On Wednesday 30 June 2004 22:43, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Doug McGarrett [06-30-04 21:29]:

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Holy smoke, is this slow. I asked it to print 5 minutes ago, and still have

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OK, 10 minutes, and it printed the whole screen, not just the region. Oy,

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There's an ap for Windows called Snap32.exe that does these things and

So you are bad-mouthing linux and promoting a proprietary costly system vs something you got for free. Making friends....

And what exactly is your question, or is it just your time of the month? -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org

/rant/ I guess his name should be yahoo, not wahoo, but somebody took that already. I did not get SuSE Linux for free, I paid something like $70 for it. I would like it to work just about as well as its hated competitor. I am NOT bad-mouthing Linux, I am trying to live with it, and SOMEDAY be able to use it exclusively. That day is obviously not here. I hope that it will be. So far there have been numerous complaints on this list that people can't use various resources on their machines--usb connections, DVD recorders, ordinary write-to-floppy (me), scanner software that doesn't work (me), and God knows what else. I have supported the Linux "movement" since the mid 1990's with my hard-earned dollars. I have never downloaded a freebie. For all this, I think I deserve some results. In all fairness, there have been many. But it is NOT ready for the desktop, unfortunately, even tho I'm trying to use it that way. And Mr. Shanahan seems to think that it is a sin to pay money for a program that works. I suppose he d/l's all his Linux vers from the net for nothing. I, on the other hand, have no compunction against sending some programmer a fair price for a good program that works. Or even to send a big company like Corel or Borland some bucks for a program I need. Linux is NOT free beer. I think most of us know that. /rant off/ --doug

Doug McGarrett wrote:

Holy smoke, is this slow. I asked it to print 5 minutes ago, and still have no output. (I will wait to see if I ever get any before sending this, but the print light on the HPLJ is flashing.)

OK, 10 minutes, and it printed the whole screen, not just the region. Oy, vey!

10 minutes? It only takes a couple of minutes on a humble HP DeskJet 840C for a whole screen, I guess it would be much less for just one window. I've always needed to capture screens and parts of screens for presentation to students and customers, no problems under Linux, haven't used Windows in years. Colleagues switching to Linux have all expressed disbelief at what it offers, none have switched back.

So it obviously needs to have cursors to outline the region you want to snapshot.

There's an ap for Windows called Snap32.exe that does these things and very well and very quickly. I think it was $15 shareware. That's what we need here. I'll cheerfully send the $15--but I want a working demo first!

--doug

There is a common misconception by those new to Linux that you are restricted by lack of decent applications, besides ksnapshot, there is xv, ImageMagick, Gnome Shooter and perhaps others (I forgot which one I used years ago before any of the others surfaced), all for free. After using Linux from version 0.x, I'm always discovering apps and new ways of doing things. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer ===== LINUX ONLY USED HERE =====

* Doug McGarrett [06-30-04 22:50]:

/rant/

I guess his name should be yahoo, not wahoo, but somebody took that already.

and perhaps your, 'don't dig' instead of doug

I did not get SuSE Linux for free, I paid something like $70 for it.

Good for you. Mine cost us$89.95. And I have purchased every Pro version since 7.0.

I would like it to work just about as well as its hated competitor. I am NOT bad-mouthing Linux, I am trying to live with it, and SOMEDAY be able to use it exclusively.

A re-read prior to posting then might adjust the tone of your post??

That day is obviously not here.

Some studying of TFM and other pub's about unix/linux then might help. ....

I have supported the Linux "movement" since the mid 1990's with my hard-earned dollars.

Must be a retension problem then.

I have never downloaded a freebie.

You have *never* downloaded an application for use in linux?? Or do you mean that you paid the author of the application that you downloaded?

For all this, I think I deserve some results.

I have paid Social Security (US) for over 50 years. I deserve more retirement benefits.

And Mr. Shanahan seems to think that it is a sin to pay money for a program that works.

Your words, not mine and not my thoughts.

I suppose he d/l's all his Linux vers from the net for nothing.

answered above.

I, on the other hand, have no compunction against sending some programmer a fair price for a good program that works.

You are paying the programmers or the packagers, who, I realize, do a great deal of programming, also???

Or even to send a big company like Corel or Borland some bucks for a program I need. Linux is NOT free beer. I think most of us know that.

/rant off/

Phew... I am glad that you indicated that there was ranting involved, as I doubt that much thought was. have a gud day -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos