[opensuse] Off Topic - remote back up site in UK
Hi Does anyone know where is could find a company/site that will allow me to store backups off site via rsync or sftp? I couldn't see anything on dropbox that would do me. Regards Ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/16/2016 09:39 AM, ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where is could find a company/site that will allow me to store backups off site via rsync or sftp? I couldn't see anything on dropbox that would do me.
Regards
Ian
Why do you care exactly what method is used for backups? How much do you need to be stored off-site? Personally, I use SpiderOak, who have clients for Windows and Linux and Mac. I thought I would need a boat load of storage, so I started with a 100 GiG subscription. I back up Two Linux machines and two Windows machines, selecting specific critical directories, (I don't back up the operating systems), but a users directories as well as financial data, software source code and build environments, etc. It turns out that these 4 machines account for just over 8 Gig. I use Spideraok in Backup mode, not data sync mode. Some might call this a contribution mode, where each changed file is backed up and can be rolled back incrementally, and user deleted files still remain in the backup. In spite of this redundancy, It still uses only 8Gig. I also use rsync (via Unison) to another machine across town in our other office. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:10 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/16/2016 09:39 AM, ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where is could find a company/site that will allow me to store backups off site via rsync or sftp? I couldn't see anything on dropbox that would do me.
Regards
Ian
Why do you care exactly what method is used for backups? How much do you need to be stored off-site?
Personally, I use SpiderOak, who have clients for Windows and Linux and Mac. I thought I would need a boat load of storage, so I started with a 100 GiG subscription. I back up Two Linux machines and two Windows machines, selecting specific critical directories, (I don't back up the operating systems), but a users directories as well as financial data, software source code and build environments, etc.
It turns out that these 4 machines account for just over 8 Gig.
I use Spideraok in Backup mode, not data sync mode. Some might call this a contribution mode, where each changed file is backed up and can be rolled back incrementally, and user deleted files still remain in the backup.
In spite of this redundancy, It still uses only 8Gig.
I also use rsync (via Unison) to another machine across town in our other office.
It's so small because SpiderOak dedups the data before calculating the size. It also may compress the data before it calculates the size. I have a lot more data than John, but I'm still below the 100GB point. They no longer have a 100GB price point: https://spideroak.com/about/price-list Instead: 30 GB - $7/month 1 TB - $12/month I've been a SpiderOak user for what seems like 10 years (and maybe really is). Early on it took forever to backup 10's of GBs (ie. a month for 100GB?). Now I can restore a 50GB share in less than 24 hours. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/16/2016 11:20 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:10 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/16/2016 09:39 AM, ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where is could find a company/site that will allow me to store backups off site via rsync or sftp? I couldn't see anything on dropbox that would do me.
Regards
Ian
Why do you care exactly what method is used for backups? How much do you need to be stored off-site?
Personally, I use SpiderOak, who have clients for Windows and Linux and Mac. I thought I would need a boat load of storage, so I started with a 100 GiG subscription. I back up Two Linux machines and two Windows machines, selecting specific critical directories, (I don't back up the operating systems), but a users directories as well as financial data, software source code and build environments, etc.
It turns out that these 4 machines account for just over 8 Gig.
I use Spideraok in Backup mode, not data sync mode. Some might call this a contribution mode, where each changed file is backed up and can be rolled back incrementally, and user deleted files still remain in the backup.
In spite of this redundancy, It still uses only 8Gig.
I also use rsync (via Unison) to another machine across town in our other office.
It's so small because SpiderOak dedups the data before calculating the size. It also may compress the data before it calculates the size.
I have a lot more data than John, but I'm still below the 100GB point.
They no longer have a 100GB price point:
https://spideroak.com/about/price-list
Instead:
30 GB - $7/month 1 TB - $12/month
I've been a SpiderOak user for what seems like 10 years (and maybe really is).
Early on it took forever to backup 10's of GBs (ie. a month for 100GB?).
Now I can restore a 50GB share in less than 24 hours.
