HI J et al.... On Tuesday 14 September 2004 21:39, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:

*** Reply to message from Josephine on Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:12:03 +0200 One more candle and a trip around the Sun***

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Have fun shopping and yes, EOS 300D is a great camera.

Is this the one that uses "rebel" lenses or does it come w/ a built in one and that's that? As a confirmed 35mm semi pro I have yet to find a

Yes, it comes with a removeable lense and is under 1000€, this is what I like about it. It looks like as soon as I can get to town (middle of October or so) I will be getting this camera. I looked at the Digicam software I expect I will be using that. Tis a pity that all the software that comes with the camera is for W$. I wonder if I can trade it to someone? Heck, maybe I'll just give it away. <G>

digitaaal amera that gives me the opertunity to shoot in as many places w/ available light and still produce a good picture, and an occassional great one. Popup flahs units aren't mounted just right , as far as I can tell, and if I HAVE to use a flash I'd rather use a bounce

One review of the camera did say that the flash was not real good. But the reviewer suggested getting a 50mm lense, then you can get very good pictures even with candlelight.

anyway... and worst of all, at least of all the ones I've seen the results from so far, digicams, even some rather pricey ones have cr@ppy lenses.

I can see this, but this camera has about 300 different lense made that will fit on it. So I expect that I can get good enough lenses. Also at the moment not being a pro. I can put up with a less than perfit one. Maybe later I'll want better stuff. Thanks everyone, I'll let you guys know how it turned out when I get something. JIM -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 ------------------------------------------------------                 WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.fuzzybunnymilitia.org/~hatridge/bulletin Viel Feind -- Viel Ehr' Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.fuzzybunnymilitia.org/~hatridge/collection

* Doug McGarrett [09-15-04 09:02]:

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Canon has at least one camera that uses standard lenses from 35 mm cameras. It's an SLR, and it has been fairly expensive. I haven't tried it, but a friend of mine swears by the Canon line, and has produced extremely nice pictures with it. If you are somewhere with a decent camera store, why not try one out? They might even rent you one for a couple of days.

Notice that Canon refuses to support linux and/or allow access to source for drivers. Also, *any* digital camera that supports removable media which has a usb-card-reader available and writes files in non-proprietary format is compatable with linux distros that support usb. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

* jfweber@bellsouth.net [09-15-04 14:21]:

yup. We used to have the same problems in OS/2 But, as you say almost all of these companies take the roundabout support mode of using "standard" formats to store the pics in.. Will be iinteresting to see how many come round to more support if Asia does actually go largely linux... That would be a huge market to pass up.

Guess I must have missed a lot then, I left OS/2 in '98 after exclusive use beginning with the pre 2.0 beta. Was a good thing, but I have come to like/love linux better. I believe that I saw you on the OS/2 lists, but it has been a while. :^)...[ -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

At 07:28 PM 9/14/2004 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:

At 02:39 PM 9/14/2004 -0500, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:

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*** Reply to message from Josephine on Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:12:03 +0200 One more candle and a trip around the Sun***

...

Have fun shopping and yes, EOS 300D is a great camera.

Is this the one that uses "rebel" lenses or does it come w/ a built in one and that's that? As a confirmed 35mm semi pro I have yet to find a digitaaal amera that gives me the opertunity to shoot in as many places w/ available light and still produce a good picture, and an occassional great one. Popup flahs units aren't mounted just right , as far as I can tell, and if I HAVE to use a flash I'd rather use a bounce anyway... and worst of all, at least of all the ones I've seen the results from so far, digicams, even some rather pricey ones have cr@ppy lenses.

-- j -- /snip--new reply/

Well, if price is no object, you might want to look at this Canon. It takes ef and ef-s lenses, and a Canon external flash, as well as having a built- in flash. You can turn off the built-in flash and just use the external. 8.8 MP resolution, CMOS sensor, ISO 100 to 1600. Of course, the noise will be greater at the higher ISO values, but this is also true with film, except we call it "grain." As you may know, CMOS is the more desireable sensor for digital photography. The camera (body only) sells in the US from several sources for $1500, and the flash is a bit over $500. You probably know what lenses cost. See this url: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/E20D/E20DA.HTM It looks to me like this is their current top-of-line model. If you go back up the chain, you will find the Canon that takes EOS lenses, and something they call the "Digital Rebel," neither of which I looked at. The site also has other makes and models, and a google search for digital camera reviews provides tons of them. --doug /old reply follows/

Canon has at least one camera that uses standard lenses from 35 mm cameras. It's an SLR, and it has been fairly expensive. I haven't tried it, but a friend of mine swears by the Canon line, and has produced extremely nice pictures with it. If you are somewhere with a decent camera store, why not try one out? They might even rent you one for a couple of days.

--doug

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On Tuesday 14 September 2004 08:46, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:

*** Reply to message from James Hatridge on Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:17:22 +0200 One more candle and a trip around the Sun***

Jim,

As everyone else has said, any camera that uses cf or sd cards will work just fine in Linux. I've neveer quite understood why anyone would want to rather precariously ballance their camera while they connect it to a usb port that for some reason is always located where you can't quite reach it.. You have to use your cameras batteries, which are always worth more for shooting than for reading data .

It's just depends on the way you look at it. I have an USB (4) port and this sits in a *convenient* place. Anyway, the cable is connected to this hub permanently and all I have to do is connect it to my camera. AFA the batteries: it takes only seconds for the photo's to come up in Digi-kam and seconds to download. ( and if you use rechareable batteries it shouldn't be a problem after all ) I use to have a card reader before but it took minutes before the pictures came up and now just seconds. Remember:"Love is Hate. War is Peace. Windows is Stable." -- Anonymous Greetings from /bill at 169 west , 19 south. Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors."