26 Aug
2007
26 Aug
'07
3:27 p.m.
Dear my friends,
Our company is developing an application for POS. It includes: Cashier Machine, Barcode
reader, Cash Drawer, Credit Card reader and inventory+repository. It's basically a PC
but equipped with the devices for a kind of shop.
We are insist to make opensuse as the priority of its platform. And we need to buy the
machine as the development environment. They are:
1. PC Desktop;
2. Barcode reader;
3. Cash Drawer;
4. Credit card reader.
So now, the question is which devices we should choose to buy so we do not have too much
work to build the application because our "Development Time Frame" is not enough
to also build the device driver, typical device manager software and so on.
If it's possible please also give me the information to buy the device from. Virtual
shop (website) is also OK. We are in Indonesia as the hint if you have the information of
the shop where we can buy the device in offline-way.
Please give me the information pleaseee................ My boss loves opensuse so much to
do his business with. He assigned me to look for the information of suitable devices to
buy for our development environment.
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26 Aug
26 Aug
4:08 p.m.
On Sunday 26 August 2007 06:27, Patrik Hasibuan wrote:
Dear my friends,
Our company is developing an application for POS. It includes: Cashier
Machine, Barcode reader, Cash Drawer, Credit Card reader and
inventory+repository. It's basically a PC but equipped with the devices for
a kind of shop.
We are insist to make opensuse as the priority of its platform. And we need
to buy the machine as the development environment. They are: 1. PC Desktop;
2. Barcode reader;
3. Cash Drawer;
4. Credit card reader.
So now, the question is which devices we should choose to buy so we do not
have too much work to build the application because our "Development Time
Frame" is not enough to also build the device driver, typical device
manager software and so on.
Most of the POS OEM peeps write wintendo API's. Back when I worked for a POS
software development company ('93-'95) we did all our work in DOS or OS/2.
However, if you look around, you'll find some that do write UNIX/Linux apis.
Your barcode scanner will be a simple serial/usb interface. It may not even
have a driver.
The cash drawer and credit card reader may or may not have an interface. I'm
using ones from various manufacters. I'll look on monday to see if they have
*nix drivers.
You probably want to look at the individual devices and see what you can find.
I know that large retailers here in the US often use *nix for their systems.
(I think Lowe's uses it, for example.)
IBM may be a good bet for *nix integration.
If it's possible please also give me the information to buy the device
from. Virtual shop (website) is also OK. We are in Indonesia as the hint if
you have the information of the shop where we can buy the device in
offline-way.
Being in Indonesia, I'm surprised you don't have local suppliers.
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6:07 p.m.
On Sunday 26 August 2007 16:08, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Sunday 26 August 2007 06:27, Patrik Hasibuan
wrote:
I was looking into this area a few years ago, as i was in the progress of
starting my own company.
There were quite a few POS applications for Linux.
IF you decide in developing you own propriety system it shouldn't be much of
a problem either.
Have you made any searches online?
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=Linux+point+…
yields a lot of interesting hits.
There is a Swedish company called Torex that does POS systems for restaurants,
complete with scanners, touchscreens, creditcards and such.
They service /amon others) Hotels, Fashion, Giftshops, Fastfood and a lot
more.
They run their application on either Windows or Linux platforms.
Fast and easy to learn, Very versatile.
http://www.torex.se/
You may want to take a look into that.
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Dear my friends,
Our company is developing an application for POS. It includes: Cashier
Machine, Barcode reader, Cash Drawer, Credit Card reader and
inventory+repository. It's basically a PC but equipped with the devices
for a kind of shop.
We are insist to make opensuse as the priority of its platform. And we
need to buy the machine as the development environment. They are: 1. PC
Desktop; 2. Barcode reader;
3. Cash Drawer;
4. Credit card reader.
So now, the question is which devices we should choose to buy so we do
not have too much work to build the application because our "Development
Time Frame" is not enough to also build the device driver, typical device
manager software and so on.
Most of the POS OEM peeps write wintendo API's. Back when I worked for a
POS software development company ('93-'95) we did all our work in DOS or
OS/2.
However, if you look around, you'll find some that do write UNIX/Linux
apis.
Your barcode scanner will be a simple serial/usb interface. It may not even
have a driver.
The cash drawer and credit card reader may or may not have an interface.
