[SLE] Newbie KDE or GNOME?
Hi there, A little confused and of course personal bias cannot be denied I'm running SuSE 6.3 and was told by a Redhat specialist that Redhat was the one to stay with for long term and also that Gnome was closer to windows ease than Kde. So I went to his house to check things out and his Gnome was configured quite nicely. He showed me how easy it was for hin to get to printtool,etc.My Gnome screen is bad compared to his. Personally I was just getting used to Kde (about 2 weeks). He told me that Redhat doesn't have problems in a window mgr. like wrong letters being typed from keyboard when in Xterm window of either Kde or Gnome. I know a few of you have told me SuSE is really in itself a leader of many standards but is there any truth to the xterm thing and which do you prefer to use as far as all the above? Thanks for your help, Dave Willcox :-) PS. I think you are all great as far as help and response to this list. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Well this is one of those religous wars, some people hate KDE some GNOME. As a personal thing I like both. The follwing are me impressions. KDE Plus points More robust than Gnome (ie less crashes) Very similar to Windows interface is some respects (some think this is a bad thing) Very good filemanager (KFM) Very good release cycle (ie new releases are very stable) Minus points Very similar to Windows Not as customizable in the looks department as Gnome (but KDE 2 will be) Long wait between new releases (but this is what nakes it stable - the developers test it a lot !) Gnome Plus Very configurable Very fast Seem to be a lot of apps useing GTK (the Gnome tool kit) so they integrate well. Fast release cycle Minus Not so stable No mailreader in core distribution yet (and Balsa is still very beta) There are also technical differences between the way the two are written which I am not qualified to comment on as I am not a programmer. It is said by some that Gnome is better technically though. Personally I would say install both and see which you like. I do and use Gnome to make people go oooh ahh isn't it pretty and KDE to get some work done. Pat On Thu Feb 24, at 22:12, David Willcox wrote:
Hi there,
A little confused and of course personal bias cannot be denied I'm running SuSE 6.3 and was told by a Redhat specialist that Redhat was the one to stay with for long term and also that Gnome was closer to windows ease than Kde. So I went to his house to check things out and his Gnome was configured quite nicely. He showed me how easy it was for hin to get to printtool,etc.My Gnome screen is bad compared to his. Personally I was just getting used to Kde (about 2 weeks). He told me that Redhat doesn't have problems in a window mgr. like wrong letters being typed from keyboard when in Xterm window of either Kde or Gnome. I know a few of you have told me SuSE is really in itself a leader of many standards but is there any truth to the xterm thing and which do you prefer to use as far as all the above?
Thanks for your help,
Dave Willcox :-)
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Well this is one of those religous wars, some people hate KDE some GNOME.
Some people hate BOTH. Believe me when I say I'm not flaming, but I am at philosophical odds with this year-old notion, you see it in the press, "two GUIs to choose from in Linux"--when in fact there are many more. Sure, it's better than the old "no GUI to choose from in Linux" which was equally false--but let me put in a good word for Window Maker and XFCE (and FVWM, and...). True that they're not as well-suited for brand-spanking-new users, but they're faster and more efficient--and often equally customizable as either KDE or GNOME--and usually usable in conjunction with either of these.
As a personal thing I like both. The follwing are me impressions.
Me too, though I use neither.
KDE
Plus points
More robust than Gnome (ie less crashes)
Agreed.
Very similar to Windows interface is some respects (some think this is a bad thing)
Yep, but FVWM95 can be made even more similar in many respects.
Very good filemanager (KFM)
No further comment. ;>
Very good release cycle (ie new releases are very stable)
Yes but not before version 1.1. KDE 1.0 was competing with Netscape for the memory leakage award.
Gnome
Plus
Very configurable
Actually, it's Enlightenment that's so configurable, it seems.
Very fast
Not on low-resource systems. You want performance on a 486/33 with 4M RAM, you gotta go with NT. |{>
Seem to be a lot of apps useing GTK (the Gnome tool kit) so they integrate well.
Until something comes along (like XFCE, someone should talk to him about this) and re-writes your .gtkrc file and ya got a black-on-blue selection field in, e.g., Netscape and can't see which URL you just typed in.
Fast release cycle
i.e., still many bugs being fixed.
I'm running SuSE 6.3 and was told by a Redhat specialist that Redhat was the one to stay with for long term and also that Gnome
Again, not a flame, just a true personal preference, but I would rather run Windows than Red Hat--and I would rather run nothing at all than Windows. I ran RH for 2 yrs before trying other distributions. I've never looked back.
