On 03/20/2012 05:19 PM, Dennis Gallien wrote:

On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 03:02 PM Robert Benjamin wrote:

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Installed from the link above and have an icon on the desktop. Clicking it open vbox with the left side blank, and "New" is active (color) and the other icons like settings, start etc are grayed out .I guess this is where I should start. I assume I click new and things will be OK. LOL Will try tomorrow. Thanks for your help and patience with a newbie. Bob

What you're seeing is the vbox manager. The "New" is for creating a new virtual machine, i.e., installing an operating system. You will need to create a virtual disk, which is simply a file which has either a fixed size or is dynamically enlarged as needed up to the specified limit. Go through the screens to create your virtual hardware configuration. Be sure to include access to whatever device you'll be using for installing the OS (e.g., the optical drive). Then install the OS as you would normally. Afterward install the "Guest Additions" which are needed for some key features (IIRC this is available from the vm's menu). The package installation should have already set up all the kernel modules for your openSUSE host OS, so nothing more needed there, other than adding your user to the vboxusers group if that's not already done.

Finally, I strongly recommend browsing thru the manual. While lengthy, it is very comprehensive and you'll most likely learn about capabilities that you will like and would not have known about otherwise.

Good luck.

Dan, I have read a good part of the manual and did learn things from it but it is a bit confusing in parts.Will read it over again before starting the manager. The confusing part for me is about the extensions, USB support, and whether to choose a fixed or dynamically enlarged disc. Will read stuff again and then try. Will let you know and thanks again. Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 3/21/2012 7:35 AM, C wrote:

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:04, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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Dan, I have read a good part of the manual and did learn things from it but it is a bit confusing in parts.Will read it over again before starting the manager. The confusing part for me is about the extensions, USB support, and whether to choose a fixed or dynamically enlarged disc. Will read stuff again and then try. Will let you know and thanks again. Bob

If you want to simply things.... do this (assuming you have installed VirtualBox 4.1.10):

- Install the VirtualBox 4.1.10 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack from here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads So, download the extension pack, then start VirtualBox, click on File> Preferences> Extensions. On the right hand side of the window is a blue diamond with an orange triangle.. click on it and select the extension pack you downloaded. This will install the extensions.

- Don't stress about USB support.. it's taken care of by the extension pack

- The difference between fixed and dynamic disks is... If you choose fixed, then then entire virtual disk you define is reserved on your host hard drive. If you choose dynamic, then the virtual disk you define will slowly grow up to but not over the size you define. So... fixed 8GB disk will be an 8GB file on your hard drive. An 8GB dynamic disk might only be a 2GB file after installing your guest OS, but it can grow up to 8GB. Does that make sense?

Defining a new Virtual Machine is easy. Just follow the wizard, and for your first trials, you are safe to accept the defaults it presents. The only tweaks I ever suggest is adjusting how much RAM you give your virtual machine (I recommend never more than 50% of your Host RAM), and adjusting the Display settings (eg maxing out the video memory, and enabling 3D acceleration and if you have Windows, 2D acceleration).

After you install, you definitely want to install teh Guest Additions in the guest OS as Dennis G mentioned

I hope these tips help... and like the others said.. read the manual.. it's well written, and quite helpful. Also, don't be afraid to ask for help if you get stuck. the first virtual machine you create is the most intimidating, but after that it just gets easier :-) and you'll wonder how you managed without a tool like VirtulaBox.

C.

Thanks guys. I may have goofed here. OpenSuse is on a HD by itself (320 GB). I want win 7 as a guest, but it came installed on a 500GB HD. My HDs are removable, so when openSuse is in the PC it is the only HD in the case. So how can I get win 7 as a guest. I don't have a win CD or DVD. Just the disc that comes with PCs. Don't know how the openSuse host will see win 7 since it isn't in the PC. At this point, I just wanted to run a few win programs. Can I still do this? Thanks again Dennis and C. Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 3/21/2012 8:35 AM, Jide Ogunmekan wrote:

On 03/21/2012 05:24 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 3/21/2012 7:35 AM, C wrote:

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On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:04, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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Dan, I have read a good part of the manual and did learn things from it but it is a bit confusing in parts.Will read it over again before starting the manager. The confusing part for me is about the extensions, USB support, and whether to choose a fixed or dynamically enlarged disc. Will read stuff again and then try. Will let you know and thanks again. Bob

If you want to simply things.... do this (assuming you have installed VirtualBox 4.1.10):

- Install the VirtualBox 4.1.10 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack from here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads So, download the extension pack, then start VirtualBox, click on File> Preferences> Extensions. On the right hand side of the window is a blue diamond with an orange triangle.. click on it and select the extension pack you downloaded. This will install the extensions.

- Don't stress about USB support.. it's taken care of by the extension pack

- The difference between fixed and dynamic disks is... If you choose fixed, then then entire virtual disk you define is reserved on your host hard drive. If you choose dynamic, then the virtual disk you define will slowly grow up to but not over the size you define. So... fixed 8GB disk will be an 8GB file on your hard drive. An 8GB dynamic disk might only be a 2GB file after installing your guest OS, but it can grow up to 8GB. Does that make sense?

Defining a new Virtual Machine is easy. Just follow the wizard, and for your first trials, you are safe to accept the defaults it presents. The only tweaks I ever suggest is adjusting how much RAM you give your virtual machine (I recommend never more than 50% of your Host RAM), and adjusting the Display settings (eg maxing out the video memory, and enabling 3D acceleration and if you have Windows, 2D acceleration).

After you install, you definitely want to install teh Guest Additions in the guest OS as Dennis G mentioned

I hope these tips help... and like the others said.. read the manual.. it's well written, and quite helpful. Also, don't be afraid to ask for help if you get stuck. the first virtual machine you create is the most intimidating, but after that it just gets easier :-) and you'll wonder how you managed without a tool like VirtulaBox.

C. Thanks guys. I may have goofed here. OpenSuse is on a HD by itself (320 GB). I want win 7 as a guest, but it came installed on a 500GB HD. My HDs are removable, so when openSuse is in the PC it is the only HD in the case. So how can I get win 7 as a guest. I don't have a win CD or DVD. Just the disc that comes with PCs. Don't know how the openSuse host will see win 7 since it isn't in the PC. At this point, I just wanted to run a few win programs. Can I still do this? Thanks again Dennis and C.

Bob

Hi Bob,

Seems your computer has two hard disks from what you say. Your PC should have the windows 7 disks somewhere on the windows disk or a utility that enables you create a windows 7 rescue or install disk or something of the like. Once you have done this, you should have your windows 7 disk handy. To run windows 7 as a guest, you need to boot your machine into openSuSE and install the virtualbox VM software. Then you need to create a new virtual machine to accommodate in windows 7 and commence installation via the disk you created earlier. Hope this helps

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There is only one HD in the PC. My son-in law modified the case so that I can insert a HD into a tray, slide it in the PC and boot up with that HD with whatever OS is on it. So when openSuse is in the PC that is the only OS the PC "sees". I don't have a windows install disc, just the data disc that I made from Dell's data safe program when I got the PC. Will this data safe disc be OK? Hope so. That's all I have. Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 3/21/2012 9:20 AM, Mark Misulich wrote:

On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 12:56 -0400, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 3/21/2012 8:35 AM, Jide Ogunmekan wrote:

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On 03/21/2012 05:24 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 3/21/2012 7:35 AM, C wrote:

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On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:04, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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Dan, I have read a good part of the manual and did learn things from it but it is a bit confusing in parts.Will read it over again before starting the manager. The confusing part for me is about the extensions, USB support, and whether to choose a fixed or dynamically enlarged disc. Will read stuff again and then try. Will let you know and thanks again. Bob

If you want to simply things.... do this (assuming you have installed VirtualBox 4.1.10):

- Install the VirtualBox 4.1.10 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack from here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads So, download the extension pack, then start VirtualBox, click on File> Preferences> Extensions. On the right hand side of the window is a blue diamond with an orange triangle.. click on it and select the extension pack you downloaded. This will install the extensions.

- Don't stress about USB support.. it's taken care of by the extension pack

- The difference between fixed and dynamic disks is... If you choose fixed, then then entire virtual disk you define is reserved on your host hard drive. If you choose dynamic, then the virtual disk you define will slowly grow up to but not over the size you define. So... fixed 8GB disk will be an 8GB file on your hard drive. An 8GB dynamic disk might only be a 2GB file after installing your guest OS, but it can grow up to 8GB. Does that make sense?

Defining a new Virtual Machine is easy. Just follow the wizard, and for your first trials, you are safe to accept the defaults it presents. The only tweaks I ever suggest is adjusting how much RAM you give your virtual machine (I recommend never more than 50% of your Host RAM), and adjusting the Display settings (eg maxing out the video memory, and enabling 3D acceleration and if you have Windows, 2D acceleration).

After you install, you definitely want to install teh Guest Additions in the guest OS as Dennis G mentioned

I hope these tips help... and like the others said.. read the manual.. it's well written, and quite helpful. Also, don't be afraid to ask for help if you get stuck. the first virtual machine you create is the most intimidating, but after that it just gets easier :-) and you'll wonder how you managed without a tool like VirtulaBox.

C. Thanks guys. I may have goofed here. OpenSuse is on a HD by itself (320 GB). I want win 7 as a guest, but it came installed on a 500GB HD. My HDs are removable, so when openSuse is in the PC it is the only HD in the case. So how can I get win 7 as a guest. I don't have a win CD or DVD. Just the disc that comes with PCs. Don't know how the openSuse host will see win 7 since it isn't in the PC. At this point, I just wanted to run a few win programs. Can I still do this? Thanks again Dennis and C.

Bob Hi Bob,

Seems your computer has two hard disks from what you say. Your PC should have the windows 7 disks somewhere on the windows disk or a utility that enables you create a windows 7 rescue or install disk or something of the like. Once you have done this, you should have your windows 7 disk handy. To run windows 7 as a guest, you need to boot your machine into openSuSE and install the virtualbox VM software. Then you need to create a new virtual machine to accommodate in windows 7 and commence installation via the disk you created earlier. Hope this helps

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There is only one HD in the PC. My son-in law modified the case so that I can insert a HD into a tray, slide it in the PC and boot up with that HD with whatever OS is on it. So when openSuse is in the PC that is the only OS the PC "sees". I don't have a windows install disc, just the data disc that I made from Dell's data safe program when I got the PC. Will this data safe disc be OK? Hope so. That's all I have. Bob Hi, are you able to install both hard drives in the computer at the same time? The easiest way to get both operating systems going would be to have both hard drives installed in the computer and let the grub bootloader decide which operating system on which disk you want to activate when starting up the computer.

If you can reply to this question first before I give the details of how to do it, then it might save some time and we can procede from there.

Unfortunately no, I can only have one HD in the PC at a time.

