Hi Im having problems with my new screen, where at boot time i get a message "out of scan range 37.1KHz 50HZ" And only when KDE has started and i get the login screen the piccture shows. I cant even go into BIOS cause i dont see anything until its booted. What can i do about this? I had problems with my old screen also like when i shutdown via the kmenu the screen switches off and doesnt come back on. i had to type "shutdown -h now". Also if i change the resolution with SAX when i get to the test window the screen switches off and now {crtl alt del} or {ctrl alt bs} helps. Anyone knows how to resolve this? Thanx
* Marko <markos@ananzi.co.za> [06-06-05 10:09]:
Im having problems with my new screen, where at boot time i get a message "out of scan range
37.1KHz 50HZ"
an experience based guess would be that 37.1 was below or 50 was above the horizontal sync or vertical refresh max for your screen. Look on the windoz install disk for your monitor for the .ini file. It is text and will contain the proper value. Or, google for the correct value(s). -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 05:14:47PM +0200, Marko wrote:
Hi Im having problems with my new screen, where at boot time i get a message "out of scan range
37.1KHz 50HZ"
And only when KDE has started and i get the login screen the piccture shows. I cant even go into BIOS cause i dont see anything until its booted. What can i do about this? I had problems with my old screen also like when i shutdown via the kmenu the screen switches off and doesnt come back on. i had to type "shutdown -h now". Also if i change the resolution with SAX when i get to the test window the screen switches off and now {crtl alt del} or {ctrl alt bs} helps. Anyone knows how to resolve this?
I have this problem when I try to run Spheres of Chaos with my monitor - basically, the output from the video card in standard text mode is simply too slow for your monitor. You might like to try to connect an older monitor, switch into text mode, and use YaST to set a text mode with a higher resolution and refresh rate; that might bring it up within range of your new monitor. You still won't be able to access the BIOS with your new monitor, though. HTH... -- David Smith Work Email: Dave.Smith@st.com STMicroelectronics Home Email: David.Smith@ds-electronics.co.uk Bristol, England GPG Key: 0xF13192F2
Marko wrote:
Hi Im having problems with my new screen, where at boot time i get a message "out of scan range
37.1KHz 50HZ"
And only when KDE has started and i get the login screen the piccture shows. I cant even go into BIOS cause i dont see anything until its booted. What can i do about this? I had problems with my old screen also like when i shutdown via the kmenu the screen switches off and doesnt come back on. i had to type "shutdown -h now". Also if i change the resolution with SAX when i get to the test window the screen switches off and now {crtl alt del} or {ctrl alt bs} helps. Anyone knows how to resolve this?
Thanx
I suppose you have a TFT screen edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add vga=792 (that's what I have) ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title SUSE LINUX 9.3 kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 vga=792 selinux=0 splash=silent resume=/dev/hda1 showopts it depends on your resolution and colour depth. Look at the table below FX # Framebuffer Resolution Settings for the hex handicaped among us. # This is what the original (non)helpful grub entry in my menu.lst said: # +========================================+ # FRAMEBUFFER RESOLUTION SETTINGS # +----------------------------------------+ # | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 # ----+----------------------------------- # 256 | 0x301 0x303 0x305 0x307 # 32K | 0x310 0x313 0x316 0x319 # 64K | 0x311 0x314 0x317 0x31A # 16M | 0x312 0x315 0x318 0x31B # +----------------------------------------+ # +========================================+ END Entry +XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX+ BEGIN my 1st research find here: # Credit where credit is due... # I found this helpful translation table here: # http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/configs/linux/menu.lst # vga=xxx sets the framebuffer console to a specific resolution. # Here is a table you can use so it can help you decide # what resolution you want to use: # colour depth | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 # 256 (8bit) | 769 771 773 775 # 32000 (15bit) | 784 787 790 793 # 65000 (16bit) | 785 788 791 794 # 16.7 Mill. (24bit) | 786 789 792 795
Hi No i dont have a TFT screen i got a 19" Dell M993c and a HIS radeon 9800pro G-Card. What are the chances i can do the same thing you and sorting the problem out? Thx for the interest in my prob... On Monday 06 June 2005 18:32, FX Fraipont wrote:
Marko wrote:
Hi Im having problems with my new screen, where at boot time i get a message "out of scan range
37.1KHz 50HZ"
And only when KDE has started and i get the login screen the piccture shows. I cant even go into BIOS cause i dont see anything until its booted. What can i do about this? I had problems with my old screen also like when i shutdown via the kmenu the screen switches off and doesnt come back on. i had to type "shutdown -h now". Also if i change the resolution with SAX when i get to the test window the screen switches off and now {crtl alt del} or {ctrl alt bs} helps. Anyone knows how to resolve this?
Thanx
I suppose you have a TFT screen
edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add vga=792 (that's what I have) ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title SUSE LINUX 9.3 kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 vga=792 selinux=0 splash=silent resume=/dev/hda1 showopts
it depends on your resolution and colour depth. Look at the table below
FX
# Framebuffer Resolution Settings for the hex handicaped among us.
# This is what the original (non)helpful grub entry in my menu.lst said:
# +========================================+
# FRAMEBUFFER RESOLUTION SETTINGS # +----------------------------------------+ # | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 # ----+----------------------------------- # 256 | 0x301 0x303 0x305 0x307 # 32K | 0x310 0x313 0x316 0x319 # 64K | 0x311 0x314 0x317 0x31A # 16M | 0x312 0x315 0x318 0x31B # +----------------------------------------+
# +========================================+
END Entry +XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX+
BEGIN my 1st research find here:
# Credit where credit is due... # I found this helpful translation table here: # http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/configs/linux/menu.lst
# vga=xxx sets the framebuffer console to a specific resolution. # Here is a table you can use so it can help you decide # what resolution you want to use: # colour depth | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 # 256 (8bit) | 769 771 773 775 # 32000 (15bit) | 784 787 790 793 # 65000 (16bit) | 785 788 791 794 # 16.7 Mill. (24bit) | 786 789 792 795
Marko wrote:
Hi No i dont have a TFT screen i got a 19" Dell M993c and a HIS radeon 9800pro G-Card. What are the chances i can do the same thing you and sorting the problem out? Thx for the interest in my prob...
