Hello people, If no one has any more information about this, I will try submitting a bug report. Any objections/thoughts/recommendations? Regards, Joop ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [opensuse] KDE 4 no longer starts Date: Thursday 10 April 2008 From: "Joop Beris" <j.beris@nederweert.nl> To: opensuse@opensuse.org Hi all, I have a problem starting KDE 4. This occurred shortly after the KDE 4 repos were moved. The error which occurs is: "Could not start kstartupconfig4. Check your installation." If I run a KDE 4 application in a Konsole window, the error is a bit different: "# okular okular: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv" I have added the correct (IMHO) repos for KDE 4: download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/STABLE:/Desktop/openSUSE_10.3/ download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/STABLE:/Extra-Apps/openSUSE_10.3/ The opensuseupdater tells me that there are no updates available at all. I have already tried to remove anything related to KDE 4 using Yast2, including anything that claims to have dependencies with KDE 4. Then I reinstalled KDE 4 from the above mentioned repos. This has not had the desired effect. I have already asked this question here: http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=47969&hl=kde4, but there were no useful responses, unfortunately. Can someone help me, please? Thank you in advance, Joop ------------------------------------------------------------ Dit bericht is gescand op virussen en andere gevaarlijke inhoud door MailScanner en lijkt schoon te zijn. Mailscanner door http://www.prosolit.nl Professional Solutions fot IT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org ------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 no longer starts Date: Friday 11 April 2008 From: "Rajko M." <rmatov101@charter.net> To: opensuse@opensuse.org On Thursday 10 April 2008 03:18:59 am Joop Beris wrote:

Hi all,

I have a problem starting KDE 4. This occurred shortly after the KDE 4 repos were moved. The error which occurs is:

"Could not start kstartupconfig4. Check your installation."

If I run a KDE 4 application in a Konsole window, the error is a bit different:

"# okular okular: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv"

I have added the correct (IMHO) repos for KDE 4: download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/STABLE:/Desktop/openSUSE_10.3 / download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/STABLE:/Extra-Apps/openSUSE_1 0.3/

The opensuseupdater tells me that there are no updates available at all.

I have already tried to remove anything related to KDE 4 using Yast2, including anything that claims to have dependencies with KDE 4. Then I reinstalled KDE 4 from the above mentioned repos. This has not had the desired effect.

I would try zypper up -t package without limiting to KDE4 repository only. I had similar problem and the solution was to have Main OSS repository available as some package(s) was pulled from there, so 1-click install that is using only KDE4 repository didn't worked. -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org ------------------------------------------------------------ Dit bericht is gescand op virussen en andere gevaarlijke inhoud door MailScanner en lijkt schoon te zijn. Mailscanner door http://www.prosolit.nl Professional Solutions fot IT ------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 no longer starts Date: Friday 11 April 2008 From: "Joop Beris" <j.beris@nederweert.nl> To: opensuse@opensuse.org On Friday 11 April 2008 02:44:35 Rajko M. wrote:

I would try zypper up -t package without limiting to KDE4 repository only. I had similar problem and the solution was to have Main OSS repository available as some package(s) was pulled from there, so 1-click install that is using only KDE4 repository didn't worked.

Hi Rajko, Thank you for your suggestion. I tried your suggestion just now, which pulled in some updates, but it did not solve the problem. The Main OSS repo is available, so that can not be the problem. The error remains the same. Anyone? Thanks, Joop ------------------------------------------------------------ Dit bericht is gescand op virussen en andere gevaarlijke inhoud door MailScanner en lijkt schoon te zijn. Mailscanner door http://www.prosolit.nl Professional Solutions fot IT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org ------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 no longer starts Date: Monday 14 April 2008 From: "Joop Beris" <j.beris@nederweert.nl> To: opensuse@opensuse.org On Thursday 10 April 2008 10:18:59 Joop Beris wrote:

Hi all,

I have a problem starting KDE 4. This occurred shortly after the KDE 4 repos were moved. The error which occurs is:

"Could not start kstartupconfig4. Check your installation."

If I run a KDE 4 application in a Konsole window, the error is a bit different:

"# okular okular: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv"

I have added the correct (IMHO) repos for KDE 4: download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/STABLE:/Desktop/openSUSE_10.3 / download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/STABLE:/Extra-Apps/openSUSE_1 0.3/

The opensuseupdater tells me that there are no updates available at all.

I have already tried to remove anything related to KDE 4 using Yast2, including anything that claims to have dependencies with KDE 4. Then I reinstalled KDE 4 from the above mentioned repos. This has not had the desired effect.

I have already asked this question here: http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=47969&hl=kde4, but there were no useful responses, unfortunately.