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On 3/21/2012 9:20 AM, Mark Misulich wrote:

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On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 12:56 -0400, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 3/21/2012 7:35 AM, C wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:04, Robert > Benjamin wrote: >> Dan, I have read a good part of the manual and did learn >> things >> from it >> but it is a bit confusing in parts.Will read it over again before >> starting >> the manager. The confusing part for me is about the extensions, USB >> support, >> and whether to choose a fixed or dynamically enlarged disc. Will >> read stuff >> again and then try. Will let you know and thanks again. >> Bob > If you want to simply things.... do this (assuming you have > installed > VirtualBox 4.1.10): > > - Install the VirtualBox 4.1.10 Oracle VM VirtualBox > Extension Pack > from here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads So, > download the > extension pack, then start VirtualBox, click on File> > Preferences> > Extensions. On the right hand side of the window is a blue diamond > with an orange triangle.. click on it and select the extension pack > you downloaded. This will install the extensions. > > - Don't stress about USB support.. it's taken care of by the > extension pack > > - The difference between fixed and dynamic disks is... If you choose > fixed, then then entire virtual disk you define is reserved on your > host hard drive. If you choose dynamic, then the virtual disk you > define will slowly grow up to but not over the size you define. > So... > fixed 8GB disk will be an 8GB file on your hard drive. An 8GB > dynamic > disk might only be a 2GB file after installing your guest OS, but it > can grow up to 8GB. Does that make sense? > > Defining a new Virtual Machine is easy. Just follow the wizard, and > for your first trials, you are safe to accept the defaults it > presents. The only tweaks I ever suggest is adjusting how much RAM > you give your virtual machine (I recommend never more than 50% of > your > Host RAM), and adjusting the Display settings (eg maxing out the > video > memory, and enabling 3D acceleration and if you have Windows, 2D > acceleration). > > After you install, you definitely want to install teh Guest > Additions > in the guest OS as Dennis G mentioned > > I hope these tips help... and like the others said.. read the > manual.. > it's well written, and quite helpful. Also, don't be afraid to ask > for help if you get stuck. the first virtual machine you create is > the most intimidating, but after that it just gets easier :-) and > you'll wonder how you managed without a tool like VirtulaBox. > > C. Thanks guys. I may have goofed here. OpenSuse is on a HD by itself (320 GB). I want win 7 as a guest, but it came installed on a 500GB HD. My HDs are removable, so when openSuse is in the PC it is the only HD in the case. So how can I get win 7 as a guest. I don't have a win CD or DVD. Just the disc that comes with PCs. Don't know how the openSuse host will see win 7 since it isn't in the PC. At this point, I just wanted to run a few win programs. Can I still do this? Thanks again Dennis and C.

Bob Hi Bob,

Seems your computer has two hard disks from what you say. Your PC should have the windows 7 disks somewhere on the windows disk or a utility that enables you create a windows 7 rescue or install disk or something of the like. Once you have done this, you should have your windows 7 disk handy. To run windows 7 as a guest, you need to boot your machine into openSuSE and install the virtualbox VM software. Then you need to create a new virtual machine to accommodate in windows 7 and commence installation via the disk you created earlier. Hope this helps

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There is only one HD in the PC. My son-in law modified the case so that I can insert a HD into a tray, slide it in the PC and boot up with that HD with whatever OS is on it. So when openSuse is in the PC that is the only OS the PC "sees". I don't have a windows install disc, just the data disc that I made from Dell's data safe program when I got the PC. Will this data safe disc be OK? Hope so. That's all I have. Bob Hi, are you able to install both hard drives in the computer at the same time? The easiest way to get both operating systems going would be to have both hard drives installed in the computer and let the grub bootloader decide which operating system on which disk you want to activate when starting up the computer.

If you can reply to this question first before I give the details of how to do it, then it might save some time and we can procede from there.

Unfortunately no, I can only have one HD in the PC at a time.

So you have only one disk in the PC and another one which you remove and put in a tray when you want to run opensuse is that correct? One HD in the PC. That's it. So ... if openSuse HD is in the PC

On 3/21/2012 9:34 AM, Jide Ogunmekan wrote: then that's what I use. If I want to use win 7, I have to shut down, remove the HD with openSuse on it, and insert my HD with win 7 on it and turn the PC back on. I actually have 4 separate HDs with win 7, openSuse, Fedora 16 and Ubuntu 11.10. So I can use whichever one I want, just have to shut down, remove the HD that's in there and put in one that I want. The HDs are in a mobile rack from Addonics www.addonics.com It's the snap-in series. The rack is mounted in the PC and you open it, slip in an HD, close it and lock it then boot the PC. I think the web page has a picture of the rack. Meanwhile, I'll look for the legal info on the PC or in the booklet so I can get the win 7 iso legally. Thanks again. Bob

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If you can reply to this question first before I give the details of how to do it, then it might save some time and we can procede from there.

Unfortunately no, I can only have one HD in the PC at a time. So you have only one disk in the PC and another one which you remove and put in a tray when you want to run opensuse is that correct? One HD in the PC. That's it. So ... if openSuse HD is in the PC then that's what I use. If I want to use win 7, I have to shut down, remove the HD with openSuse on it, and insert my HD with win 7 on it and turn the PC back on. I actually have 4 separate HDs with win 7, openSuse, Fedora 16 and Ubuntu 11.10. So I can use whichever one I want, just have to shut down, remove the HD that's in there and put in one that I want. The HDs are in a mobile rack from Addonics www.addonics.com It's the snap-in series. The rack is mounted in the PC and you open it, slip in an HD, close it and lock it then boot the PC. I think the web page has a picture of the rack. Meanwhile, I'll look for the legal info on the PC or in the booklet so I can get the win 7 iso legally. Thanks again. Bob Hi, I took a look at the HD mount that you talk about in your post. It looks like it fits in one of the optical disk drive bays and allows you to remove the HD from the front of the computer. If I have this all wrong, you can correct me easily. You have it right. You just unlock it and flip the door open and

On 3/21/2012 2:30 PM, Mark Misulich wrote: the HD comes out like it shows. It does fir in one of the optical drive bays. You may have to modify the case at the front to get that rack to fit. If it is the situation that this HD mount is a sort of add-on unit that fits in the optical drive bay, is it possible that there are internal mounting bays for hard drives that are only accessible by taking the side cover off of the computer? Not sure about internal mounting bays. The one I use is accessible from the front of the PC tower. It just opens lie the picture shows on that web page. It has to be connected inside the case in an empty drive bay. Knowledgeable guys like you should have no problem connecting it. Just be sure you have 2 bays in case one is used by a HD. My PC is a Dell Inspiron which is about 1 1/2 years old. They may have modified the bays. Do you have a link to win 7 .iso legal copy. I assume with the .iso I can use it to install win 7 as a guest in V Box. Thanks. Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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> If you can reply to this question first before I give the details of how > to do it, then it might save some time and we can procede from there. > Unfortunately no, I can only have one HD in the PC at a time. So you have only one disk in the PC and another one which you remove and put in a tray when you want to run opensuse is that correct? One HD in the PC. That's it. So ... if openSuse HD is in the PC then that's what I use. If I want to use win 7, I have to shut down, remove the HD with openSuse on it, and insert my HD with win 7 on it and turn the PC back on. I actually have 4 separate HDs with win 7, openSuse, Fedora 16 and Ubuntu 11.10. So I can use whichever one I want, just have to shut down, remove the HD that's in there and put in one that I want. The HDs are in a mobile rack from Addonics www.addonics.com It's the snap-in series. The rack is mounted in the PC and you open it, slip in an HD, close it and lock it then boot the PC. I think the web page has a picture of the rack. Meanwhile, I'll look for the legal info on the PC or in the booklet so I can get the win 7 iso legally. Thanks again. Bob Hi, I took a look at the HD mount that you talk about in your post. It looks like it fits in one of the optical disk drive bays and allows you to remove the HD from the front of the computer. If I have this all wrong, you can correct me easily. You have it right. You just unlock it and flip the door open and

On 3/21/2012 2:30 PM, Mark Misulich wrote: the HD comes out like it shows. It does fir in one of the optical drive bays. You may have to modify the case at the front to get that rack to fit.

If it is the situation that this HD mount is a sort of add-on unit that fits in the optical drive bay, is it possible that there are internal mounting bays for hard drives that are only accessible by taking the side cover off of the computer?

Not sure about internal mounting bays. The one I use is accessible from the front of the PC tower. It just opens lie the picture shows on that web page. It has to be connected inside the case in an empty drive bay. Knowledgeable guys like you should have no problem connecting it. Just be sure you have 2 bays in case one is used by a HD. My PC is a Dell Inspiron which is about 1 1/2 years old. They may have modified the bays. Do you have a link to win 7 .iso legal copy. I assume with the .iso I can use it to install win 7 as a guest in V Box. Thanks. Bob

Hi, if you are up for it, unplug the computer and disconnect all the cables from the case. Move the case to a table top where you can look it over. Then you will find that one side of the case will come loose if you release a couple of latches. They look like plastic knobs on the back of the case, usually. When the side is off, then you can take a look inside the case to see if there are some mounting bays for hard drives. There are usually enough bays to fit two or more hard drives, and they are often below where the optical drive mounts are built in to the case. Don't touch any of the circuit boards or parts inside the case, just have a look for mounts. When you are done, put everything back together.

If you want to, have a look and post back. This Dell PC of mine has bays for mounting 2 hard drives it looks

On 3/21/2012 4:33 PM, Mark Misulich wrote: like. So at the top of the case is a 5 1/4 bay for the DVD drive, below that is an empty 5 1/4 inch bay where the Addonics rack is located. A bit below that is where the 2 bays are located for the HDs. Hope I explained it correctly. Ask again if I didn't. Bob

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>>> If you can reply to this question first before I give the details of how >>> to do it, then it might save some time and we can procede from there. >>> >> Unfortunately no, I can only have one HD in the PC at a time. > So you have only one disk in the PC and another one which you remove and > put in a tray when you want to run opensuse is that correct? One HD in the PC. That's it. So ... if openSuse HD is in the PC then that's what I use. If I want to use win 7, I have to shut down, remove the HD with openSuse on it, and insert my HD with win 7 on it and turn the PC back on. I actually have 4 separate HDs with win 7, openSuse, Fedora 16 and Ubuntu 11.10. So I can use whichever one I want, just have to shut down, remove the HD that's in there and put in one that I want. The HDs are in a mobile rack from Addonics www.addonics.com It's the snap-in series. The rack is mounted in the PC and you open it, slip in an HD, close it and lock it then boot the PC. I think the web page has a picture of the rack. Meanwhile, I'll look for the legal info on the PC or in the booklet so I can get the win 7 iso legally. Thanks again. Bob Hi, I took a look at the HD mount that you talk about in your post. It looks like it fits in one of the optical disk drive bays and allows you to remove the HD from the front of the computer. If I have this all wrong, you can correct me easily. You have it right. You just unlock it and flip the door open and

On 3/21/2012 2:30 PM, Mark Misulich wrote: the HD comes out like it shows. It does fir in one of the optical drive bays. You may have to modify the case at the front to get that rack to fit.

