the two default ones.

openSUSE-Ports-Leap-42.2-Update openSUSE-Ports-Leap-42.2-repo-oss

What I'm not sure about is why packages such as "adwaita-icon-theme" or "gnome-online-accounts" are in the list of packages when I am running a minimal install with no desktop installed.

If I use the "--no-recommends" option, it doesn't attempt to install anything from that list I linked. Is there a way for me to find out what is asking for these to be installed where no desktop environment is installed? I don't think any patterns are enabled, when I do a "zypper patterns" nothing is checked on the leftmost column.

I rarely notice anyone here mention they install minimal, which is what I usually do on all my own hardware. Before using zypper or yast on first boot I make no-recommends the functional default by putting 'solver.onlyRequires = true' into /etc/zypp/zypp.conf. I wonder if the installer when minimal install is selected, and detailed selection is not used to add packages or patterns requiring Xorg, that it, in effect, turns on onlyRequires and/or no-recommends, but doesn't set either in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf or zypper.conf? If so, it could be the reason why you see zypper try to install all those new packages just by trying to use zypper at all? I normally add a few things in detailed package selection after initially selecting minimal, but it seems something always selects gnome-online-accounts, which I taboo, along with somewhere around 30 or more other things I'll never have use for. I think adwaita-icon-theme may be the GTK default, a basic requirement if any of SeaMonkey, Firefox or Thunderbird is to be installed. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org