On Monday, September 13, 2010 06:16:21 am Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Terry Eck [09-12-10 14:48]:

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I hope I'm just missing some rpm and someone can help me out. When I issue "glxgears" the following is displayed on the console:

lib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.

you do not have 3d enabled, ie: nv is driver no nvidia

Just a question. I have e.g. nouveau (nv) on my machine and glxgears is able to run. Is nv better as general thought? My NVIDIA card is not included antmore in the newest nvidia drivers. GeForce2 MX/MX400. And I never was able or had the time to install the nvidia 96.43.18 driver which would be the driver of choice. -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.3 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.36-rc3-10-desktop LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) 12:29pm up 1 day 0:20, 3 users, load average: 2.08, 1.92, 1.93 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday, September 13, 2010 01:04:13 pm Basil Chupin wrote:

On 13/09/2010 15:35, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

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On Monday, September 13, 2010 06:16:21 am Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Terry Eck [09-12-10 14:48]:

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I hope I'm just missing some rpm and someone can help me out. When I issue "glxgears" the following is displayed on the console:

lib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.

you do not have 3d enabled, ie: nv is driver no nvidia

Just a question. I have e.g. nouveau (nv) on my machine and glxgears is able to run. Is nv better as general thought?

My NVIDIA card is not included anymore in the newest nvidia drivers. GeForce2 MX/MX400. And I never was able or had the time to install the nvidia 96.43.18 driver which would be the driver of choice.

But why not? Not complicated.

Unless things have changed radically in recent times, download & install the kernel source; then download the #96 driver from nVidia site. Easier if you then transfer/copy it into a simple recognisable directory such as ~/temp0 for example.

Do CTRL-ALT-F3; then place yourself in the ~/temp0 directory (or whichever) [cd /home/<your-home-name>/temp0] and do "sh NVIDIA<tab> " and then press RETURN to execute the driver's installation script. Follow the prompts which appear - answer Yes or No.

After the driver is installed, CTRL-ALT-F7 and you are back on your Desktop with nVidia driver installed. Easy-peasy.

BC

Will keep this explanation handy ;) But what are the advantages of the nividia driver towards the nouveau driver. Would I see improvements apart from the Nvidia splash screen halfway booting? -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.3 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.36-rc3-10-desktop LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) 13:49pm up 1 day 1:40, 3 users, load average: 1.57, 1.85, 1.93 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 13/09/2010 17:02, Peter Nikolic wrote:

On Monday 13 Sep 2010 07:52:16 C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

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On Monday, September 13, 2010 01:04:13 pm Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 13/09/2010 15:35, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

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On Monday, September 13, 2010 06:16:21 am Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Terry Eck [09-12-10 14:48]:

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I hope I'm just missing some rpm and someone can help me out. When I issue "glxgears" the following is displayed on the console:

lib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.

you do not have 3d enabled, ie: nv is driver no nvidia

Just a question. I have e.g. nouveau (nv) on my machine and glxgears is able to run. Is nv better as general thought?

My NVIDIA card is not included anymore in the newest nvidia drivers. GeForce2 MX/MX400. And I never was able or had the time to install the nvidia 96.43.18 driver which would be the driver of choice.

But why not? Not complicated.

Unless things have changed radically in recent times, download& install the kernel source; then download the #96 driver from nVidia site. Easier if you then transfer/copy it into a simple recognisable directory such as ~/temp0 for example.

Do CTRL-ALT-F3; then place yourself in the ~/temp0 directory (or whichever) [cd /home/<your-home-name>/temp0] and do "sh NVIDIA<tab> " and then press RETURN to execute the driver's installation script. Follow the prompts which appear - answer Yes or No.

After the driver is installed, CTRL-ALT-F7 and you are back on your Desktop with nVidia driver installed. Easy-peasy.

BC

Will keep this explanation handy ;)

But what are the advantages of the nividia driver towards the nouveau driver. Would I see improvements apart from the Nvidia splash screen halfway booting?

Dont forget you need to do " init 3" before you install the driver and "init 5" once it is installed all as root

Pete .

Which is where CTRL-ALT-F3 comes in and then CTRL-ALT-F7 comes in... BC -- Fact is that which enough people believe. Truth is determined by how fervently they believe it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 13/09/2010 22:39, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Basil Chupin [09-13-10 03:33]:

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On 13/09/2010 17:02, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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Dont forget you need to do " init 3" before you install the driver and "init 5" once it is installed all as root

Which is where CTRL-ALT-F3 comes in and then CTRL-ALT-F7 comes in...