If it is the situation that this HD mount is a sort of add-on unit that fits in the optical drive bay, is it possible that there are internal mounting bays for hard drives that are only accessible by taking the side cover off of the computer?

Not sure about internal mounting bays. The one I use is accessible from the front of the PC tower. It just opens lie the picture shows on that web page. It has to be connected inside the case in an empty drive bay. Knowledgeable guys like you should have no problem connecting it. Just be sure you have 2 bays in case one is used by a HD. My PC is a Dell Inspiron which is about 1 1/2 years old. They may have modified the bays. Do you have a link to win 7 .iso legal copy. I assume with the .iso I can use it to install win 7 as a guest in V Box. Thanks. Bob

Hi, if you are up for it, unplug the computer and disconnect all the cables from the case. Move the case to a table top where you can look it over. Then you will find that one side of the case will come loose if you release a couple of latches. They look like plastic knobs on the back of the case, usually. When the side is off, then you can take a look inside the case to see if there are some mounting bays for hard drives. There are usually enough bays to fit two or more hard drives, and they are often below where the optical drive mounts are built in to the case. Don't touch any of the circuit boards or parts inside the case, just have a look for mounts. When you are done, put everything back together.

If you want to, have a look and post back. This Dell PC of mine has bays for mounting 2 hard drives it looks

On 3/21/2012 4:33 PM, Mark Misulich wrote: like. So at the top of the case is a 5 1/4 bay for the DVD drive, below that is an empty 5 1/4 inch bay where the Addonics rack is located. A bit below that is where the 2 bays are located for the HDs. Hope I explained it correctly. Ask again if I didn't. Bob

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Hi, it sounds correct, that you have mounting bays for two hard drives inside of the case.

The next thing is to find out what type of hard drive you have. There are generally two types of hard drives used in desktop pc's.

The old style of hard drive uses ide connections. It looks like this: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=ide+hard+drive+cable +connections&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=610&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=a4wudEBdKJQsMM:&imgrefurl=http://tech-help.info/components.html&docid=hB1_xWGjuHkjAM&imgurl=http://tech-help.info/sitebuilder/images/IDE_Hard-drive_with_IDE_and_Power_cable_crop-600x485.jpg&w=600&h=485&ei=axFrT-fjBIbagAfuldjABg&zoom=1

The common modern style of hard drive connection is sata. It looks like this:

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=sata+hard+drive+cable +connections&num=10&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1280&bih=640&tbm=isch&tbnid=CLpW5WJm-EnFcM:&imgrefurl=http://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay%3Flndocid%3DMIGR-55828&docid=0usPKYDLbRcxHM&imgurl=http://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/sata2.jpg&w=400&h=287&ei=ERJrT-raHfPq0QGI0rnrBg&zoom=1

If you can open the case again like before, take a look at the back of the hard drive to see what type of cable connections you have, to find out what sort of hard drive you have.

Then post back.

I have SATA drive. A fun thing with this is you can buy as many HDs you want and then put one in the 5 1/4 bay and you now have whatever OS is on the drive. Tired of it? Power off, take the HD out, put in another one with a different OS and you now have that one. So I have 4 HDs, one with win 7, then the others are openSuse12.1 ,Fedora 16, and Ubuntu 11.10. So I can use whatever one I want. Less and less with win 7. Only cost is the HDs. And no dual-booting problems. :-) Bob

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On 3/22/2012 9:52 AM, Mark Misulich wrote:

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This Dell PC of mine has bays for mounting 2 hard drives it looks like. So at the top of the case is a 5 1/4 bay for the DVD drive, below that is an empty 5 1/4 inch bay where the Addonics rack is located. A bit below that is where the 2 bays are located for the HDs. Hope I explained it correctly. Ask again if I didn't. Bob

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Hi, it sounds correct, that you have mounting bays for two hard drives inside of the case.

The next thing is to find out what type of hard drive you have. There are generally two types of hard drives used in desktop pc's.

The old style of hard drive uses ide connections. It looks like this: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=ide+hard+drive+cable +connections&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=610&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=a4wudEBdKJQsMM:&imgrefurl=http://tech-help.info/components.html&docid=hB1_xWGjuHkjAM&imgurl=http://tech-help.info/sitebuilder/images/IDE_Hard-drive_with_IDE_and_Power_cable_crop-600x485.jpg&w=600&h=485&ei=axFrT-fjBIbagAfuldjABg&zoom=1

The common modern style of hard drive connection is sata. It looks like this:

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=sata+hard+drive+cable +connections&num=10&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1280&bih=640&tbm=isch&tbnid=CLpW5WJm-EnFcM:&imgrefurl=http://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay%3Flndocid%3DMIGR-55828&docid=0usPKYDLbRcxHM&imgurl=http://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/sata2.jpg&w=400&h=287&ei=ERJrT-raHfPq0QGI0rnrBg&zoom=1

If you can open the case again like before, take a look at the back of the hard drive to see what type of cable connections you have, to find out what sort of hard drive you have.

Then post back. I have SATA drive. A fun thing with this is you can buy as many HDs you want and then put one in the 5 1/4 bay and you now have whatever OS is on the drive. Tired of it? Power off, take the HD out, put in another one with a different OS and you now have that one. So I have 4 HDs, one with win 7, then the others are openSuse12.1 ,Fedora 16, and Ubuntu 11.10. So I can use whatever one I want. Less and less with win

. 7. Only cost is the HDs. And no dual-booting problems. :-) Bob

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Hi, Well, you can probably tell where I am headed with the line of questions that I have been asking. I was thinking that you could install some hard drives internally, as well as maybe keep your front loading hard drive setup too. Then you can set up grub to allow you to boot one of several installed operating systems. I find it to be quite easy to do once you have learned how to set up grub.

In your post above it seems you are indicating that you prefer to have only one hard drive installed at a time via the front loading hard drive mount. At least, that is how I am interpreting what you wrote. No problems either way, linux is about personal choices. If you don't wish to pursue installing internal hard drives, I won't continue this line. So let me know your preference before I proceed farther.

Thanks

As of now, I'd like to stay with one hard drive at a time. What I need to know now is how to be sure VBox has me in a users group in openSuse, and how to use (mount) the win 7 iso as guest so I can go ahead and install Vbox sans mistakes. :-) Bob

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On 03/21/2012 11:39 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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FYI. This link shows the rack and HD that I have. http://www.addonics.com/products/aesnapmrsa.php The rack that is flipping open in the middle of the page is the one I have. Hope it's interesting to you. Could you send the link for a legal win 7 .iso again. Thanks. Then I can use it to get started with VM. Bob

there is no such thing as a legal win7.iso. You can use ANY win 7 DVD/iso for 30days (actually with some easy commands,there are 90days possible). That should be plenty fo time for testing. If you need it for longer, than buy a license for the version that you are using. And if you need just an iso file, you can legally download it, eg from digital river. Kiind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Hi Bob The iso is good enough to use in virtualbox. You do not need to burn it to CD/DVD. You can mount it and it will work like a CD/DVD. Jide Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Nigeria. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Benjamin Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:26:02 To: Open Suse Subject: Re: [opensuse] Re: virtualbox won't open On 3/21/2012 3:41 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

On 03/21/2012 11:39 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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FYI. This link shows the rack and HD that I have. http://www.addonics.com/products/aesnapmrsa.php The rack that is flipping open in the middle of the page is the one I have. Hope it's interesting to you. Could you send the link for a legal win 7 .iso again. Thanks. Then I can use it to get started with VM. Bob

there is no such thing as a legal win7.iso. You can use ANY win 7 DVD/iso for 30days (actually with some easy commands,there are 90days possible). That should be plenty fo time for testing. If you need it for longer, than buy a license for the version that you are using. And if you need just an iso file, you can legally download it, eg from digital river.

Kiind regards Eberhard

If an iso file is sufficient to install win 7 home, as a guest in VBox then that's all I need. Will it work? Do I have to burn the iso to a DVD or use it as is from Digital River, to install win7 Home as guest? Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org N�����r��y隊Z)z{.�ﮞ˛���m�)z{.��+�:�{Zr�az�'z��j)h���Ǿ� ޮ�^�ˬz��

On 03/22/2012 04:27 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

By mounting, do you mean to just insert he DVD with the iso in the drive and that's all, and start VBox? Guess I don't know what mounting means. Sorry. Bob

Well, normally you will have your win7home iso file on your hard-disk. Then you start your virtualbox. Then create a new virtual machine with windows, as said by other people. Then you configure the DVD drive of that machine to use your ISO file directly. It is very easy and it works as if you had a "real" win 7 DVD inside your DVD-drive, just much quicker, without any noise and without burning your ISO to DVD. Kind regards and just let us know how it works out for you Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/22/2012 06:39 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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Things didn't go well. Too many errors for a newbie to understand. It say to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup did that and now it says it wants dkms and extensions and I msut be a member of a user group .So one thing at a time and maybe I can get this working. I put windows as the OS and win 7 64 bit as the version in a box for guest, I think. Well, I am confused but will not quit. Please continue your great help from all of you. Thanks so much to all those who are helping and are so patient. As of now, VBox won't open. Just get one of several errors - usually the one about the driver in /etc/init ....... Thanks. Bob

I went through the same issues when I tried to install the newest virtual box on my suse 12.1. So when you run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup (as root or with sudo on (x/k/)ubuntu), what exactly do you get? most probably, I then would use your software install tool to install dkms and kernel sources and all of the dependencies that will automatically come up. Then you might run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup once again and let us know, what you get as a response. Do not worry, this will run okay for you, very soon. regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 22/03/12 19:17, Robert Benjamin wrote:

On 03/22/2012 01:58 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 06:39 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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Things didn't go well. Too many errors for a newbie to understand. It say to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup did that and now it says it wants dkms and extensions and I msut be a member of a user group .So one thing at a time and maybe I can get this working. I put windows as the OS and win 7 64 bit as the version in a box for guest, I think. Well, I am confused but will not quit. Please continue your great help from all of you. Thanks so much to all those who are helping and are so patient. As of now, VBox won't open. Just get one of several errors - usually the one about the driver in /etc/init ....... Thanks. Bob

I went through the same issues when I tried to install the newest virtual box on my suse 12.1. So when you run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup (as root or with sudo on (x/k/)ubuntu), what exactly do you get?

most probably, I then would use your software install tool to install dkms and kernel sources and all of the dependencies that will automatically come up.

Then you might run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup once again and let us know, what you get as a response.

Do not worry, this will run okay for you, very soon.

regards Eberhard

Here's what I get as root with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

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Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules done Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel modules done Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMS failed (Failed, trying without DKMS) Recompiling VirtualBox kernel modules failed (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what went wrong What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess things up too seriously. Tks again

Hi It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You need to install kernel-devel, make and gcc. HTH L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/22/2012 03:38 PM, lynn wrote:

On 22/03/12 19:17, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 01:58 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 06:39 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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Things didn't go well. Too many errors for a newbie to understand. It say to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup did that and now it says it wants dkms and extensions and I msut be a member of a user group .So one thing at a time and maybe I can get this working. I put windows as the OS and win 7 64 bit as the version in a box for guest, I think. Well, I am confused but will not quit. Please continue your great help from all of you. Thanks so much to all those who are helping and are so patient. As of now, VBox won't open. Just get one of several errors - usually the one about the driver in /etc/init ....... Thanks. Bob

I went through the same issues when I tried to install the newest virtual box on my suse 12.1. So when you run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup (as root or with sudo on (x/k/)ubuntu), what exactly do you get?

most probably, I then would use your software install tool to install dkms and kernel sources and all of the dependencies that will automatically come up.