Framebuffer vga=*** only affects what you see before the graphical login. You can also try by passing any of these values on boot: just type vga=792 for example, you'll see if boot information is displayed. so for a 19' monitor, that would be 1280x1024*16 million colors. Should be OK. It so, add the line to menu.lst in grub. fx colour depth | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 # 256 (8bit) | 769 771 773 775 # 32000 (15bit) | 784 787 790 793 # 65000 (16bit) | 785 788 791 794 # 16.7 Mill. (24bit) | 786 789 792 795
Well this kinda worked. I still cant see anything untill SuSE starts booting, i cant choose the OS i wanna boot since i cant see the menu i can only guess when to press down but at least i see suse booting bfore it shows the login screen. Also i still cant get into bios :( but its a start. Do you thing acpi has anything to do with it? Cause mine is switched off, i thought that was the reason i had problems with my old screen so i installed with acpi=off. Thanx On Monday 06 June 2005 21:46, FX Fraipont wrote:
Marko wrote:
Hi No i dont have a TFT screen i got a 19" Dell M993c and a HIS radeon 9800pro G-Card. What are the chances i can do the same thing you and sorting the problem out? Thx for the interest in my prob...
Framebuffer vga=*** only affects what you see before the graphical login. You can also try by passing any of these values on boot: just type vga=792 for example, you'll see if boot information is displayed.
so for a 19' monitor, that would be 1280x1024*16 million colors. Should be OK. It so, add the line to menu.lst in grub.
fx
colour depth | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 # 256 (8bit) | 769 771 773 775 # 32000 (15bit) | 784 787 790 793 # 65000 (16bit) | 785 788 791 794 # 16.7 Mill. (24bit) | 786 789 792 795
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2005-06-06 at 23:03 +0200, Marko wrote:
Well this kinda worked. I still cant see anything untill SuSE starts booting, i cant choose the OS i wanna boot since i cant see the menu i can only guess when to press down but at least i see suse booting bfore it shows the login screen. Also i still cant get into bios :( but its a start. Do you thing acpi has anything to do with it? Cause mine is switched off, i thought that was the reason i had problems with my old screen so i installed with acpi=off.
Try... but that will not affect bios. If I bought a new monitor and it could not show the bios screen, I would seriously consider returning it. Perhaps changing the video card, or finding if there is a bios setup for the video mode the bios uses. Weird! - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFCpPrVtTMYHG2NR9URAvVwAJ96zpmUEclSWZ8zUchpulBKmBpqVACfTi63 WRVL9CPo2kYNo/qs4b6JfKk= =LZ+T -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Monday 2005-06-06 at 23:03 +0200, Marko wrote:
Well this kinda worked. I still cant see anything untill SuSE starts booting, i cant choose the OS i wanna boot since i cant see the menu i can only guess when to press down but at least i see suse booting bfore it shows the login screen. Also i still cant get into bios :( but its a start. Do you thing acpi has anything to do with it? Cause mine is switched off, i thought that was the reason i had problems with my old screen so i installed with acpi=off.
Try... but that will not affect bios.
If I bought a new monitor and it could not show the bios screen, I would seriously consider returning it. Perhaps changing the video card, or finding if there is a bios setup for the video mode the bios uses.
My monitor appears to shut down, during reboot, so the the first few seconds are not visible. If I want to go into the BIOS set up, I have to wait for the beep, before hitting F1, to go into set up. This doesn't mean that the monitor is defective. It's simply an way of reducing power consumption.
On Monday 06 June 2005 09:39 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
screen. Also i still cant get into bios :(:( but its a start. Do you thing acpi
has anything to do with it? Cause mine is switched off, i thought that was the reason i had problems with my old screen so i installed with acpi=off.
Try... but that will not affect bios.
If I bought a new monitor and it could not show the bios screen, I would seriously consider returning it. Perhaps changing the video card, or finding if there is a bios setup for the video mode the bios uses.
Nobody has mentioned this I think but if this is an LCD monitor, they usually have an auto-adjust feature as part of the setup buttons. Perhaps this would clear things up. The auto-adjust would let the monitor set itself to the frequency that is being handed to it (if possible).
What monitor is it. I had a monitor that only worked at a certain frequency. When you boot your pc you will get no signal but when it boots into the OS and say you set your refresh rate to 75 you will get signal. For the monitor to work before it boots into the OS you will need to purchase a graphics card that runs at the correct refresh rate of the monitor. Regards On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:11:03 -0400 Bruce Marshall <bmarsh@bmarsh.com> wrote:
On Monday 06 June 2005 09:39 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
screen. Also i still cant get into bios :(:( but its a start. Do you thing acpi
has anything to do with it? Cause mine is switched off, i thought that was the reason i had problems with my old screen so i installed with acpi=off.
Try... but that will not affect bios.
If I bought a new monitor and it could not show the bios screen, I would seriously consider returning it. Perhaps changing the video card, or finding if there is a bios setup for the video mode the bios uses.
Nobody has mentioned this I think but if this is an LCD monitor, they usually have an auto-adjust feature as part of the setup buttons. Perhaps this would clear things up.
The auto-adjust would let the monitor set itself to the frequency that is being handed to it (if possible).
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