Please trim....!

No,<ctrl><alt><f3> and<ctrl><alt><f7> do change you from runlevel 5 to 3 and back, they only change you to a text console. It is imperative that you do "init 3", install the new driver, then "init 5".

Absolutely correct, Patrick. Not having done this for quite some time makes the memory grow dimmer....

Thanks for trimming.

My pleasure. BC -- Fact is that which enough people believe. Truth is determined by how fervently they believe it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 13/09/2010 17:02, Peter Nikolic wrote:

On Monday 13 Sep 2010 07:52:16 C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

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On Monday, September 13, 2010 01:04:13 pm Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 13/09/2010 15:35, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

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On Monday, September 13, 2010 06:16:21 am Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Terry Eck [09-12-10 14:48]:

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I hope I'm just missing some rpm and someone can help me out. When I issue "glxgears" the following is displayed on the console:

lib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.

you do not have 3d enabled, ie: nv is driver no nvidia

Just a question. I have e.g. nouveau (nv) on my machine and glxgears is able to run. Is nv better as general thought?

My NVIDIA card is not included anymore in the newest nvidia drivers. GeForce2 MX/MX400. And I never was able or had the time to install the nvidia 96.43.18 driver which would be the driver of choice.

But why not? Not complicated.

Unless things have changed radically in recent times, download& install the kernel source; then download the #96 driver from nVidia site. Easier if you then transfer/copy it into a simple recognisable directory such as ~/temp0 for example.

Do CTRL-ALT-F3; then place yourself in the ~/temp0 directory (or whichever) [cd /home/<your-home-name>/temp0] and do "sh NVIDIA<tab> " and then press RETURN to execute the driver's installation script. Follow the prompts which appear - answer Yes or No.

After the driver is installed, CTRL-ALT-F7 and you are back on your Desktop with nVidia driver installed. Easy-peasy.

BC

Will keep this explanation handy ;)

But what are the advantages of the nividia driver towards the nouveau driver. Would I see improvements apart from the Nvidia splash screen halfway booting?

Dont forget you need to do " init 3" before you install the driver and "init 5" once it is installed all as root

Pete, you are absolutely correct - I haven't had to compile the driver from nVidia for some time and so have forgotten this step (init3) followed by step init5. Thanks for the reminded and correction. (However, remember that if you tried doing it the way I said you would get an error message stating that one needs to go init3 before compiling the driver.) BC -- Fact is that which enough people believe. Truth is determined by how fervently they believe it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 13/09/10 07:52, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

On Monday, September 13, 2010 01:04:13 pm Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 13/09/2010 15:35, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

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On Monday, September 13, 2010 06:16:21 am Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Terry Eck [09-12-10 14:48]:

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I hope I'm just missing some rpm and someone can help me out. When I issue "glxgears" the following is displayed on the console:

lib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.

you do not have 3d enabled, ie: nv is driver no nvidia

Just a question. I have e.g. nouveau (nv) on my machine and glxgears is able to run. Is nv better as general thought?

My NVIDIA card is not included anymore in the newest nvidia drivers. GeForce2 MX/MX400. And I never was able or had the time to install the nvidia 96.43.18 driver which would be the driver of choice.

But why not? Not complicated.

Unless things have changed radically in recent times, download & install the kernel source; then download the #96 driver from nVidia site. Easier if you then transfer/copy it into a simple recognisable directory such as ~/temp0 for example.

Do CTRL-ALT-F3; then place yourself in the ~/temp0 directory (or whichever) [cd /home/<your-home-name>/temp0] and do "sh NVIDIA<tab> " and then press RETURN to execute the driver's installation script. Follow the prompts which appear - answer Yes or No.

After the driver is installed, CTRL-ALT-F7 and you are back on your Desktop with nVidia driver installed. Easy-peasy.

BC

Will keep this explanation handy ;)

But what are the advantages of the nividia driver towards the nouveau driver. Would I see improvements apart from the Nvidia splash screen halfway booting?