I'm using ones from various manufacters. I'll look on monday to see if they
have *nix drivers.
You probably want to look at the individual devices and see what you can
find. I know that large retailers here in the US often use *nix for their
systems. (I think Lowe's uses it, for example.)
IBM may be a good bet for *nix integration.
If it's possible please also give me the
information to buy the device
from. Virtual shop (website) is also OK. We are in Indonesia as the hint
if you have the information of the shop where we can buy the device in
offline-way.
Being in Indonesia, I'm surprised you don't have local suppliers.
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kai ponte
www.perfectreign.com 
27 Aug
27 Aug
2:19 a.m.
Kai Ponte wrote:
On Sunday 26 August 2007 06:27, Patrik Hasibuan
wrote:
take a look at this
http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpointofservice/partners.html
you may want to talk to novell, they are partners with many 3rd party
organizations that provide solutions or may be able to help you out with
equipment.
I see sles9 in action daily through my employer, we use it to run our cc
terminals in a 180 store retail grocery chain.
steve
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Dear my friends,
Our company is developing an application for POS. It includes: Cashier
Machine, Barcode reader, Cash Drawer, Credit Card reader and
inventory+repository. It's basically a PC but equipped with the devices for
a kind of shop.
We are insist to make opensuse as the priority of its platform. And we need
to buy the machine as the development environment. They are: 1. PC Desktop;
2. Barcode reader;
3. Cash Drawer;
4. Credit card reader.
So now, the question is which devices we should choose to buy so we do not
have too much work to build the application because our "Development Time
Frame" is not enough to also build the device driver, typical device
manager software and so on.
Most of the POS OEM peeps write wintendo API's. Back when I worked for a POS
software development company ('93-'95) we did all our work in DOS or OS/2.
However, if you look around, you'll find some that do write UNIX/Linux apis.
Your barcode scanner will be a simple serial/usb interface. It may not even
have a driver.
The cash drawer and credit card reader may or may not have an interface. I'm
using ones from various manufacters. I'll look on monday to see if they have
*nix drivers.
You probably want to look at the individual devices and see what you can find.
I know that large retailers here in the US often use *nix for their systems.
(I think Lowe's uses it, for example.)
IBM may be a good bet for *nix integration.
If it's possible please also give me the
information to buy the device
from. Virtual shop (website) is also OK. We are in Indonesia as the hint if
you have the information of the shop where we can buy the device in
offline-way.
Being in Indonesia, I'm surprised you don't have local suppliers.
26 Aug
26 Aug
6:50 p.m.
Hi Patrik,
On 26/08/07, Patrik Hasibuan <patrikh(a)penguin-teknologi.com> wrote:
[...]
We are insist to make opensuse as the priority of its platform. And we need to buy the
machine as the development environment. They are:
1. PC Desktop;
2. Barcode reader;
3. Cash Drawer;
4. Credit card reader.
We implemented a POS system on openSUSE about 9 months ago.
The only POS printer that we could find that already have drivers is
the Fenix Imvico SM2000.
http://www.feniximvico.com/catalogo.php?ididioma=EN&id_pro=7&id_cat…
The driver for CUPS is available for download.
http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=FenixImvico-SM_2000
Almost any barcode scanner will work as it acts as a keyboard.
We used the Metrologic Eclipse M5145
http://www.metrologic.com/corporate/products/pos/ms5145.htm
We also used a bar scanner from DigiPos:
http://www.digipos-systems.co.za/sd303more.asp
We used an Aqsonic cash drawer, but any cash drawer should work, they
plug into the printer and the printer open the cash drawer. We used
the development driver of the SM2000 and it could not yet open the
drawer, but the production version should be able to do it.
If you want to write your application in Java, or maybe just write an
integration portion in Java, you can look at JavaPOS.
http://www.javapos.com/
This supports a number of POS hardware.
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8:01 p.m.
On Sunday 26 August 2007 09:50, Andre Truter wrote:
Hi Patrik,
On 26/08/07, Patrik Hasibuan <patrikh(a)penguin-teknologi.com> wrote:
[...]
Yeah, I've implemented a few hundred Epsons at work and they do not - as of
yet - have Linux drivers.
They do, however, support a Java environment, which can be used in any OS.
http://www.pos.epson-europe.com/support/drivers.htm
I haven't tried the jpos drivers yet. Since my system was coded in C# to
begin with, it shouldn't be much trouble to convert to mono.net or even have
a component in java to run under *nix.
