Re: [SLE] SuSE 10.1 Installer: D
Kenneth,
Yes. I ran the md5 sums on my disks in addition to the fact that k3b seems to have done something of the sort automagically before I burned each CD. (I could be wrong, but I wouldn't trust sucha feature anyway.)
I also verified each CD in the media check stage of the install. So I am nearly as sure as I can get that I (a) had the right ISOs on hand and (b) made good CDs from them.
As for speed, I don't expect my ancient 'puter to be fast, but it did seem slower. Some subsequent actual use has put that into perspective, though. Using FVWM (my preferred window manager anyway) feels about the same overall as before. Perhaps things seemed slower after fighting the installer all day and being unable to boot from the hard disk.... :-/
In fairness, I have heard from others who tried 10.1 (but the boxed set) and had no problems installing it.
But still. Mine's a fairly simple setup. It shouldn't have ended up FUBAR like it has.
Steve
--- "Kenneth Aar, Grafikern.no" <kenneth@grafikern.no> wrote:
Steve Miller wrote:
<snip>
(c) The system is a LOT slower. I use a Pentium III 450 MHz at home, so maybe this is a bit unfair, but still. This is NOTICEABLY slower than it (8.2) used to be. Really.
<snip>
Hi
Did you check the md5 sum on your install cd? Did you install the gold master or one of the release candidates? I have successfully installed SUSE 10.1 GM on a 700 mhz, 512 mb ram Siemens scenic machine and ten other(more recent) machines. Aside from the new package manager being broken I think the installations has gone very smooth.
Your hardware is also very old and you can't expect suse 10.1 to run faster on a box like the one you described than 8.1.
Other than that my suse 10.1 is more responsive than both suse 9.1, 9,2, 9,3 and 10 compared with the following: boot time (50 sec), launching firefox first time (4 sec), launching konq (1 sec), shut-down (15 seconds).
-- Kenneth Aar
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Le Mercredi 31 Mai 2006 18:29, Steve Miller a écrit :
Kenneth,
Yes. I ran the md5 sums on my disks in addition to the fact that k3b seems to have done something of the sort automagically before I burned each CD. (I could be wrong, but I wouldn't trust sucha feature anyway.)
I also verified each CD in the media check stage of the install. So I am nearly as sure as I can get that I (a) had the right ISOs on hand and (b) made good CDs from them.
As for speed, I don't expect my ancient 'puter to be fast, but it did seem slower. Some subsequent actual use has put that into perspective, though. Using FVWM (my preferred window manager anyway) feels about the same overall as before. Perhaps things seemed slower after fighting the installer all day and being unable to boot from the hard disk.... :-/
In fairness, I have heard from others who tried 10.1 (but the boxed set) and had no problems installing it.
But still. Mine's a fairly simple setup. It shouldn't have ended up FUBAR like it has.
Steve
--- "Kenneth Aar, Grafikern.no" <kenneth@grafikern.no>
wrote:
Steve Miller wrote:
<snip>
(c) The system is a LOT slower. I use a Pentium
III
450 MHz at home, so maybe this is a bit unfair,
but
still. This is NOTICEABLY slower than it (8.2)
used to
be. Really.
<snip>
Hi
Did you check the md5 sum on your install cd? Did you install the gold master or one of the release candidates? I have successfully installed SUSE 10.1 GM on a 700 mhz, 512 mb ram Siemens scenic machine and ten other(more recent) machines. Aside from the new package manager being broken I think the installations has gone very smooth.
Your hardware is also very old and you can't
expect
suse 10.1 to run faster on a box like the one you described than
8.1.
Other than that my suse 10.1 is more responsive
than
both suse 9.1, 9,2, 9,3 and 10 compared with the following: boot time (50 sec), launching firefox first time (4 sec), launching konq (1
sec),
shut-down (15 seconds).
-- Kenneth Aar
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I Steve, For the boot problem : Did you had a small boot partition, which was necessary on some old hardware ? (something related to the BIOS I think, but I am not an expert). I personally successfully upgraded a suse 10.0 to 10.1 on a Dell Laptop without a problem (apart from that zmd crap things....I miss SuSEwatcher !!). Just my 2 cents. Regards Matthias -- ___________________________________________________ Matthias Titeux, PhD Departement de génétique des maladies epithéliums INSERM U563 - CPTP Pavillon Lefebvre, 5ème étage CHU Purpan 31059 Toulouse cedex 03 __________________________________________________
Hi, As a followup to my previous week's post/rant/plea, I thought I'd give what amounts to my resolution of my installation problems, in case they might help others. I hadn't had a chance to tackle this until yesterday.... I will say again that I found this install extremely frustrating and puzzling since so many things that went wrong were rather basic in nature and fall into the category of "problems previously licked by the good folks at SuSE". PROBLEMS To recap, my big problems were (1) an inability to boot from disk after the install and (2) the "invisibility" of all removable storage media save my floppy disk. SOLUTIONS (1) I had to boot from the installer CD and eventually select "boot installed system" AFTER selecting "installation". Having done this, I logged on as root and reinstalled my boot loader. I had to tell it to do so on my hard drive's Master Boot Record -- as opposed to my root partition. Perhaps I had to tell YaST to do this since I have two hard drives, but this had never been an issue before, so it threw me for a loop. (2) My peripherals and removeable drives all appeared to have been detected during the install, but were the installer neither configured them automatically nor prompted me to do so during the installation. In addition to adding my scanner and printer via YaST, I had to do the following. I list each set of actions by device "recovered". (CDROM) As root, (a) in /media, mkdir cdrom; (b) add the following line to /etc/fstab: /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom auto noauto,ro,users,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 (PEN DRIVE) As root, (a) in /media, mkdir pen; (b) add to /etc/fstab: /dev/sda1 /media/pen auto noauto,user,sync 0 0 (c) added usb-storage to /etc/sysconfig/kernel; (d) mkinitrd. (ZIP -- Partially successful. See below.) (a) in /media, mkdir zip; (b) added to /etc/fstab: /dev/hdb4 /media/zip auto noauto,user,sync 0 0 (c) added ide-floppy to /etc/sysconfig/kernel; (d) mkinitrd. UNRESOLVED (1) The zip drive is somehow not quite autodetected. It seems that I have to either boot with a zip disk in the drive, probe for it by calling for hardware parameters in YaST with the disk inserted, or edit "hdb4" to "hdb" in /etc/fstab, attempt to mount, edit the "4" back in, then mount successfully. "hdb4" appears in /dev only after some sort of probing of the zip drive -- with disk insterted -- and gets erased upon reboot w/o the disk. This erasure occurs even if I manually add the device. I tried adding a soft link to the device there, too, and THAT disappeared upon reboot. So I have use of my zip drive, but must resort to what feels like "stupid Windows tricks" to use it. How can I get the system to automatically read the partition table of the zip disk once one is inserted? (2) And that brings me to a pair of possibly related questions. I hate automount, but was under the impression that this was the default under SuSE 10.1. I don't see media automount in FVWM, which is my default WM. No complaints there. But then, when my wife (but not I) logs into KDE (Which I also hate.), the pen drive is autodetected and apparently mounted as /media/sda1/ -- but without a corresponding /etc/fstab entry. And I never see the long, automatically-generated, serial-number-based device names I got used to in 9.2 anymore. I am able to mount the pen drive as /dev/sda1/ regardless of which individual drive I put in. I can use my devices, but this seems terribly haphazard. I am almost certainly missing something here. Any insights or illuminating links out there? Thanks in advance. Steve __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
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