Greg
Of course both of us have overlooked Ian's request for a UK source. We don't know for sure where SpiderOak is hosted, as (at last report) it was stored on Amazon AWS service which has many different data centers, including Ireland and Frankfort and a new one coming in the UK. https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/ It could be that SpiderOak already picks the closest data center, they don't mention this. The key reason I recommended Spideroak, is because the are a "zero knowledge" provider, they don't have the ability to decrypt your data or even provide the names of files. Not even with a warrant or at gun point. Encryption is done client-side, with a key known only to the user. They also have a canary. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 2:43 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
The key reason I recommended Spideroak, is because the are a "zero knowledge" provider, they don't have the ability to decrypt your data or even provide the names of files. Not even with a warrant or at gun point.
Encryption is done client-side, with a key known only to the user.
They also have a canary.
Canary? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/16/2016 12:11 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 2:43 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
The key reason I recommended Spideroak, is because the are a "zero knowledge" provider, they don't have the ability to decrypt your data or even provide the names of files. Not even with a warrant or at gun point.
Encryption is done client-side, with a key known only to the user.
They also have a canary.
Canary?
https://spideroak.com/articles/on-status-reports-transparency-and-overall-sa... -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 16/03/2016 20:25, John Andersen a écrit :
On 03/16/2016 12:11 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
Canary?
https://spideroak.com/articles/on-status-reports-transparency-and-overall-sa...
it's the bird miners use to know if there is some gaz in galleries jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 16/03/2016 19:43, John Andersen a écrit :
Of course both of us have overlooked Ian's request for a UK source.
yes, and I wonder why? one can have an ovh kimsufi for cheap. A backup server is nearly zero work (I use one) http://www.kimsufi.com/fr/serveurs.xml you have to be fast to have a cheap one, they are sold nearly every day, but out of stocks in minutes :-) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, 16 March 2016 20:17:30 GMT jdd wrote:
Le 16/03/2016 19:43, John Andersen a écrit :
Of course both of us have overlooked Ian's request for a UK source.
yes, and I wonder why?
one can have an ovh kimsufi for cheap. A backup server is nearly zero work (I use one)
http://www.kimsufi.com/fr/serveurs.xml
you have to be fast to have a cheap one, they are sold nearly every day, but out of stocks in minutes :-)
jdd Thanks, i'll have a look at that, do you know if they allow sftp or rsync access?
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Le 17/03/2016 00:15, ianseeks a écrit :
Thanks, i'll have a look at that, do you know if they allow sftp or rsync access?
they only loan the hardware, you are completely responsible of the software (mine runs 13.1) you have a 100Mb bandwith and ssh access and any access you want to implement there is also a rescue like console in case of failure and a 100% guaranty for the hardware (but not the content) - very good service for a ridiculous price. jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, 17 March 2016 08:02:32 GMT jdd wrote:
Le 17/03/2016 00:15, ianseeks a écrit :
Thanks, i'll have a look at that, do you know if they allow sftp or rsync access?
they only loan the hardware, you are completely responsible of the software (mine runs 13.1)
you have a 100Mb bandwith and ssh access and any access you want to implement
there is also a rescue like console in case of failure and a 100% guaranty for the hardware (but not the content) - very good service for a ridiculous price.
jdd Cheers. I'll give it a closer look.
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jdd wrote:
Le 16/03/2016 19:43, John Andersen a écrit :
Of course both of us have overlooked Ian's request for a UK source.
yes, and I wonder why?
No doubt Ian wants to make sure GCHQ have full and unencumbered access to his data :-)
one can have an ovh kimsufi for cheap. A backup server is nearly zero work (I use one) http://www.kimsufi.com/fr/serveurs.xml
OVH also exists as ovh.co.uk, they might even have centres in the UK too. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (1.1°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, 16 March 2016 11:43:19 GMT John Andersen wrote:
On 03/16/2016 11:20 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:10 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/16/2016 09:39 AM, ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where is could find a company/site that will allow me to store backups off site via rsync or sftp? I couldn't see anything on dropbox that would do me.