Here's the POS layout...
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/lacrr/era_test_cashier_lg.jpg
Oh, and we're printing barcode labels using either Dymo or Zebra label
printers. Haven't checked on the SUSE-ability of either yet.
So far, the only way to get it to run on SUSE is under VMWare...
http://www.perfectreign.com/files/images/20070622_ERA_Linux2_1.jpg
We are insist to make opensuse as the priority of
its platform. And we
need to buy the machine as the development environment. They are: 1. PC
Desktop;
2. Barcode reader;
3. Cash Drawer;
4. Credit card reader.
We implemented a POS system on openSUSE about 9 months ago.
The only POS printer that we could find that already have drivers is
the Fenix Imvico SM2000.
http://www.feniximvico.com/catalogo.php?ididioma=EN&id_pro=7&id_cat… 
The driver for CUPS is available for download.
http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=FenixImvico-SM_2000
Almost any barcode scanner will work as it acts as a keyboard.
We used the Metrologic Eclipse M5145
http://www.metrologic.com/corporate/products/pos/ms5145.htm
We also used a bar scanner from DigiPos:
http://www.digipos-systems.co.za/sd303more.asp
We used an Aqsonic cash drawer, but any cash drawer should work, they
plug into the printer and the printer open the cash drawer. We used
the development driver of the SM2000 and it could not yet open the
drawer, but the production version should be able to do it.
If you want to write your application in Java, or maybe just write an
integration portion in Java, you can look at JavaPOS.
http://www.javapos.com/
This supports a number of POS hardware.
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Andre Truter | Software Consultant | Registered Linux user #185282
Jabber: andre.truter(a)gmail.com | http://www.trusoft.co.za
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19 Sep
19 Sep
3:24 a.m.
On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 11:01 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
Yeah, I've implemented a few hundred Epsons at work and they do not - as of
yet - have Linux drivers.
I use Epson Action lazer 1500 but I use its HP emulation.
Most Epsons have HP modes.
Quite a few local small business use this model BW only.
Slower than new but built like a tank about 30lb.
Good thing because my cat is 25lb and likes to sleep on it.
So I keep it covered most days.
CWSIV
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10:53 a.m.
On 26/08/2007, Kai Ponte <kai(a)perfectreign.com> wrote:
Oh, and we're printing barcode labels using either Dymo or Zebra label
printers. Haven't checked on the SUSE-ability of either yet.
We tested Zebra label printers on SUSE for a client and they work very
well. CUPS include zebra drivers. The company that develops CUPS
(Easy Software Products) also use Zebra and Dymo label printers.
(Zebra LP-2844Z and Dymo Labelwriter 330 Turbo).
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26 Aug
26 Aug
8:12 p.m.
Hi Patrik,
We are insist to make opensuse as the priority of its
platform. And we need to buy the machine as the development environment. They are:
1. PC Desktop;
2. Barcode reader;
3. Cash Drawer;
4. Credit card reader.
If the programming language is Java, there is JavaPOS -
which is
platform independent and almost all device providers have JavaPOS
drivers these days. These drivers support enable/disable etc. so instead
of using wedge-device settings for the readers you can actually control
them properly.
For the credit card, you're on your own. Most of these talk quite
specific APIs but there is an open cash point solution from some guy in
Venezuela but the name escapes my memory at the moment.
For disclosure, I work for a software company specialising on writing
POS software. We use JavaPOS (obviously) and Linux (IRES or NLPOS) or
WEPOS (or embedded XP or Win2k before that).
IBM has excellent POS machines with SuSE and JavaPOS support. They also
have an integrated till build environment called IRES (which uses
SLES9/NLDesktop 9)(IRES stands for IBM Retail Environment for SuSE).
For OpenSUSE, I'm not sure if any hardware vendor would be ready to
support it. Unfortunately they only see SLES/RHEL as viable distributions.
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27 Aug
1:13 a.m.
Patrik Hasibuan escribió:
Dear my friends,
Our company is developing an application for POS. It includes: Cashier Machine, Barcode
reader, Cash Drawer, Credit Card reader and inventory+repository. It's basically a PC
but equipped with the devices for a kind of shop.
http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpointofservice/
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stop reading them." --Ray Bradbury
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