The problem you will encounter is that nvidia has not updated their 96.43.18 driver to build against latest kernels (e.g. 2.6.34 that came with 11.3). So you will have to patch the interface to build; you may find some useful patches to get it compatible with up to 2.6.25 at least in https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=nvidia-gfx&project=X11%3ADrivers%3AVideo That's the reason its not available in the official nvidia repository any more... Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday, September 15, 2010 05:22:25 pm Tejas Guruswamy wrote:

On 13/09/10 13:49, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:

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On 13/09/10 07:52, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

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On Monday, September 13, 2010 01:04:13 pm Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 13/09/2010 15:35, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

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On Monday, September 13, 2010 06:16:21 am Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Terry Eck [09-12-10 14:48]: > I hope I'm just missing some rpm and someone can help me out. When I > issue "glxgears" the following is displayed on the console: > > lib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.

you do not have 3d enabled, ie: nv is driver no nvidia

Just a question. I have e.g. nouveau (nv) on my machine and glxgears is able to run. Is nv better as general thought?

My NVIDIA card is not included anymore in the newest nvidia drivers. GeForce2 MX/MX400. And I never was able or had the time to install the nvidia 96.43.18 driver which would be the driver of choice.

But why not? Not complicated.

Unless things have changed radically in recent times, download & install the kernel source; then download the #96 driver from nVidia site. Easier if you then transfer/copy it into a simple recognisable directory such as ~/temp0 for example.

Do CTRL-ALT-F3; then place yourself in the ~/temp0 directory (or whichever) [cd /home/<your-home-name>/temp0] and do "sh NVIDIA<tab> " and then press RETURN to execute the driver's installation script. Follow the prompts which appear - answer Yes or No.

After the driver is installed, CTRL-ALT-F7 and you are back on your Desktop with nVidia driver installed. Easy-peasy.

Dear Basil,

You were the one who said the install would be easy-peasy ;). Did what you said and are now close to installing the NVIDIA driver. Looks easier but it starts already with the info that I would not have cc or gcc installed. As far as I can find out gcc is there, the kernel dev is there. What to do about cc? Are there other packages that I need to download? Small problems for the experts but I am new to this part of linux. Constant -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.3 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.36-rc4-18-desktop LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) 21:55pm up 0:14, 2 users, load average: 1.24, 1.50, 1.08 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday, September 16, 2010 02:47:17 am David C. Rankin wrote:

On 09/13/2010 01:52 AM, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

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Will keep this explanation handy ;)

But what are the advantages of the nividia driver towards the nouveau driver. Would I see improvements apart from the Nvidia splash screen halfway booting?

Bottom line is the nvidia driver contains the closed-source optimizations, gpu downclocking, and performance benefits that the nv driver is working to achieve. The nv driver is good, but it doesn't have the benefit of the chipset level optimizations that the nvidia driver has. I have used the nvidia driver on everything from opensuse (I think 9.0 with my old MX440) to 11.2 and my 8800GT and I always get better performance/stability out of the nvidia driver. If the nvidia driver gets broken by an update, then I'll drop back to the nv driver until the nvidia driver gets fixed.

The easiest thing to do if you still run an xorg.conf is just keep and xorg.conf.nvidia and an xorg.conf.nv. The only/main difference is the Driver line. For the nvidia driver, do something like this:

Section "Device" BoardName "GeForce 8800 GT" BusID "2:0:0" Driver "nvidia" Identifier "Device[0]" VendorName "NVIDIA" Option "Coolbits" "1" EndSection

for the nv driver, do this:

Section "Device" BoardName "GeForce 8800 GT" BusID "2:0:0" Driver "nv" Identifier "Device[0]" VendorName "NVIDIA" EndSection

Then just 'cp xorg.conf.nvidia xorg.conf' to load the nvidia driver or 'cp xorg.conf.nv xorg.conf' to load the nv driver and restart X.

and.. yes you can edit the xorg.conf file by hand despite all the nonsense at the top of the file. It is just a standard text config file. As a matter of fact, if you want to optimize your graphics performance, you can add/remove/change options for your card and setup that can really help your graphics system perform. You can google something like 'xorg.conf tweaks nvidia' and probably find a wealth of info that will help.

Enjoy! (and always backup your original xorg.conf before you start hacking :)

Thanks David. That was the last and important info I was hoping for as to why hunt the nvidia driver. Due to the inability to automatically to recognize my monitor setting since the dead of sax2 I have to use a "xorg.conf". Did not find another way to save my monitor refresh rate. And now I am up to change back to nvidia. -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.3 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.36-rc3-16-desktop LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) 12:00pm up 1 day 14:00, 3 users, load average: 1.68, 1.25, 1.22 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2010-09-15 21:47, David C. Rankin wrote:

Then just 'cp xorg.conf.nvidia xorg.conf' to load the nvidia driver or 'cp xorg.conf.nv xorg.conf' to load the nv driver and restart X.

You can have both settings on the same file, and activate one or another section. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Minas Tirith))