I don't like replying to my own posts, but here is an update: This morning there were a whole bunch of updates to KDE 4, which I installed. Opensuseupdater again indicates there are no available updates. Howver, KDE 4 still does not start. Any KDE gurus have any idea where to start looking? Thanks, Joop ------------------------------------------------------------ Dit bericht is gescand op virussen en andere gevaarlijke inhoud door MailScanner en lijkt schoon te zijn. Mailscanner door http://www.prosolit.nl Professional Solutions fot IT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org ------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 no longer starts Date: Monday 14 April 2008 From: "Will Stephenson" <wstephenson@suse.de> To: opensuse@opensuse.org On Monday 14 April 2008, Joop Beris said:

On Thursday 10 April 2008 10:18:59 Joop Beris wrote:

...

Hi all,

I have a problem starting KDE 4. This occurred shortly after the KDE 4 repos were moved. The error which occurs is:

"Could not start kstartupconfig4. Check your installation."

If I run a KDE 4 application in a Konsole window, the error is a bit different:

"# okular okular: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv"

I have added the correct (IMHO) repos for KDE 4: download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/STABLE:/Desktop/openSUSE_10 .3 / download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/STABLE:/Extra-Apps/openSUSE _1 0.3/

The opensuseupdater tells me that there are no updates available at all.

I have already tried to remove anything related to KDE 4 using Yast2, including anything that claims to have dependencies with KDE 4. Then I reinstalled KDE 4 from the above mentioned repos. This has not had the desired effect.

I have already asked this question here: http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=47969&hl=kde4, but there were no useful responses, unfortunately.

I don't like replying to my own posts, but here is an update:

This morning there were a whole bunch of updates to KDE 4, which I installed. Opensuseupdater again indicates there are no available updates. Howver, KDE 4 still does not start. Any KDE gurus have any idea where to start looking?

.xsession-errors? Or switch to a text console, start an X server: $ X :1 & start dbus $ eval `dbus-launch --auto-syntax` start kde $ /usr/bin/startkde4 and look at the error messages. Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org ------------------------------------------------------------ Dit bericht is gescand op virussen en andere gevaarlijke inhoud door MailScanner en lijkt schoon te zijn. Mailscanner door http://www.prosolit.nl Professional Solutions fot IT ------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 no longer starts Date: Tuesday 15 April 2008 From: "Joop Beris" <j.beris@nederweert.nl> To: opensuse@opensuse.org Hi Will, Thanks for your suggestions. I tried them. Please see for the results below: On Monday 14 April 2008 18:12:15 Will Stephenson wrote:

.xsession-errors?

/etc/X11/xim: Checking whether an input method should be started. /etc/X11/xim: user environment variable LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sourcing /etc/sysconfig/language to get the value of INPUT_METHOD INPUT_METHOD is not set or empty (no user selected input method). Trying to start a default input method for the locale en_US.UTF-8 ... There is no default input method for the current locale. kstartupconfig4: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv

Or switch to a text console, Yup

start an X server: $ X :1 & Done, no errors

start dbus $ eval `dbus-launch --auto-syntax` Done, no output (so no errors)

start kde $ /usr/bin/startkde4

and look at the error messages. Error messages below:

xsetroot: unable to open display '' kstartupconfig4: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv Error: Can't open display: That's all. What am I doing wrong, or what is wrong on my machine? Thanks, Joop ------------------------------------------------------------ Dit bericht is gescand op virussen en andere gevaarlijke inhoud door MailScanner en lijkt schoon te zijn. Mailscanner door http://www.prosolit.nl Professional Solutions fot IT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org ------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 no longer starts Date: Wednesday 16 April 2008 From: "Rajko M." <rmatov101@charter.net> To: opensuse@opensuse.org On Tuesday 15 April 2008 08:14:18 am Joop Beris wrote:

Hi Will, ... Error messages below:

xsetroot: unable to open display '' kstartupconfig4: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv Error: Can't open display:

That's all.

What am I doing wrong, or what is wrong on my machine?

It seems nothing. The error is libqt4 related. I had yesterday problems to update Factory installation because of missing libqt4. I'm trying right now to update again and see is the problem still there. -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org ------------------------------------------------------------ Dit bericht is gescand op virussen en andere gevaarlijke inhoud door MailScanner en lijkt schoon te zijn. Mailscanner door http://www.prosolit.nl Professional Solutions fot IT ------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 no longer starts Date: Wednesday 16 April 2008 From: "Will Stephenson" <wstephenson@suse.de> To: opensuse@opensuse.org On Wednesday 16 April 2008, Rajko M. said:

On Tuesday 15 April 2008 08:14:18 am Joop Beris wrote:

...

Error messages below:

xsetroot: unable to open display '' kstartupconfig4: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv Error: Can't open display:

That's all.

What am I doing wrong, or what is wrong on my machine?

