Hi folks, SUSE 9.2 and I are best friends. It's such a good friend that it plays little tricks on me - to keep me amused, of course. One of those tricks is to covertly reduce my sound mixer volume. Sometimes it's just PCM volume that goes from around 80 (my usual setting) to 29. Sometimes it's that and the Master volume (both to 29). I will reset the volume(s) to 80 through KMix (or Kamix), and then about 45 minutes later, cannot hear sounds for system notifications, for instance. Back to the mixer, change again... ad infinitum. I read the previous thread ("Sound Problem") and, thinking this might be a similar issue, followed advice in there (including following the steps here: http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/en/2004/05/thallma_9...). Sadly, the problem still remains. Whilst my dear friend SUSE 9.2 is very close to me, its humour is becoming slightly irksome :) One thought I have is to stop alsa, set /etc/asound.state manually and changing it to read-only for root user, group and world, and then seeing if it sticks. But this seems, at best, a kludge... I'm afraid the sound system(s) in linux are not my strong point. Any suggestions gratefully received. Thanks, Steve
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 05:54 am, Steve Dowe wrote:
Hi folks,
SUSE 9.2 and I are best friends. It's such a good friend that it plays little tricks on me - to keep me amused, of course.
One of those tricks is to covertly reduce my sound mixer volume. Sometimes it's just PCM volume that goes from around 80 (my usual setting) to 29. Sometimes it's that and the Master volume (both to 29). I will reset the volume(s) to 80 through KMix (or Kamix), and then about 45 minutes later, cannot hear sounds for system notifications, for instance. Back to the mixer, change again... ad infinitum.
I read the previous thread ("Sound Problem") and, thinking this might be a similar issue, followed advice in there (including following the steps here: http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/en/2004/05/th allma_91_sndsilence.html). Sadly, the problem still remains. Whilst my dear friend SUSE 9.2 is very close to me, its humour is becoming slightly irksome :)
One thought I have is to stop alsa, set /etc/asound.state manually and changing it to read-only for root user, group and world, and then seeing if it sticks. But this seems, at best, a kludge... I'm afraid the sound system(s) in linux are not my strong point.
Any suggestions gratefully received.
Thanks, Steve ============
Steve, You actually don't have to go to the extreme measure of removing the kdemultimedia3-mixer file from your system, as the article stated you mentioned. All you should have to do is close kamix, if it's open, start kmix and untick the item that resets volumes on bootup. Of course, if your volumes are changing while booted, then I'm suspecting you might be running some programs using sound that are making the changes. I saw this just yesterday while working on a customer's new 9.2 machine. One of the files started up the RealPlayer audio player and instantly the volumes were adjusted to about half. I've seen it occur with other programs as well. Regards, Lee -- --- KMail v1.7.1 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "Don't let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game!"
On Wed December 1 2004 8:25 am, BandiPat wrote: [snip]
Of course, if your volumes are changing while booted, then I'm suspecting you might be running some programs using sound that are making the changes. I saw this just yesterday while working on a customer's new 9.2 machine. One of the files started up the RealPlayer audio player and instantly the volumes were adjusted to about half. I've seen it occur with other programs as well.
That does happen, yes. However, Gamix has NEVER held the settings on this system, nor any I've setup in the past. I'd like to know how to "force" it to do what it should! Fred -- "As Internet technology itself vaults into new areas, so too does the Microsoft monopoly and its tried-and-true bag of tricks." -US Senator Orrin Hatch, (R) Utah
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 04:07 pm, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Wed December 1 2004 8:25 am, BandiPat wrote:
[snip]
Of course, if your volumes are changing while booted, then I'm suspecting you might be running some programs using sound that are making the changes. I saw this just yesterday while working on a customer's new 9.2 machine. One of the files started up the RealPlayer audio player and instantly the volumes were adjusted to about half. I've seen it occur with other programs as well.
That does happen, yes. However, Gamix has NEVER held the settings on this system, nor any I've setup in the past. I'd like to know how to "force" it to do what it should!
