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My favourite filemanager is still Krusader, which runs perfectly OK on the KDE4 desktop. Split screen, lots of info about partitions, files etc. Very configurable. Worth a look.

Mine's Midnight Commander. Works anywhere you can get to a command prompt :-)

Same here. On sco and sun too not just linux & freebsd. -- Brian K. White brian@aljex.com http://www.myspace.com/KEYofR +++++[>+++[>+++++>+++++++<<-]<-]>>+.>.+++++.+++++++.-.[>+<---]>++. filePro BBx Linux SCO FreeBSD #callahans Satriani Filk! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2008/10/24 10:54 (GMT-0400) Larry Stotler composed:

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Bob Williams

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My favourite filemanager is still Krusader, which runs perfectly OK on the KDE4 desktop. Split screen, lots of info about partitions, files etc. Very configurable. Worth a look.

Mine's Midnight Commander. Works anywhere you can get to a command prompt :-)

Mine's File Commander/2 & File Commander/W, but those require OS/2 & windoz, so on Linux I use Midnight Commander. Any file manager that isn't incredibly easy to use without a mouse or GUI is broken. :-) -- "Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry." James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Saturday 25 October 2008 04:39:50 Basil Chupin wrote:

Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2008/10/24 10:54 (GMT-0400) Larry Stotler composed:

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Bob Williams

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My favourite filemanager is still Krusader, which runs perfectly OK on the KDE4 desktop. Split screen, lots of info about partitions, files etc. Very configurable. Worth a look.

Mine's Midnight Commander. Works anywhere you can get to a command prompt :-)

Mine's File Commander/2 & File Commander/W, but those require OS/2 & windoz, so on Linux I use Midnight Commander. Any file manager that isn't incredibly easy to use without a mouse or GUI is broken. :-)

Midnight Commander is *the* file manager to use -- but to view photos etc then MC is kinda handicapped requiring something like Konqueror (or one of the picture viewers).

BTW, mc is not an automatic selection in 11.1 KDE4 and (from memory) doesn't even appear on the list of installable software. However, from command line, as root, 'zypper install mc' installs Midnight Commander.

If mc is not available as an installable application then I will kiss the distro. Goodbye.

Ciao.

-- If you go through life with your head in the sand, all people will see is an arse.

I shall take a look at Midnight Commander. Thanks -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.0, Kernel 2.6.25.16-0.1-default, KDE 4.1.2 Intel Celeron 2.53GB, 2GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 7600GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Saturday, 2008-10-25 at 14:39 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Midnight Commander is *the* file manager to use -- but to view photos etc then MC is kinda handicapped requiring something like Konqueror (or one of the picture viewers).

Just "enter" into a photo and it calls "display" to display it, if you are in X.

True, but you can only view one picture at a time and need to exit and then, after selecting a new one, hit RETURN on it to view it. Nor is it capable of displaying tiff images (if I recall correctly). Bottom line is that mc is a bit limited in this area.

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BTW, mc is not an automatic selection in 11.1 KDE4 and (from memory) doesn't even appear on the list of installable software. However, from command line, as root, 'zypper install mc' installs Midnight Commander.

I hope it is at least included in the text pattern. They usually forget to add it. I'd love to have it in the rescue dvd. I also hope that they add back in the Rescue option which is not on the CD at the moment. Following some upgrades a couple of days ago my 11.1 Beta3 can no longer use zypper to upgrade files- comes up with error message that the zypper-something-or-other-common-database-or-something cannot be found.

For the time being I've relegated Beta3 to the scrap heap as I don't have the time or the download capacity to waste on reinstalling it and downloading all the supposedly available files to meet dependencies for any upgrades. Ciao. -- If you go through life with your head in the sand, all people will see is an arse. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Basil Chupin [10-28-08 00:16]: ...

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True, but you can only view one picture at a time and need to exit and then, after selecting a new one, hit RETURN on it to view it.

Nor is it capable of displaying tiff images (if I recall correctly).

Bottom line is that mc is a bit limited in this area.

No, mc is not limited but "display" may be. You may configure mc to use whatever utility you wish to display photos or any other action. The actions mc makes are all configurable.

F9 -> C (or Command) Edit extension file Edit menu file Edit editor menu file Edit syntax file

It only does what you tell it or what it was previously configured to do.

Thanks, Patrick, I'll try this out later. Ciao. -- Understanding only begins with the act of perception. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

BTW, mc is not an automatic selection in 11.1 KDE4 and (from memory) doesn't even appear on the list of installable software. However, from command line, as root, 'zypper install mc' installs Midnight Commander.

It hasn't been a default for a while(since 10.0 I think). It's still there tho. It's under console tools.

If mc is not available as an installable application then I will kiss the distro. Goodbye.

I dunno. It's pretty easy to add it, even from source. I do think it would be a bad idea to remove it tho. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 22 October 2008 11:51, Dave Howorth wrote:

Dotan Cohen wrote:

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This is what's holding me back from KDE 4.x: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165402 (No "show keyboard status" indicator in KDE4 )

They seem to be taking their time addressing a serious accessibility issue :( One possible way to speed things up that occurs to me is to try to use the law. Find some large organization, preferably with a service contract, and have an employee affected by this issue raise it with human resources in a timely manner to avoid future inconvenience.

For example, I think the city of Munich chose to run Linux, supplied by Suse and IBM. I guess there's a fair chance Munich has at least one employee who uses Sticky Keys and I guess neither IBM nor Suse would want to lose the account when 11.2 comes out.

While what you say is a good idea, I doubt that Munich is running opensuse. Most likely some form of sles. Mike -- 12:24pm up 13 days 15:33, 4 users, load average: 2.01, 2.07, 2.11 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:51:04AM +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:

For example, I think the city of Munich chose to run Linux, supplied by Suse and IBM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux -- Sonja Krause-Harder (skh@suse.de) SUSE Research & Development ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE Linux Products GmbH GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stefan Hundhammer wrote:

Back then, the SuSE and IBM salespeople and consultants did a great job to convince the officials of the city of Munich of the benefits of Linux. For quite some time, it looked as if they'd won that contract. But then, the city of Munich decided to make their own Linux distribution based on Debian.

Kudos to Suse and IBM for making the sale and commiserations on not receiving the direct benefits :( Hopefully it has made future sales easier. I gather LiMux does use KDE though :)

So even if that convoluted plot worked (remember, this is not the US where you can sue everbody for whatever insane reason and expect to wind insane amounts of money), try pulling that stunt on Debian...

Actually I think Europe is better. It's not a question of sueing for damages, it's enforcing rights under equal-opportunity employment laws. In the UK one would use the Disability Discrimination Act, I believe. But I can't believe the TUV certification given to LiMux won't already require compliance with applicable legislation.

P.S. I am all in favour of getting all the functionality of KDE 3.x back into KDE 4.x.

And personally I don't care :P I currently run Gnome and Icewm and will probably move everything to xfce :) But I do think accessibility should have a much higher priority and awareness than it currently has. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org