It seems nothing. The error is libqt4 related. I had yesterday problems to update Factory installation because of missing libqt4. I'm trying right now to update again and see is the problem still there.

That's not true, the libqt4 packages you have installed are not the same as those that the kde 4 packages you have were built against. To explain: when you build a program that uses a shared library, the linker makes a note of where to look in the shared library for the functions used in it by the program. If you change the shared library, the functions may not be where the program expects, so it bails out on startup. Check that all your libqt4 packages come from the same place - do rpm -qi on them and check the Distribution: line at the bottom. This should be KDE:Qt44, since they are aggregated out of that project into STABLE:Desktop. For the rest of the kde4 packages, it should be KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop or Extra-Apps. Let us know if this is not the case. Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org ------------------------------------------------------------ Dit bericht is gescand op virussen en andere gevaarlijke inhoud door MailScanner en lijkt schoon te zijn. Mailscanner door http://www.prosolit.nl Professional Solutions fot IT ------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 no longer starts Date: Wednesday 16 April 2008 From: "Joop Beris" <j.beris@nederweert.nl> To: opensuse@opensuse.org On Wednesday 16 April 2008 11:55:15 Will Stephenson wrote:

Check that all your libqt4 packages come from the same place - do rpm -qi on them and check the Distribution: line at the bottom. This should be KDE:Qt44, since they are aggregated out of that project into STABLE:Desktop. For the rest of the kde4 packages, it should be KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop or Extra-Apps. Let us know if this is not the case.

Hi Will, Thanks again for your input. I installed several updates this morning to KDE4 again, including KDE 4 base packages, which had apparently had been updated. I had hopes that they might have fixed things, but unfortunately no... Here is the output I get: # rpm -qi libqt4 Name : libqt4 Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 4.3.95+20080413 Vendor: openSUSE Build Service Release : 6.1 Build Date: Mon Apr 14 23:23:57 2008 Install Date: Wed Apr 16 11:00:08 2008 Build Host: build05 Group : System/Libraries Source RPM: libqt4-4.3.95+20080413-6.1.src.rpm Size : 4452388 License: GPL v2 only; GPL v3 only Signature : DSA/SHA1, Tue Apr 15 10:46:10 2008, Key ID 58d8ff412e1efa87 URL : http://www.trolltech.com Summary : C++ Program Library, Core Components Description : Qt is a set of libraries for developing applications. This package contains base tools, like string, xml, and network handling. Authors: -------- Troll Tech AS, Norway Distribution: KDE:Qt44 / openSUSE_10.3 ---------------------- I assume that the Distribution above is correct? All other packages that contain KDE4 in the name, come from the KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop repository, according to Yast2. Anything else I can check? Thanks again, Joop ------------------------------------------------------------ Dit bericht is gescand op virussen en andere gevaarlijke inhoud door MailScanner en lijkt schoon te zijn. Mailscanner door http://www.prosolit.nl Professional Solutions fot IT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org ------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 no longer starts Date: Wednesday 16 April 2008 From: "Will Stephenson" <wstephenson@suse.de> To: opensuse@opensuse.org On Wednesday 16 April 2008, Joop Beris said:

On Wednesday 16 April 2008 11:55:15 Will Stephenson wrote:

...

Check that all your libqt4 packages come from the same place - do rpm -qi on them and check the Distribution: line at the bottom. This should be KDE:Qt44, since they are aggregated out of that project into STABLE:Desktop. For the rest of the kde4 packages, it should be KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop or Extra-Apps. Let us know if this is not the case.

Hi Will,

Thanks again for your input. I installed several updates this morning to KDE4 again, including KDE 4 base packages, which had apparently had been updated. I had hopes that they might have fixed things, but unfortunately no...

Here is the output I get:

# rpm -qi libqt4 Name : libqt4 Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 4.3.95+20080413 Vendor: openSUSE Build Service Release : 6.1 Build Date: Mon Apr 14 23:23:57 2008 Install Date: Wed Apr 16 11:00:08 2008 Build Host: build05 Group : System/Libraries Source RPM: libqt4-4.3.95+20080413-6.1.src.rpm Size : 4452388 License: GPL v2 only; GPL v3 only Signature : DSA/SHA1, Tue Apr 15 10:46:10 2008, Key ID 58d8ff412e1efa87 URL : http://www.trolltech.com Summary : C++ Program Library, Core Components Description : Qt is a set of libraries for developing applications.

This package contains base tools, like string, xml, and network handling.

Authors: -------- Troll Tech AS, Norway Distribution: KDE:Qt44 / openSUSE_10.3

----------------------

I assume that the Distribution above is correct?

That's what it should be.

All other packages that contain KDE4 in the name, come from the KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop repository, according to Yast2.

Anything else I can check?