Then you might run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup once again and let us know, what you get as a response.

Do not worry, this will run okay for you, very soon.

regards Eberhard

Here's what I get as root with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

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Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules done Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel modules done Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMS failed (Failed, trying without DKMS) Recompiling VirtualBox kernel modules failed (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what went wrong What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess things up too seriously. Tks again

Hi It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You need to install kernel-devel, make and gcc. HTH L x

At this point the icon for virtual box won't even open at all. And I'm not sure how to install what you have above . Guess I use add/remove software. Thanks. Read the how to and will try the things there tomorrow Thanks for the help again. Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/22/2012 09:11 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

On 03/22/2012 04:01 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 03:38 PM, lynn wrote:

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On 22/03/12 19:17, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 01:58 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 06:39 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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> Things didn't go well. Too many errors for a newbie to understand. It say to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup did that and now it says it wants dkms and extensions and I msut be a member of a user group .So one thing at a time and maybe I can get this working. I put windows as the OS and win 7 64 bit as the version in a box for guest, I think. Well, I am confused but will not quit. Please continue your great help from all of you. Thanks so much to all those who are helping and are so patient. As of now, VBox won't open. Just get one of several errors - usually the one about the driver in /etc/init ....... Thanks. Bob

I went through the same issues when I tried to install the newest virtual box on my suse 12.1. So when you run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup (as root or with sudo on (x/k/)ubuntu), what exactly do you get?

most probably, I then would use your software install tool to install dkms and kernel sources and all of the dependencies that will automatically come up.

Then you might run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup once again and let us know, what you get as a response.

Do not worry, this will run okay for you, very soon.

regards Eberhard

Here's what I get as root with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

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Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules done Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel modules done Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMS failed (Failed, trying without DKMS) Recompiling VirtualBox kernel modules failed (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what went wrong What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess things up too seriously. Tks again

Hi It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You need to install kernel-devel, make and gcc. HTH L x

At this point the icon for virtual box won't even open at all. And I'm not sure how to install what you have above . Guess I use add/remove software. Thanks. Read the how to and will try the things there tomorrow Thanks for the help again. Bob

Just went to the link you had in the how to and can't find an .iso there. Not sure which version to get so I'll wait til tomorrow and see what you suggest. This will work, right? :-) Bob

Hi Bob what distro are you running. Jide http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=22&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_22 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/23/2012 03:11 AM, Jide Ogunmekan wrote:

On 03/22/2012 09:11 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 04:01 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 03:38 PM, lynn wrote:

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On 22/03/12 19:17, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 01:58 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 06:39 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

> Things didn't go well. Too many errors for a newbie to > understand. It say to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup did that > and now it says it wants dkms and extensions and I msut be a > member of a user group .So one thing at a time and maybe I > can get this working. I put windows as the OS and win 7 64 > bit as the version in a box for guest, I think. Well, I am > confused but will not quit. Please continue your great help > from all of you. Thanks so much to all those who are helping > and are so patient. As of now, VBox won't open. Just get one > of several errors - usually the one about the driver in > /etc/init ....... Thanks. Bob I went through the same issues when I tried to install the newest virtual box on my suse 12.1. So when you run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup (as root or with sudo on (x/k/)ubuntu), what exactly do you get?

most probably, I then would use your software install tool to install dkms and kernel sources and all of the dependencies that will automatically come up.

Then you might run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup once again and let us know, what you get as a response.

Do not worry, this will run okay for you, very soon.

regards Eberhard

Here's what I get as root with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

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Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules done Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel modules done Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMS failed (Failed, trying without DKMS) Recompiling VirtualBox kernel modules failed (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what went wrong What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess things up too seriously. Tks again

Hi It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You need to install kernel-devel, make and gcc. HTH L x

At this point the icon for virtual box won't even open at all. And I'm not sure how to install what you have above . Guess I use add/remove software. Thanks. Read the how to and will try the things there tomorrow Thanks for the help again. Bob

Just went to the link you had in the how to and can't find an .iso there. Not sure which version to get so I'll wait til tomorrow and see what you suggest. This will work, right? :-) Bob

Hi Bob

what distro are you running.

openSuse 12.1 32 bit

Jide http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=22&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_22

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On 03/23/2012 03:27 AM, lynn wrote:

On 22/03/12 21:11, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 04:01 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 03:38 PM, lynn wrote:

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On 22/03/12 19:17, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 01:58 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 06:39 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

>> > Things didn't go well. Too many errors for a newbie to > understand. It say to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup did that > and now it says it wants dkms and extensions and I msut be a > member of a user group .So one thing at a time and maybe I > can get this working. I put windows as the OS and win 7 64 > bit as the version in a box for guest, I think. Well, I am > confused but will not quit. Please continue your great help > from all of you. Thanks so much to all those who are helping > and are so patient. As of now, VBox won't open. Just get one > of several errors - usually the one about the driver in > /etc/init ....... Thanks. Bob

I went through the same issues when I tried to install the newest virtual box on my suse 12.1. So when you run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup (as root or with sudo on (x/k/)ubuntu), what exactly do you get?

most probably, I then would use your software install tool to install dkms and kernel sources and all of the dependencies that will automatically come up.

Then you might run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup once again and let us know, what you get as a response.

Do not worry, this will run okay for you, very soon.

regards Eberhard

Here's what I get as root with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

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Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules done Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel modules done Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMS failed (Failed, trying without DKMS) Recompiling VirtualBox kernel modules failed (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what went wrong What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess things up too seriously. Tks again

Hi It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You need to install kernel-devel, make and gcc. HTH L x

At this point the icon for virtual box won't even open at all. And I'm not sure how to install what you have above . Guess I use add/remove software.

Yes. Yast Software Management then search for kernel-devel and check it, make and check it and gcc and check that too. Then Accept. You'll need to do this in the guest machine too when you get it running.

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Thanks. Read the how to and will try the things there tomorrow Thanks for the help again. Bob

Just went to the link you had in the how to and can't find an .iso there. Not sure which version to get so I'll wait til tomorrow and see what you suggest. This will work, right? :-) Bob

Yes, it will work. I made the howto because of this thread. There is a new version. 4.1.10. Use that instead of the 4.1.8 I mention. I'd forgotten how difficult it was on openSUSE.

You need 1. The VirtualBox rpm from here: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.10/VirtualBox-4.1-4.1.10_76795...

2. The extension pack from here: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.10/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extens...

3. The iso for the guest additions: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox Then click virtualbox/4.1.10 VBoxGuestAdditions_4.1.10.iso is 8th. on the list. rt-click that, save link as and save it in your /home/bob/.VirtualBox folder.

As you're finding out, Linux is not for mac users! HTH L x

OK. So I get the 3 items above and then click the first one. The present one that is on my desktop can stay and will be overwritten I assume. And the guest iso ... I have win 7 64 bit and this openSuse I'm using is a 32 bit version. So wich win 7 do I get for the .iso 32 bit to match openSuse or 64 bit which I have on a separate HD. BTW I'm on a PC, not a Mac, Thanks again I'll be optimistic and will wait tohear from you re: the 32 or 64 bit iso of win 7. Bob :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:23, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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bit and this openSuse I'm using is a 32 bit version. So wich win 7 do I get for the .iso 32 bit to match openSuse or 64 bit which I have on a separate HD.

You will need to have a win7 32bit iso in order to use win 7 inside virtualbox running on top of Suse 32bit.

Actually... no. You can install a 64 bit guest on a 32 bit host, provided you meet the 3 prerequisites. See the documentation here: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#intro-64bitguests That said, there is little to no benefit to installing a 64 bit Windows guest anyway (for almost all use cases), so Eberhard's comment is still good advice :-) C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/23/2012 08:19 AM, lynn wrote:

On 23/03/12 12:36, C wrote:

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On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:23, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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bit and this openSuse I'm using is a 32 bit version. So wich win 7 do I get for the .iso 32 bit to match openSuse or 64 bit which I have on a separate HD.

You will need to have a win7 32bit iso in order to use win 7 inside virtualbox running on top of Suse 32bit.

Actually... no. You can install a 64 bit guest on a 32 bit host, provided you meet the 3 prerequisites. See the documentation here: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#intro-64bitguests

That said, there is little to no benefit to installing a 64 bit Windows guest anyway (for almost all use cases), so Eberhard's comment is still good advice :-)

C.

+1 At this stage, we do not wish to introduce anything even slightly untested. L x

Well I like a challenge and don't usually give up. Especially with all you great people helping me. Do I actually burn a DVD with a 32 bit win 7 iso or follow your instructions about putting it in /home/benjie1/.virtualbox from the 8th one on the list you told me about . Ready to do either one now. And then I guess I can open VBox. In the box where it says operating system and below that the version. Is that the guest or host names that go there. My guess is it is guest. Things seem to be going well. Thanks Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/23/2012 09:08 AM, lynn wrote:

On 23/03/12 13:57, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/23/2012 08:19 AM, lynn wrote:

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On 23/03/12 12:36, C wrote:

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bit and this openSuse I'm using is a 32 bit version. So wich win 7 do I get for the .iso 32 bit to match openSuse or 64 bit which I have on a separate HD.

You will need to have a win7 32bit iso in order to use win 7 inside virtualbox running on top of Suse 32bit.

Actually... no. You can install a 64 bit guest on a 32 bit host, provided you meet the 3 prerequisites. See the documentation here: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#intro-64bitguests

That said, there is little to no benefit to installing a 64 bit Windows guest anyway (for almost all use cases), so Eberhard's comment is still good advice :-)

C.

+1 At this stage, we do not wish to introduce anything even slightly untested. L x

Well I like a challenge and don't usually give up. Especially with all you great people helping me. Do I actually burn a DVD with a 32 bit win 7 iso or follow your instructions about putting it in

No need to burn the iso. When you first start the machine after you have set it up and clicked on the green start arrow, you have an option to select the iso image you have downloaded. The default is a burned iso but just alongside that field is a folder icon. Choose that and point it at your downloaded iso.

OK. I am a member of a user group. I copied the iso file from the 8th place on the list and copied it to /home/benjie1/.virtualbox So I guess that's OK too now. Still not clear about the iso. Do I still need to make a DVD with a win 7 iso on it, or are we all set to press start? I'm hoping for the latter. :-) Time to do a little yard work, yukkk Back soon as hope to get this going. Thanks again Lynn. Bob

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/home/benjie1/.virtualbox from the 8th one on the list you told me about

NO no no! The guest additions iso needs copying to your .VirtualBox folder in your home directory. It has nothing to do with the windows 7 iso.