Fred ===========
Fred, If this is after a reboot, then the kmix bug may still be present, if it's 9.2. Actually, I've not experienced any problems in 9.2 with that, but did in 9.1. Again, stop any other mixer you have running, start kmix and untick the "restore volume settings on reboot". Anything you set after that with GAmix or KAmix, should remain. Again, I've not experienced the problem with 9.2 and I've installed one fresh, while upgrading 4 others so far. regards, Lee -- --- KMail v1.7.1 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "Don't let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game!"
On Wed December 1 2004 10:12 pm, BandiPat wrote: [snip]
That does happen, yes. However, Gamix has NEVER held the settings on this system, nor any I've setup in the past. I'd like to know how to "force" it to do what it should!
Fred
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Fred, If this is after a reboot, then the kmix bug may still be present, if it's 9.2. Actually, I've not experienced any problems in 9.2 with that, but did in 9.1. Again, stop any other mixer you have running, start kmix and untick the "restore volume settings on reboot". Anything you set after that with GAmix or KAmix, should remain. Again, I've not experienced the problem with 9.2 and I've installed one fresh, while upgrading 4 others so far.
Lee, this is intersting. KMail AND Gamix haven't behaved properly in the past. I hadn't tried KMix in 9.2 as it didn't work properly and was "lame" compared to Gamix. Gamix doesn't behave properly in 9.2, however, today I removed Gamix from startup in KDE, put in it's place KMix (which is improved over 9.1) set it up, logged out and rebooted.....ALL is as I set it. So, it would appear that you are right, in that KMix is fixed! Best, Fred -- "As Internet technology itself vaults into new areas, so too does the Microsoft monopoly and its tried-and-true bag of tricks." -US Senator Orrin Hatch, (R) Utah
Fred said:
removed Gamix from startup in KDE, put in it's place KMix (which is improved over 9.1) set it up, logged out and rebooted.....ALL is as I set it. So, it would appear that you are right, in that KMix is fixed!
Ah, I wish I could agree! I reinstalled KMix yesterday and de-selected the "Restore Volume Settings on Reboot". I switch it on this morning, and - oops - there go my volume settings again. The only one that makes my settings stick is alsamixergui, so I'll stick with that for now. Cheers, Steve
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 4:54 am, Steve Dowe wrote:
Hi folks,
One of those tricks is to covertly reduce my sound mixer volume. Sometimes it's just PCM volume that goes from around 80 (my usual setting) to 29. Sometimes it's that and the Master volume (both to 29). I will reset the volume(s) to 80 through KMix (or Kamix), and then about 45 minutes later, cannot hear sounds for system notifications, for instance. Back to the mixer, change again... ad infinitum.
I read the previous thread ("Sound Problem") and, thinking this might be a similar issue, followed advice in there (including following the steps here: http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/en/2004/05/thallma_ 91_sndsilence.html). Sadly, the problem still remains. Whilst my dear friend SUSE 9.2 is very close to me, its humour is becoming slightly irksome :)
One thought I have is to stop alsa, set /etc/asound.state manually and changing it to read-only for root user, group and world, and then seeing if it sticks. But this seems, at best, a kludge... I'm afraid the sound system(s) in linux are not my strong point.
Any suggestions gratefully received.
Thanks, Steve
Try using alsamixergui instead of Kmix/Kamix. I have better luck with it setting and keeping volumes. This has worked whether Kmix/KAmix were running or not on my system. This is over SUSE 8.1 or 8.2 through 9.1 and KDE up to and including 3.3.1. The solution you reference never worked for me but has worked for others on the list. Using YaST, Hardware, Sound Card, Volume Settings would work until a reboot on my system. Alsamixergui seems to be able to set my sound volumes and keep them. I just did a fresh install of SUSE 9.2 Pro with the base KDE 3.3.0 and my volumes have stayed perfect so far. This is new behavior and a welcome change on my system. Stan
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 13:29, Stan Glasoe wrote:
Try using alsamixergui instead of Kmix/Kamix. I have better luck with it setting and keeping volumes. This has worked whether Kmix/KAmix were running or not on my system. This is over SUSE 8.1 or 8.2 through 9.1 and (snip) Stan
Hi Stan Without wanting to tempt fate, I agree - this seems to have done the trick. Thanks for the tip. I can live with the uglier (but faster) GUI of alsamixergui than the pretty (unsticky) K* variants. Sanity restored. Steve
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