Check every qt4 subpackage listed by rpm -qa | grep libqt4 Which repos are you using (besides the KDE 4 ones you already listed)? Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org ------------------------------------------------------------ Dit bericht is gescand op virussen en andere gevaarlijke inhoud door MailScanner en lijkt schoon te zijn. Mailscanner door http://www.prosolit.nl Professional Solutions fot IT ------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 no longer starts Date: Wednesday 16 April 2008 From: "Joop Beris" <j.beris@nederweert.nl> To: opensuse@opensuse.org On Wednesday 16 April 2008 13:26:41 Will Stephenson wrote:

...

Troll Tech AS, Norway Distribution: KDE:Qt44 / openSUSE_10.3

----------------------

I assume that the Distribution above is correct?

That's what it should be.

Okay, then we have that ruled out.

Check every qt4 subpackage listed by rpm -qa | grep libqt4

Those are these packages: # rpm -qa | grep libqt4 libqt4-sql-4.3.95+20080413-6.1 libqt4-qt3support-4.3.95+20080413-6.1 libqt4-devel-4.3.95+20080413-6.1 libqt4-4.3.95+20080413-6.1 libqt4-x11-4.3.95+20080413-6.1 Yast2 tells me they are all from KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop repo (as listed on the Versions tab)

Which repos are you using (besides the KDE 4 ones you already listed)?

A lot. Listed in /etc/zypp/repos.d: Beryl,_Compiz_and_XGL.repo Google_Linux_Repository.repo KDE3.repo KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop.repo KDE_4_Extra_Apps.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_Emulators:_Wine_openSUSE_10.3_.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_KDE:_Backports_openSUSE_10.3_.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_KDE:_Community_openSUSE_10.3_.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_OpenOffice.org:_STABLE_openSUSE_10.3_.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_X11:_XGL_openSUSE_10.3_.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_drivers:_wlan_SUSE_Linux_Factory_.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_mozilla_openSUSE_10.3_.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_openSUSE:10.3_standard_.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_server:_database_openSUSE_10.3_.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_server:_mail_openSUSE_10.3_.repo http:__download.videolan.org_pub_videolan_vlc_SuSE_10.3_.repo http:__ftp.skynet.be_pub_packman_suse_10.3_.repo openSUSE-10.3-DVD 10.3.repo openSUSE-10.3-Updates.repo Thanks again, Joop ------------------------------------------------------------ Dit bericht is gescand op virussen en andere gevaarlijke inhoud door MailScanner en lijkt schoon te zijn. Mailscanner door http://www.prosolit.nl Professional Solutions fot IT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org ------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 no longer starts Date: Monday 21 April 2008 From: "Joop Beris" <j.beris@nederweert.nl> To: opensuse@opensuse.org Sorry for the "bump", but I would really like this solved. Does anyone have any ideas how to solve this? Regards, Joop On Wednesday 16 April 2008 14:51:54 Joop Beris wrote:

On Wednesday 16 April 2008 13:26:41 Will Stephenson wrote:

...

...

Troll Tech AS, Norway Distribution: KDE:Qt44 / openSUSE_10.3

----------------------

I assume that the Distribution above is correct?

That's what it should be.

Okay, then we have that ruled out.

...

Check every qt4 subpackage listed by rpm -qa | grep libqt4

Those are these packages: # rpm -qa | grep libqt4 libqt4-sql-4.3.95+20080413-6.1 libqt4-qt3support-4.3.95+20080413-6.1 libqt4-devel-4.3.95+20080413-6.1 libqt4-4.3.95+20080413-6.1 libqt4-x11-4.3.95+20080413-6.1

Yast2 tells me they are all from KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop repo (as listed on the Versions tab)

...

Which repos are you using (besides the KDE 4 ones you already listed)?

A lot. Listed in /etc/zypp/repos.d:

Beryl,_Compiz_and_XGL.repo Google_Linux_Repository.repo KDE3.repo KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop.repo KDE_4_Extra_Apps.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_Emulators:_Wine_openSUSE_10.3_.re po http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_KDE:_Backports_openSUSE_10.3_.rep o http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_KDE:_Community_openSUSE_10.3_.rep o http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_OpenOffice.org:_STABLE_openSUSE_1 0.3_.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_X11:_XGL_openSUSE_10.3_.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_drivers:_wlan_SUSE_Linux_Factory_ .repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_mozilla_openSUSE_10.3_.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_openSUSE:10.3_standard_.repo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_server:_database_openSUSE_10.3_.r epo http:__download.opensuse.org_repositories_server:_mail_openSUSE_10.3_.repo http:__download.videolan.org_pub_videolan_vlc_SuSE_10.3_.repo http:__ftp.skynet.be_pub_packman_suse_10.3_.repo openSUSE-10.3-DVD 10.3.repo openSUSE-10.3-Updates.repo

Thanks again,

Joop

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