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. Ready to do either one now. And then I guess I can open VBox. In the box where it says operating system and below that the version. Is that the guest or host names that go there. My guess is it is guest. Things seem to be going well. Thanks Bob

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On 03/23/2012 10:23 AM, lynn wrote:

On 23/03/12 14:41, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/23/2012 09:08 AM, lynn wrote:

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On 23/03/12 13:57, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/23/2012 08:19 AM, lynn wrote:

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On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:23, Eberhard Roloff wrote: >> bit and this openSuse I'm using is a 32 bit version. So wich >> win 7 do I get for the .iso 32 bit to match openSuse or 64 >> bit which I have on a separate HD. > > You will need to have a win7 32bit iso in order to use win 7 inside > virtualbox running on top of Suse 32bit.

Actually... no. You can install a 64 bit guest on a 32 bit host, provided you meet the 3 prerequisites. See the documentation here: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#intro-64bitguests

That said, there is little to no benefit to installing a 64 bit Windows guest anyway (for almost all use cases), so Eberhard's comment is still good advice :-)

C.

+1 At this stage, we do not wish to introduce anything even slightly untested. L x

Well I like a challenge and don't usually give up. Especially with all you great people helping me. Do I actually burn a DVD with a 32 bit win 7 iso or follow your instructions about putting it in

No need to burn the iso. When you first start the machine after you have set it up and clicked on the green start arrow, you have an option to select the iso image you have downloaded. The default is a burned iso but just alongside that field is a folder icon. Choose that and point it at your downloaded iso.

OK. I am a member of a user group. I copied the iso file from the 8th place on the list and copied it to /home/benjie1/.virtualbox So I guess that's OK too now. Still not clear about the iso. Do I still need to make a DVD with a win 7 iso on it, or are we all set to press start?

No need to do anything with the win7 iso. Leave it where and as it is. You are ready to go. If you have already clicked on new and setup the disk, then click on the start arrow.

Good luck with the yard work;-)

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hoping for the latter. :-) Time to do a little yard work, yukkk Back soon as hope to get this going. Thanks again Lynn. Bob

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/home/benjie1/.virtualbox from the 8th one on the list you told me about

NO no no! The guest additions iso needs copying to your .VirtualBox folder in your home directory. It has nothing to do with the windows 7 iso.

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. Ready to do either one now. And then I guess I can open VBox. In the box where it says operating system and below that the version. Is that the guest or host names that go there. My guess is it is guest. Things seem to be going well. Thanks Bob

Things went well til I got this message: FATAL: Could not read from the boot medium! System halted. What do I do now? Bob

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Things went well til I got this message: FATAL: Could not read from the boot medium! System halted. What do I do now? Bob

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Very easy. Enter the setup of your virtual machine. There you go to the configuration of your dvd drive. And then you change your dvd drive to be the win7 32bit iso,

On 03/23/2012 05:15 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: that is on your harddisk. Then reboot. Congratulations, you are nearly there! Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 23/03/12 17:44, Robert Benjamin wrote:

On 03/23/2012 12:32 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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On 03/23/2012 05:15 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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Things went well til I got this message: FATAL: Could not read from the boot medium! System halted. What do I do now? Bob

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Very easy. Enter the setup of your virtual machine. There you go to the configuration of your dvd drive. And then you change your dvd drive to be the win7 32bit iso, that is on your harddisk.

Then reboot.

Congratulations, you are nearly there!

Eberhard

OK but where do I find the setup of the virtual machine? All I find is settings and items there but no setup. Thanks. Bob

You have not selected the win7 iso that you downloaded. When you start the machine by clicking the green start arrow, it will ask you to select an installation medium. You have not selected your win 7 iso as the installation medium. It does not find any installation medium because you have not told it what to use. Start it again but this time, click the folder icon alongside the media selection field and then select your win 7 iso. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 23/03/12 18:06, Robert Benjamin wrote:

On 03/23/2012 12:56 PM, lynn wrote:

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On 23/03/12 17:44, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/23/2012 12:32 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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On 03/23/2012 05:15 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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Things went well til I got this message: FATAL: Could not read from the boot medium! System halted. What do I do now? Bob

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Very easy. Enter the setup of your virtual machine. There you go to the configuration of your dvd drive. And then you change your dvd drive to be the win7 32bit iso, that is on your harddisk.

Then reboot.

Congratulations, you are nearly there!

Eberhard

OK but where do I find the setup of the virtual machine? All I find is settings and items there but no setup. Thanks. Bob

You have not selected the win7 iso that you downloaded. When you start the machine by clicking the green start arrow, it will ask you to select an installation medium. You have not selected your win 7 iso as the installation medium. It does not find any installation medium because you have not told it what to use.

Start it again but this time, click the folder icon alongside the media selection field and then select your win 7 iso.

L x

Started it again but that error comes up right away and stops the virtual machine. And I can't do anything to find where that folder is cause it shuts down right away. Hmmmm. Bob

Rather that trying to debug it, delete it and start again. You lose nothing by doing so:-) rt-click - remove then click the blue start top left of the vb window. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 3/29/2012 9:44 AM, Richard wrote:

On 03/23/2012 12:29 PM, lynn wrote:

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On 23/03/12 18:06, Robert Benjamin wrote:

Lynn, just wanted to compliment you on your patience in sticking with Bob to the end and thank you for the excellent information on getting Vbox to working. Using it I finally got my xp guest to use the USB. It never occured to me to be root while setting up all those things as I hadnt had to do that in the past.

Regards, Richard

And I think Lynn ( and others too) deserve a medal and praise in sticking with me to get VB working. Thanks to all. Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

OK but where do I find the setup of the virtual machine? All I find is

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settings and items there but no setup. Thanks. Bob

You have not selected the win7 iso that you downloaded. When you start the machine by clicking the green start arrow, it will ask you to select an installation medium. You have not selected your win 7 iso as the installation medium. It does not find any installation medium because you have not told it what to use.

Start it again but this time, click the folder icon alongside the media selection field and then select your win 7 iso.

L x Found this reference to the FATAL error. I need to use the folder icon so I can point to the win7 iso, but the fatal error comes up and stops the program before that page with the folder icon comes up. Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/23/2012 07:23 AM, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

Hi Bob,

On 03/23/2012 12:05 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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OK. So I get the 3 items above and then click the first one. The present one that is on my desktop can stay and will be overwritten I assume. Yes. But do not forget: First, virtualbox will need to start without errors, then the next steps will be easy... So you possibly might have to use the /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup procedure that hat been described before.

And the guest iso ... I have win 7 64

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bit and this openSuse I'm using is a 32 bit version. So wich win 7 do I get for the .iso 32 bit to match openSuse or 64 bit which I have on a separate HD.

You will need to have a win7 32bit iso in order to use win 7 inside virtualbox running on top of Suse 32bit.

Kind regards Eberhard

Things are going great so far. VBox started without errors, and it installed the extension pack successfully. Have not pressed start button yet. Two questions: First. In the box where you put the name of the VBox you want to use, below it are two boxes, one for operating system, the other for version. Is this for the guest or host OS? And second, How can I find out if I'm part of a user group. Saw that mentioned somewhere and not sure if it did that already or if I have to do it myself. Now I need to get an .iso of win7. Back later. Thanks. Bob

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On 23/03/12 12:05, Robert Benjamin wrote:

On 03/23/2012 03:27 AM, lynn wrote:

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On 22/03/12 21:11, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 04:01 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 03:38 PM, lynn wrote:

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On 22/03/12 19:17, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 01:58 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > On 03/22/2012 06:39 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: > >>> >> Things didn't go well. Too many errors for a newbie to >> understand. It say to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup did that >> and now it says it wants dkms and extensions and I msut be a >> member of a user group .So one thing at a time and maybe I >> can get this working. I put windows as the OS and win 7 64 >> bit as the version in a box for guest, I think. Well, I am >> confused but will not quit. Please continue your great help >> from all of you. Thanks so much to all those who are helping >> and are so patient. As of now, VBox won't open. Just get one >> of several errors - usually the one about the driver in >> /etc/init ....... Thanks. Bob > > I went through the same issues when I tried to install the newest > virtual box on my suse 12.1. > So when you run > /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup > (as root or with sudo on (x/k/)ubuntu), what exactly do you get? > > most probably, > I then would use your software install tool to install > dkms and > kernel sources > and all of the dependencies that will automatically come up. > > Then you might run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup > once again and let us know, what you get as a response. > > Do not worry, this will run okay for you, very soon. > > regards > Eberhard >

Here's what I get as root with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

> Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules done > Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel modules done > Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMS failed > (Failed, trying without DKMS) > Recompiling VirtualBox kernel modules failed > (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what went wrong What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess things up too seriously. Tks again

Hi It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You need to install kernel-devel, make and gcc. HTH L x

At this point the icon for virtual box won't even open at all. And I'm not sure how to install what you have above . Guess I use add/remove software.

Yes. Yast Software Management then search for kernel-devel and check it, make and check it and gcc and check that too. Then Accept. You'll need to do this in the guest machine too when you get it running.

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Thanks. Read the how to and will try the things there tomorrow Thanks for the help again. Bob

Just went to the link you had in the how to and can't find an .iso there. Not sure which version to get so I'll wait til tomorrow and see what you suggest. This will work, right? :-) Bob

Yes, it will work. I made the howto because of this thread. There is a new version. 4.1.10. Use that instead of the 4.1.8 I mention. I'd forgotten how difficult it was on openSUSE.

You need 1. The VirtualBox rpm from here: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.10/VirtualBox-4.1-4.1.10_76795...

2. The extension pack from here: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.10/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extens...

3. The iso for the guest additions: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox Then click virtualbox/4.1.10 VBoxGuestAdditions_4.1.10.iso is 8th. on the list. rt-click that, save link as and save it in your /home/bob/.VirtualBox folder.

As you're finding out, Linux is not for mac users! HTH L x

OK. So I get the 3 items above and then click the first one. The present one that is on my desktop can stay and will be overwritten I assume.

Yes. It will replace it. And

the guest iso ... I have win 7 64 bit and this openSuse I'm using is a 32 bit version. So wich win 7 do I get for the .iso 32 bit to match openSuse or 64 bit which I have on a separate HD.