Personally I was just getting used to Kde (about 2 weeks). He told me that Redhat doesn't have problems in a window mgr. like wrong
Of course it doesn't. Instead, it makes certain that semi-novice users have to choose either KDE or GNOME until they learn enough to edit a half-dozen non-standard configuration files that aren't to be found in any distribution other than Red Hat.
letters being typed from keyboard when in Xterm window of either Kde or Gnome.
Actually, if you're referring to what I think you are, this is a UNIX thing, including Linux, and would always be a problem were not most distributions kind enough to set it straight before shipping. ----- No flames intended here, just my $.02 on this thread. Throw them in the bit-bucket if you like. :) Best wishes, REM moonr@mindspring.com ICQ uin 39952184 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Wow. Four major questions, one composer ;). On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, David Willcox wrote:
Hi there,
A little confused and of course personal bias cannot be denied I'm running SuSE 6.3 and was told by a Redhat specialist that Redhat was the one to stay with for long term
Rubbish. We're not talking about QDOS vs. CPM/80, here. It's not about market leverage or advertising money. It's about choice. Find what's comfortable, and use it; even if it's not SuSE ;).
and also that Gnome was closer to windows ease than Kde.
More rubbish. One is no more `Windows-like' than the other. Each has their own respective quirks. See above ;).
So I went to his house to check things out and his Gnome was configured quite nicely. He showed me how easy it was for hin to get to printtool,etc.
Printtool is nifty, to be sure, but almost all of that can be done through YaST.
My Gnome screen is bad compared to his. Personally I was just getting used to Kde (about 2 weeks). He told me that Redhat doesn't have problems in a window mgr. like wrong letters being typed from keyboard when in Xterm window of either Kde or Gnome.
Perhaps the default GNOME/E configuration in SuSE's distribution is a bit weak in comparison to RedHat's, but consider the weakness of *their* KDE implementation. IOW: See above. As for the keymapping issues, that can be adjusted, with relatively low time investment.
I know a few of you have told me SuSE is really in itself a leader of many standards but is there any truth to the xterm thing and which do you prefer to use as far as all the above?
I use KDE's desktop services (color, sound, icons) with the Blackbox window manager (paging, window decoration), and WTerm for a terminal emulator (based on rxvt but better tuned and lower memory footprint). This has been my configuration for about three or more months, after five years of using Linux. Don't ask me what I'll be using in three years, but this is what I like now. This is what I've *chosen* for myself, because this is what is *comfortable*. See above ;).
Thanks for your help,
Dave Willcox :-)
PS. I think you are all great as far as help and response to this list.
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote:
Wow. Four major questions, one composer ;).
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, David Willcox wrote:
Hi there,
A little confused and of course personal bias cannot be denied I'm running SuSE 6.3 and was told by a Redhat specialist that Redhat was the one to stay with for long term
Rubbish. We're not talking about QDOS vs. CPM/80, here. It's not about market leverage or advertising money. It's about choice. Find what's comfortable, and use it; even if it's not SuSE ;).
and also that Gnome was closer to windows ease than Kde.
More rubbish. One is no more `Windows-like' than the other. Each has their own respective quirks. See above ;).
So I went to his house to check things out and his Gnome was configured quite nicely. He showed me how easy it was for hin to get to printtool,etc.
Printtool is nifty, to be sure, but almost all of that can be done through YaST.
My Gnome screen is bad compared to his. Personally I was just getting used to Kde (about 2 weeks). He told me that Redhat doesn't have problems in a window mgr. like wrong letters being typed from keyboard when in Xterm window of either Kde or Gnome.
Perhaps the default GNOME/E configuration in SuSE's distribution is a bit weak in comparison to RedHat's, but consider the weakness of *their* KDE implementation. IOW: See above. As for the keymapping issues, that can be adjusted, with relatively low time investment.
I know a few of you have told me SuSE is really in itself a leader of many standards but is there any truth to the xterm thing and which do you prefer to use as far as all the above?
I use KDE's desktop services (color, sound, icons) with the Blackbox window manager (paging, window decoration), and WTerm for a terminal emulator (based on rxvt but better tuned and lower memory footprint). This has been my configuration for about three or more months, after five years of using Linux. Don't ask me what I'll be using in three years, but this is what I like now. This is what I've *chosen* for myself, because this is what is *comfortable*. See above ;).
Hi everyone. We have tried millions of window managers and KDE desktops. We simply use KDE because it doesn't crash anymore. Gnome does. So we use KDE. So if gnome doesn't crash for you, you like it and you use it, then stay with it. Otherwise xterm works great for us. Advice: You don't like SuSE! Best wishes from Clara (yes a girl) at FeF, Spain. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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