I know for certain that 32 opensuse with 32 win 7 works. I have not tested any 32-64 combinations but it should work. But we want to be sure at this stage no? Unless someone can confirm _by actually having done it_ with 32/64 then download a 32bit win7 iso. BTW I'm on a PC, not a

Mac,

Just a little joke. sorry. To your credit you have not given up yet. Others would have done so long ago. Thanks again I'll be optimistic and will wait tohear from you re:

the 32 or 64 bit iso of win 7. Bob :-)

I think that now you have all you need. I've updated the howto with screenshots of what it looks like. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

El 24/03/12 02:25, Robert Benjamin escribió:

On 03/23/2012 03:27 AM, lynn wrote:

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On 22/03/12 21:11, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 04:01 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 03:38 PM, lynn wrote:

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On 22/03/12 19:17, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 01:58 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > On 03/22/2012 06:39 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: > >>> >> Things didn't go well. Too many errors for a newbie to >> understand. It say to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup did that >> and now it says it wants dkms and extensions and I msut be a >> member of a user group .So one thing at a time and maybe I >> can get this working. I put windows as the OS and win 7 64 >> bit as the version in a box for guest, I think. Well, I am >> confused but will not quit. Please continue your great help >> from all of you. Thanks so much to all those who are helping >> and are so patient. As of now, VBox won't open. Just get one >> of several errors - usually the one about the driver in >> /etc/init ....... Thanks. Bob > > I went through the same issues when I tried to install the > newest virtual box on my suse 12.1. > So when you run > /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup > (as root or with sudo on (x/k/)ubuntu), what exactly do you get? > > most probably, > I then would use your software install tool to install > dkms and > kernel sources > and all of the dependencies that will automatically come up. > > Then you might run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup > once again and let us know, what you get as a response. > > Do not worry, this will run okay for you, very soon. > > regards > Eberhard >

Here's what I get as root with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

> Stopping VirtualBox kernel > modules done > Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel > modules done > Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using > DKMS failed > (Failed, trying without DKMS) > Recompiling VirtualBox kernel > modules failed > (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what went wrong What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess things up too seriously. Tks again

Hi It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You need to install kernel-devel, make and gcc. HTH L x

At this point the icon for virtual box won't even open at all. And I'm not sure how to install what you have above . Guess I use add/remove software.

Yes. Yast Software Management then search for kernel-devel and check it, make and check it and gcc and check that too. Then Accept. You'll need to do this in the guest machine too when you get it running.

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Thanks. Read the how to and will try the things there tomorrow Thanks for the help again. Bob

Just went to the link you had in the how to and can't find an .iso there. Not sure which version to get so I'll wait til tomorrow and see what you suggest. This will work, right? :-) Bob

Yes, it will work. I made the howto because of this thread. There is a new version. 4.1.10. Use that instead of the 4.1.8 I mention. I'd forgotten how difficult it was on openSUSE.

You need 1. The VirtualBox rpm from here: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.10/VirtualBox-4.1-4.1.10_76795...

2. The extension pack from here: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.10/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extens...

3. The iso for the guest additions: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox Then click virtualbox/4.1.10 VBoxGuestAdditions_4.1.10.iso is 8th. on the list. rt-click that, save link as and save it in your /home/bob/.VirtualBox folder.

As you're finding out, Linux is not for mac users! HTH L x for the buttons

Hi again. Power surges yesterday. Some things don't work like no min,max are missing at top, right in all windows. Some old errors are back in Virtual Box. I removed it from add/remove software and will re-install as per the instructions above. OK? BTW, any idea how to get min,max buttons back? Bob

Yes. It will install fine. Just remember NOT to use the openSUSE versions, but the versions you downloaded. As for the buttons, Carlos just suggested changing your theme. Had a go at that yet? L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

El 23/03/12 21:58, Robert Benjamin escribió:

On 03/24/2012 12:47 PM, lynn wrote:

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El 24/03/12 02:25, Robert Benjamin escribió:

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On 03/23/2012 03:27 AM, lynn wrote:

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On 22/03/12 21:11, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 04:01 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/22/2012 03:38 PM, lynn wrote: > On 22/03/12 19:17, Robert Benjamin wrote: >> >> >> On 03/22/2012 01:58 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: >>> On 03/22/2012 06:39 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>> Things didn't go well. Too many errors for a newbie to >>>> understand. It say to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup did that >>>> and now it says it wants dkms and extensions and I msut be a >>>> member of a user group .So one thing at a time and maybe I >>>> can get this working. I put windows as the OS and win 7 64 >>>> bit as the version in a box for guest, I think. Well, I am >>>> confused but will not quit. Please continue your great help >>>> from all of you. Thanks so much to all those who are helping >>>> and are so patient. As of now, VBox won't open. Just get one >>>> of several errors - usually the one about the driver in >>>> /etc/init ....... Thanks. Bob >>> >>> I went through the same issues when I tried to install the >>> newest virtual box on my suse 12.1. >>> So when you run >>> /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup >>> (as root or with sudo on (x/k/)ubuntu), what exactly do you get? >>> >>> most probably, >>> I then would use your software install tool to install >>> dkms and >>> kernel sources >>> and all of the dependencies that will automatically come up. >>> >>> Then you might run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup >>> once again and let us know, what you get as a response. >>> >>> Do not worry, this will run okay for you, very soon. >>> >>> regards >>> Eberhard >>> >> >> Here's what I get as root with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup >> >> >>> Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules done >>> Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel modules done >>> Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMS failed >>> (Failed, trying without DKMS) >>> Recompiling VirtualBox kernel modules failed >>> (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what went wrong >> What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess things up too >> seriously. Tks again >> > Hi > It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You need to install > kernel-devel, make and gcc. > HTH > L x >

At this point the icon for virtual box won't even open at all. And I'm not sure how to install what you have above . Guess I use add/remove software.

Yes. Yast Software Management then search for kernel-devel and check it, make and check it and gcc and check that too. Then Accept. You'll need to do this in the guest machine too when you get it running.

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Thanks. Read the how to and will try the things there tomorrow Thanks for the help again. Bob

Just went to the link you had in the how to and can't find an .iso there. Not sure which version to get so I'll wait til tomorrow and see what you suggest. This will work, right? :-) Bob

Yes, it will work. I made the howto because of this thread. There is a new version. 4.1.10. Use that instead of the 4.1.8 I mention. I'd forgotten how difficult it was on openSUSE.

You need 1. The VirtualBox rpm from here: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.10/VirtualBox-4.1-4.1.10_76795...

2. The extension pack from here: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.10/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extens...

3. The iso for the guest additions: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox Then click virtualbox/4.1.10 VBoxGuestAdditions_4.1.10.iso is 8th. on the list. rt-click that, save link as and save it in your /home/bob/.VirtualBox folder.

As you're finding out, Linux is not for mac users! HTH L x for the buttons

Hi again. Power surges yesterday. Some things don't work like no min,max are missing at top, right in all windows. Some old errors are back in Virtual Box. I removed it from add/remove software and will re-install as per the instructions above. OK? BTW, any idea how to get min,max buttons back? Bob

Yes. It will install fine. Just remember NOT to use the openSUSE versions, but the versions you downloaded.

As for the buttons, Carlos just suggested changing your theme. Had a go at that yet? L x

Not sure where to find the theme. Looked around but haven't found it. Installed VBox with the link you gave me (above) and downloaded the extension pack and the guest iso but haven't installed those yet. Lost some emails and printer too, so may repeat questions again if the emails are gone. Like to get the theme fixed so those buttons come back.

Computer > Control Center > Theme or System > Control Center > Theme

Readint the help menus still leaves me confused re: the folder icon for the guest iso

The folder icon is to the right of the field which is displayed at the first input screen after you have started the guest for the first time. It will stay there forever until you OK it _OR_ choose the folder icon just beside it and to its right. After you click the folder icon, a file manager opens and you can browse to Downloads and click your win 7 iso. and the setup for that. Hope it will run today. :-) Tks Bob

Yes. It will run today:-) L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Yes, it will work. I made the howto because of this thread. There is a new version. 4.1.10. Use that instead of the 4.1.8 I mention. I'd forgotten how difficult it was on openSUSE.

You need 1. The VirtualBox rpm from here: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.10/VirtualBox-4.1-4.1.10_76795...

2. The extension pack from here: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.10/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extens...

3. The iso for the guest additions: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox Then click virtualbox/4.1.10 VBoxGuestAdditions_4.1.10.iso is 8th. on the list. rt-click that, save link as and save it in your /home/bob/.VirtualBox folder.

As you're finding out, Linux is not for mac users! HTH L x for the buttons Yes. It will install fine. Just remember NOT to use the openSUSE versions, but the versions you downloaded.

As for the buttons, Carlos just suggested changing your theme. Had a go at that yet? L x

Not sure where to find the theme. Looked around but haven't found it. Installed VBox with the link you gave me (above) and downloaded the extension pack and the guest iso but haven't installed those yet. Lost some emails and printer too, so may repeat questions again if the emails are gone. Like to get the theme fixed so those buttons come back.

Computer > Control Center > Theme or System > Control Center > Theme

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Readint the help menus still leaves me confused re: the folder icon for the guest iso

The folder icon is to the right of the field which is displayed at the first input screen after you have started the guest for the first time. It will stay there forever until you OK it _OR_ choose the folder icon just beside it and to its right. After you click the folder icon, a file manager opens and you can browse to Downloads and click your win 7 iso.

and the setup for that. Hope it will run today. :-) Tks Bob

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Yes. It will run today:-) L x

Glitch. It won't let me install the virtual HD. Every time I try it with different locations it say it already exists. Can't get beyond that point. Hit cancel and it is back to new. Whassup with this? Bob

Cancel the glitch, I just hit new, and gave it a new name and so it was happy. Created a new virtual drive of 20 gigs with no problems. The extension pack installed fine so I'll hit start tomorrow and hope for the best. Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/25/2012 10:07 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

Here's what I get as root with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

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>>> Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel >>> modules done >>> Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using >>> DKMS failed >>> (Failed, trying without DKMS) >>> Recompiling VirtualBox kernel >>> modules failed >>> (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what went wrong >> Stopping VirtualBox kernel >> modules done >> What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess things up too >> seriously. Tks again >> > Hi > It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You need to > install kernel-devel, make and gcc. > HTH > L x

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> Hi It is the 25th and I have trouble with > getting anywhere with the start arrow. Here's what comes up: > Error box Failed to open a session for the virtual machine bbox. > The virtual machine bbox has terminated unexpectedly during > startup with exit code 1. OK Press OK and it is back to the start arrow again. Ticked the boxes in Yast as was suggested before for kernel-devel and others. They were already checked. and dkms is not in add/remove software. Using /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup gets the same thing as at the top of this email. So close but ... :-) Bob

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Have checked again and kernel-devel and gcc are installed but I'm still stuck at the same place as above. Any way to get out of this rut? Bob

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On 03/25/2012 02:08 PM, lynn wrote:

On 03/25/2012 10:58 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/25/2012 10:07 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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>>>>> Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel >>>>> modules done >>>>> Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using >>>>> DKMS failed >>>>> (Failed, trying without DKMS) >>>>> Recompiling VirtualBox kernel >>>>> modules failed >>>>> (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what went >>>>> wrong >>>> Stopping VirtualBox kernel >>>> modules done >>>> What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess things up too >>>> seriously. Tks again >>>> >>> Hi >>> It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You need to >>> install kernel-devel, make and gcc. >>> HTH >>> L x

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>>> Hi It is the 25th and I have trouble with >>> getting anywhere with the start arrow. Here's what comes up: >>> Error box Failed to open a session for the virtual machine >>> bbox. The virtual machine bbox has terminated unexpectedly >>> during startup with exit code 1. OK Press OK and it is back to the start arrow again. Ticked the boxes in Yast as was suggested before for kernel-devel and others. They were already checked. and dkms is not in add/remove software. Using /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup gets the same thing as at the top of this email. So close but ... :-) Bob

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Have checked again and kernel-devel and gcc are installed but I'm still stuck at the same place as above. Any way to get out of this rut? Bob

What is the output of: getent group vboxusers

benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> getent group vboxusers vboxusers:!:1000: benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/25/2012 02:31 PM, lynn wrote:

El 26/03/12 00:12, Robert Benjamin escribió:

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On 03/25/2012 02:08 PM, lynn wrote:

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On 03/25/2012 10:58 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/25/2012 10:07 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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Here's what I get as root with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

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>>>>>>> Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel >>>>>>> modules done >>>>>>> Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using >>>>>>> DKMS failed >>>>>>> (Failed, trying without DKMS) >>>>>>> Recompiling VirtualBox kernel >>>>>>> modules failed >>>>>>> (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what went >>>>>>> wrong >>>>>> Stopping VirtualBox kernel >>>>>> modules done >>>>>> What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess things up >>>>>> too seriously. Tks again >>>>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You need to >>>>> install kernel-devel, make and gcc. >>>>> HTH >>>>> L x

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>>>>> Hi It is the 25th and I have trouble >>>>> with getting anywhere with the start arrow. Here's what >>>>> comes up: Error box Failed to open a session for the >>>>> virtual machine bbox. The virtual machine bbox has >>>>> terminated unexpectedly during startup with exit code 1. OK Press OK and it is back to the start arrow again. Ticked the boxes in Yast as was suggested before for kernel-devel and others. They were already checked. and dkms is not in add/remove software. Using /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup gets the same thing as at the top of this email. So close but ... :-) Bob

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>> Have checked again and kernel-devel and gcc are installed but >> I'm still stuck at the same place as above. Any way to get out >> of this rut? Bob >

What is the output of: getent group vboxusers

benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> getent group vboxusers vboxusers:!:1000: benjie1@linux-0fzk:~>

OK This means that you are not a member of the vboxusers group. To run vb, you have to be.

Try this as root: useradd -G vboxusers bob (or whatever your username is) L x

benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> sudo su root's password: linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # useradd -G vboxusers benjie1 useradd: Account `benjie1' already exists. linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/25/2012 02:49 PM, lynn wrote:

El 26/03/12 00:36, Robert Benjamin escribió:

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On 03/25/2012 02:31 PM, lynn wrote:

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El 26/03/12 00:12, Robert Benjamin escribió:

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On 03/25/2012 02:08 PM, lynn wrote:

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On 03/25/2012 10:58 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/25/2012 10:07 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: > Here's what I get as root with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup >>>>>>>>> Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel >>>>>>>>> modules done >>>>>>>>> Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using >>>>>>>>> DKMS failed >>>>>>>>> (Failed, trying without DKMS) >>>>>>>>> Recompiling VirtualBox kernel >>>>>>>>> modules failed >>>>>>>>> (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what >>>>>>>>> went wrong >>>>>>>> Stopping VirtualBox kernel >>>>>>>> modules done >>>>>>>> What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess things up >>>>>>>> too seriously. Tks again >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>> It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You need to >>>>>>> install kernel-devel, make and gcc. >>>>>>> HTH >>>>>>> L x

>>>>>>> Hi It is the 25th and I have trouble >>>>>>> with getting anywhere with the start arrow. Here's what >>>>>>> comes up: Error box Failed to open a session for the >>>>>>> virtual machine bbox. The virtual machine bbox has >>>>>>> terminated unexpectedly during startup with exit code 1. OK > Press OK and it is back to the start arrow again. Ticked the > boxes in Yast as was suggested before for kernel-devel and > others. They were already checked. and dkms is not in add/remove > software. Using /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup gets the same thing as > at the top of this email. So close but ... :-) Bob > > >>>> Have checked again and kernel-devel and gcc are installed but >>>> I'm still stuck at the same place as above. Any way to get >>>> out of this rut? Bob >>> >> >

What is the output of: getent group vboxusers

benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> getent group vboxusers vboxusers:!:1000: benjie1@linux-0fzk:~>

OK This means that you are not a member of the vboxusers group. To run vb, you have to be.

Try this as root: useradd -G vboxusers bob (or whatever your username is) L x

benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> sudo su root's password: linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # useradd -G vboxusers benjie1 useradd: Account `benjie1' already exists. linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 #

Sorry. Still Sunday here. . . usermod -G vboxusers benjie1 L x

benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> sudo su root's password: linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # usermod -G vboxusers benjie1 linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # Guess I drew a blank, literally!!! It can wait til tomorrow if you want. Thanks. Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

El 26/03/12 02:18, Robert Benjamin escribió:

On 03/25/2012 06:57 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/25/2012 02:49 PM, lynn wrote:

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El 26/03/12 00:36, Robert Benjamin escribió:

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On 03/25/2012 02:31 PM, lynn wrote:

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El 26/03/12 00:12, Robert Benjamin escribió:

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On 03/25/2012 02:08 PM, lynn wrote: > On 03/25/2012 10:58 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >> On 03/25/2012 10:07 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>> Here's what I get as root with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup >>>>>>>>>>> Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel >>>>>>>>>>> modules done >>>>>>>>>>> Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using >>>>>>>>>>> DKMS failed >>>>>>>>>>> (Failed, trying without DKMS) >>>>>>>>>>> Recompiling VirtualBox kernel >>>>>>>>>>> modules failed >>>>>>>>>>> (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what >>>>>>>>>>> went wrong >>>>>>>>>> Stopping VirtualBox kernel >>>>>>>>>> modules done >>>>>>>>>> What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess things >>>>>>>>>> up too seriously. Tks again >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>> It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You need >>>>>>>>> to install kernel-devel, make and gcc. >>>>>>>>> HTH >>>>>>>>> L x >> >>>>>>>>> Hi It is the 25th and I have trouble >>>>>>>>> with getting anywhere with the start arrow. Here's what >>>>>>>>> comes up: Error box Failed to open a session for the >>>>>>>>> virtual machine bbox. The virtual machine bbox has >>>>>>>>> terminated unexpectedly during startup with exit code >>>>>>>>> 1. OK >>> Press OK and it is back to the start arrow again. Ticked the >>> boxes in Yast as was suggested before for kernel-devel and >>> others. They were already checked. and dkms is not in >>> add/remove software. Using /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup gets the >>> same thing as at the top of this email. So close but ... >>> :-) Bob >>> >>> >>>>>> Have checked again and kernel-devel and gcc are installed >>>>>> but I'm still stuck at the same place as above. Any way to >>>>>> get out of this rut? Bob >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > What is the output of: > getent group vboxusers

benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> getent group vboxusers vboxusers:!:1000: benjie1@linux-0fzk:~>

OK This means that you are not a member of the vboxusers group. To run vb, you have to be.

Try this as root: useradd -G vboxusers bob (or whatever your username is) L x

benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> sudo su root's password: linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # useradd -G vboxusers benjie1 useradd: Account `benjie1' already exists. linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 #

Sorry. Still Sunday here. . . usermod -G vboxusers benjie1 L x

benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> sudo su root's password: linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # usermod -G vboxusers benjie1 linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 #

Guess I drew a blank, literally!!! It can wait til tomorrow if you want. Thanks. Bob

Checked help in VB and followed some hints and got this:

benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> sudo su root's password: linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers username usermod: invalid option -- 'a' Try `usermod --help' or `usermod --usage' for more information. linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # sudo usermod -G vboxusers benjie1 linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # getent group vboxusers vboxusers:!:1000:benjie1 linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 #

So this has my username now. Is this significant? See you tomorrow. Bob

You did it correctly the first time: usermod -G vboxusers benjie1 gave no errors and added you to the vboxusers group. Reboot. Now you should be able to start the guest machine. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/26/2012 11:10 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

On 03/25/2012 04:30 PM, lynn wrote:

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El 26/03/12 02:18, Robert Benjamin escribió:

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On 03/25/2012 06:57 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/25/2012 02:49 PM, lynn wrote:

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El 26/03/12 00:36, Robert Benjamin escribió:

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On 03/25/2012 02:31 PM, lynn wrote: > El 26/03/12 00:12, Robert Benjamin escribió: >> On 03/25/2012 02:08 PM, lynn wrote: >>> On 03/25/2012 10:58 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>>> On 03/25/2012 10:07 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>>>> Here's what I get as root with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup >>>>>>>>>>>>> Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel >>>>>>>>>>>>> modules done >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules >>>>>>>>>>>>> using DKMS failed >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Failed, trying without DKMS) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Recompiling VirtualBox kernel >>>>>>>>>>>>> modules failed >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out >>>>>>>>>>>>> what went wrong >>>>>>>>>>>> Stopping VirtualBox kernel >>>>>>>>>>>> modules done >>>>>>>>>>>> What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess >>>>>>>>>>>> things up too seriously. Tks again >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>> It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You need >>>>>>>>>>> to install kernel-devel, make and gcc. >>>>>>>>>>> HTH >>>>>>>>>>> L x >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi It is the 25th and I have >>>>>>>>>>> trouble with getting anywhere with the start arrow. >>>>>>>>>>> Here's what comes up: Error box Failed to open a >>>>>>>>>>> session for the virtual machine bbox. The virtual >>>>>>>>>>> machine bbox has terminated unexpectedly during >>>>>>>>>>> startup with exit code 1. OK >>>>> Press OK and it is back to the start arrow again. Ticked the >>>>> boxes in Yast as was suggested before for kernel-devel and >>>>> others. They were already checked. and dkms is not in >>>>> add/remove software. Using /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup gets >>>>> the same thing as at the top of this email. So close but >>>>> ... :-) Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Have checked again and kernel-devel and gcc are installed >>>>>>>> but I'm still stuck at the same place as above. Any way >>>>>>>> to get out of this rut? Bob >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> What is the output of: >>> getent group vboxusers >> >> benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> getent group vboxusers >> vboxusers:!:1000: >> benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> >> >> >> >> > OK > This means that you are not a member of the vboxusers group. To > run vb, you have to be. > > Try this as root: > useradd -G vboxusers bob > (or whatever your username is) > L x > benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> sudo su root's password: linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # useradd -G vboxusers benjie1 useradd: Account `benjie1' already exists. linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 #

Sorry. Still Sunday here. . . usermod -G vboxusers benjie1 L x

benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> sudo su root's password: linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # usermod -G vboxusers benjie1 linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 #

Guess I drew a blank, literally!!! It can wait til tomorrow if you want. Thanks. Bob

Checked help in VB and followed some hints and got this:

benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> sudo su root's password: linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers username usermod: invalid option -- 'a' Try `usermod --help' or `usermod --usage' for more information. linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # sudo usermod -G vboxusers benjie1 linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # getent group vboxusers vboxusers:!:1000:benjie1 linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 #

So this has my username now. Is this significant? See you tomorrow. Bob

You did it correctly the first time: usermod -G vboxusers benjie1 gave no errors and added you to the vboxusers group.

Reboot. Now you should be able to start the guest machine. L x

No can't start guest machine. After reboot I get the same error as at the top of this email. Tried again with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup but still gives the same as above. Seems it's stuck here for some reason. Thanks again Bob

Reading the help menu in VB I came across this: for virtual machines created with VirtualBox 4.0 or later, navigate to the "VirtualBox VMs" folder in your system user's home directory, find the subdirectory of the machine you want to start and double-click on the machine settings file (with a .vbox file extension). Followed the instructions and got that same message again - kernel won't start or is not there. In terminal window /etc/init.d/vboxdrv/ setup Gives the same results as above. Can there be a problem with the Linux kernel or vbox kernel? Also, dkms is not available in Yast Any ideas how to get this to start. I'm willing to re-install anything if necessary. I know it will run eventually. Thanks. Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Monday, March 26, 2012 07:23:14 AM Regis Matejcik wrote:

On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 16:23 -0400, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/26/2012 11:10 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/25/2012 04:30 PM, lynn wrote:

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El 26/03/12 02:18, Robert Benjamin escribió:

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On 03/25/2012 02:49 PM, lynn wrote: > El 26/03/12 00:36, Robert Benjamin escribió: >> On 03/25/2012 02:31 PM, lynn wrote: >>> El 26/03/12 00:12, Robert Benjamin escribió: >>>> On 03/25/2012 02:08 PM, lynn wrote: >>>>> On 03/25/2012 10:58 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>>>>> On 03/25/2012 10:07 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>>>>>> Here's what I get as root with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv >>>>>>> setup >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modules done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using DKMS failed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Failed, trying without DKMS) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recompiling VirtualBox kernel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modules failed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what went wrong >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stopping VirtualBox kernel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> modules done >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What does all this mean. Hope I didn't mess >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> things up too seriously. Tks again >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>> It means it can't compile the kernel modules. You >>>>>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>>> to install kernel-devel, make and gcc. >>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH >>>>>>>>>>>>> L x >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi It is the 25th and I have >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble with getting anywhere with the start >>>>>>>>>>>>> arrow. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's what comes up: Error box Failed to open a >>>>>>>>>>>>> session for the virtual machine bbox. The virtual >>>>>>>>>>>>> machine bbox has terminated unexpectedly during >>>>>>>>>>>>> startup with exit code 1. OK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Press OK and it is back to the start arrow again. Ticked >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> boxes in Yast as was suggested before for kernel-devel >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> others. They were already checked. and dkms is not in >>>>>>> add/remove software. Using /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup >>>>>>> gets >>>>>>> the same thing as at the top of this email. So close but >>>>>>> ... :-) Bob >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Have checked again and kernel-devel and gcc are >>>>>>>>>> installed >>>>>>>>>> but I'm still stuck at the same place as above. Any >>>>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>>>> to get out of this rut? Bob >>>>> >>>>> What is the output of: >>>>> getent group vboxusers >>>>> >>>> benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> getent group vboxusers >>>> >>>> vboxusers:!:1000: >>>> benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> >>> >>> OK >>> This means that you are not a member of the vboxusers group. >>> To >>> run vb, you have to be. >>> >>> Try this as root: >>> useradd -G vboxusers bob >>> (or whatever your username is) >>> L x >>> >> benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> sudo su >> >> root's password: >> linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # useradd -G vboxusers benjie1 >> useradd: Account `benjie1' already exists. >> linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # > > Sorry. Still Sunday here. . . > usermod -G vboxusers benjie1 > L x > benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> sudo su

root's password: linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # usermod -G vboxusers benjie1 linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 #

Guess I drew a blank, literally!!! It can wait til tomorrow if

you want. Thanks. Bob

Checked help in VB and followed some hints and got this:

benjie1@linux-0fzk:~> sudo su

root's password: linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers username usermod: invalid option -- 'a' Try `usermod --help' or `usermod --usage' for more information. linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # sudo usermod -G vboxusers benjie1 linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 # getent group vboxusers vboxusers:!:1000:benjie1 linux-0fzk:/home/benjie1 #

So this has my username now. Is this significant? See you tomorrow. Bob

You did it correctly the first time: usermod -G vboxusers benjie1 gave no errors and added you to the vboxusers group.

Reboot. Now you should be able to start the guest machine. L x

No can't start guest machine. After reboot I get the same error as

at the top of this email. Tried again with /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup but still gives the same as above. Seems it's stuck here for some reason. Thanks again Bob

Reading the help menu in VB I came across this: for virtual machines created with VirtualBox 4.0 or later, navigate to the "VirtualBox VMs" folder in your system user's home directory, find the subdirectory of the machine you want to start and double-click on the machine settings file (with a .vbox file extension).

Followed the instructions and got that same message again - kernel

won't start or is not there. In terminal window /etc/init.d/vboxdrv/ setup Gives the same results as above. Can there be a problem with the Linux kernel or vbox kernel? Also, dkms is not available in Yast Any ideas how to get this to start. I'm willing to re-install anything if necessary. I know it will run eventually. Thanks. Bob

Bob, I'm far from a VirtualBox expert, in fact am currently wrestling with a few nagging issues myself, but...

I believe the documentation states that VirtualBox won't start without dkms. If you can't find it in YAST, you may not have the repositories configured. You may want to go to the "Software Repositories" section and add the community repositories.

good luck,

Regis I just installed Virtualbox 4.1.10 under openSUSE 12.1. I DO NOT have dkms installed. In fact at one time openSUSE recommended not to install it. I'm not sure thats still valid but Vbox works without it.

I'm running Win XP as the guest. I did do a upgrade, not bottom up install. I had 4.1.8 running. what I did was : 1. Download (to Download directory or where ever you want it)the opensuse 12.1 version from: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads (select Virtualbox 4.1.10 for Linux hosts) 2. Then Select opensuse 11.4 / 12.1 and pick i386 or AMD64 (this is 64 bit version for all Intel or AMD). Also verify md5 and SHA256 checksums on downloaded file 3. Go back to: www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads and download and click on all platforms under Extension pak.(VirtualBox 4.1.10 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack) http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.10/VirtualBoxSDK-4.1.10-76795.... I then installed Virtualbox with YaST after adding the local folder as a repo. Once install completed and went back to the folder I put VirtualBox ext. pack in. I clicked on it and it leads you thru the install. Once its done, I started VirtualBox, checked all setting and booted (Green Arrow) XP which was retained from the 4.8 version. First try XP got to Welcome screen and hung. Remembered in past I had to do a power down and restarted it. This time XP worked fine. I checked sound, cd-rom, shared folder, Word and logged on to Windows update. Selected to files to update and then said Ok, windows crashed (Have not had time to try again, but main parts work. You may need to reinstall XP if you never got it to start. Hope this will at least let you know it will work.

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On 03/26/12 17:39, Robert Benjamin pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

On 03/26/2012 08:23 AM, Regis Matejcik wrote:

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On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 16:23 -0400, Robert Benjamin wrote:

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On 03/26/2012 11:10 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: necessary. I know it will run eventually. Thanks. Bob Bob, I'm far from a VirtualBox expert, in fact am currently wrestling with a few nagging issues myself, but...

I believe the documentation states that VirtualBox won't start without dkms. If you can't find it in YAST, you may not have the repositories configured. You may want to go to the "Software Repositories" section and add the community repositories.

good luck,

Regis Regis, could you be more specific as to where I can find the software repositories section in Yast. Had no luck. Bob

Could you please trim out your replies?? Open YaST supply root's passwd and look in the Software area. It is plain site. dkms is in the packman repo. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/26/2012 06:21 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote:

Regis, could you be more specific as to where I can find the software

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repositories section in Yast. Had no luck. Bob

Could you please trim out your replies??

Open YaST supply root's passwd and look in the Software area. It is plain site.

dkms is in the packman repo.

Got it. Now hopefully after reboot I can start VB with that green arrow. Thanks Bob

It started with green arrow and got to first screen, then hung up with this error:Could not open the medium: /home/benjie1/VirtualBox VMs/virboxa/virboxa.vdi What medium is it not able to open? Thanks guys. Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Am 27.03.2012 00:41, schrieb Robert Benjamin:

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It started with green arrow and got to first screen, then hung up with this error:Could not open the medium: /home/benjie1/VirtualBox VMs/virboxa/virboxa.vdi What medium is it not able to open? Thanks guys. Bob

Well this indicates that you - Configured VBox to use a virtual disc image that does not exist or - have no acces right to the file

The file mentioned is the file that contains your virtual disc. It should contain the "virtual" operating system that you hopefully installed in your vm.

Cheers, Martin During the VM install, it asked to make a virtual drive, fixed or dynamic of at least 20 Gigs. That was done and the next page listed several extensions like .vdi which was ticked. I left it as is and

On 03/26/2012 05:19 PM, Smartysmart34 wrote: proceeded to click create. So I guess that wasn't the thing to do. Can it be fixed? Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Now with the start button it is good for a few seconds and then I get this error: FATAL: Could not read from the boot medium! System halted. Hope there aren't any more error messages left. LOL Bob Well I got win 7 as guest up and running. Did the same yesterday in one try with Ubuntu 11.10. Here, the FATAL error continued to show. Checked the settings and found out that it was not pointing to the win7.iso Fixed that and had to do /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup again. Then, start arrow and all is well. No FATAL error. Not sure why it went away but I'm sure you people do. Hope this is of some help. Thanks again for all the help and patience you have given me as I struggled to learn about this and Linux. All your time ,effort and patience is much appreciated. BTW, anyone know why in Ubuntu is installed one one try as opposed to here. Just curious. Bye. Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

You now know why you get the fatal error message: when you click the green arrow _for the first time_ after setting up a new virtual disk, it will stop and ask you where that that is down to experience.the boot medium is. just like when booting from a live cd or boot cd. The default is the dvd drive of the host computer. If, like yourself, you have not burned it to dvd then simply point the installation at the iso you have downloaded. You do that in the first dialogue you get after hitting the green arrow. that seems to be the bit where we were failing. I'll try and get a screenshot of it and put a link in this thread for others.

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Thanks again for all the help and patience you have given me as I struggled to learn about this and Linux. All your time ,effort and patience is much appreciated. No problem. Shall we mark it as solved?

yes we can mark it as solved.

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BTW, anyone know why in Ubuntu is installed one one try as opposed to here. Just curious. Bye.

The procedure for installing Ubuntu is the same as for installing win 7. If you are saying that you installed it successfully at the first attempt, then I'd say it was down to experience. BTW, how does the Ubuntu performance compare to the win 7 performance? On my best machine, Linux graphics crawls along compared to windows, the latter being just about as fast as running natively:-(

Yes Ubuntu is slower compared with win 7 but I don't do much graphics. Mostly text - exams, syllabi, etc for my students. I just don't like win7 or win in general. And yes I'm sure that experience was a factor in the easy installation in Ubuntu. Tks. Bob

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