Regards
Ian
Why do you care exactly what method is used for backups? How much do you need to be stored off-site?
Personally, I use SpiderOak, who have clients for Windows and Linux and Mac. I thought I would need a boat load of storage, so I started with a 100 GiG subscription. I back up Two Linux machines and two Windows machines, selecting specific critical directories, (I don't back up the operating systems), but a users directories as well as financial data, software source code and build environments, etc.
It turns out that these 4 machines account for just over 8 Gig.
I use Spideraok in Backup mode, not data sync mode. Some might call this a contribution mode, where each changed file is backed up and can be rolled back incrementally, and user deleted files still remain in the backup.
In spite of this redundancy, It still uses only 8Gig.
I also use rsync (via Unison) to another machine across town in our other office.> It's so small because SpiderOak dedups the data before calculating the size. It also may compress the data before it calculates the size.
I have a lot more data than John, but I'm still below the 100GB point.
They no longer have a 100GB price point:
https://spideroak.com/about/price-list
Instead:
30 GB - $7/month 1 TB - $12/month
I've been a SpiderOak user for what seems like 10 years (and maybe really is).
Early on it took forever to backup 10's of GBs (ie. a month for 100GB?).
Now I can restore a 50GB share in less than 24 hours.
Greg
Of course both of us have overlooked Ian's request for a UK source.
We don't know for sure where SpiderOak is hosted, as (at last report) it was stored on Amazon AWS service which has many different data centers, including Ireland and Frankfort and a new one coming in the UK. https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/
It could be that SpiderOak already picks the closest data center, they don't mention this.
The key reason I recommended Spideroak, is because the are a "zero knowledge" provider, they don't have the ability to decrypt your data or even provide the names of files. Not even with a warrant or at gun point.
Encryption is done client-side, with a key known only to the user.
They also have a canary.
I won't use Amazon as I tend to avoid using any tax avoiders services. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, 16 March 2016 14:20:39 GMT Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:10 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/16/2016 09:39 AM, ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where is could find a company/site that will allow me to store backups off site via rsync or sftp? I couldn't see anything on dropbox that would do me.
Regards
Ian
Why do you care exactly what method is used for backups? How much do you need to be stored off-site?
Personally, I use SpiderOak, who have clients for Windows and Linux and Mac. I thought I would need a boat load of storage, so I started with a 100 GiG subscription. I back up Two Linux machines and two Windows machines, selecting specific critical directories, (I don't back up the operating systems), but a users directories as well as financial data, software source code and build environments, etc.
It turns out that these 4 machines account for just over 8 Gig.
I use Spideraok in Backup mode, not data sync mode. Some might call this a contribution mode, where each changed file is backed up and can be rolled back incrementally, and user deleted files still remain in the backup.
In spite of this redundancy, It still uses only 8Gig.
I also use rsync (via Unison) to another machine across town in our other office. It's so small because SpiderOak dedups the data before calculating the size. It also may compress the data before it calculates the size.
I have a lot more data than John, but I'm still below the 100GB point.
They no longer have a 100GB price point:
https://spideroak.com/about/price-list
Instead:
30 GB - $7/month 1 TB - $12/month
I've been a SpiderOak user for what seems like 10 years (and maybe really is).
Early on it took forever to backup 10's of GBs (ie. a month for 100GB?).
Now I can restore a 50GB share in less than 24 hours.
Greg Thanks, had a quick look at it but i can't see if its got a UK hosted service or sftp/rsync access.
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On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:18 PM, ianseeks <ianseeks@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On Wednesday, 16 March 2016 14:20:39 GMT Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:10 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/16/2016 09:39 AM, ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where is could find a company/site that will allow me to store backups off site via rsync or sftp? I couldn't see anything on dropbox that would do me.
Regards
Ian
Why do you care exactly what method is used for backups? How much do you need to be stored off-site?
Personally, I use SpiderOak, who have clients for Windows and Linux and Mac. I thought I would need a boat load of storage, so I started with a 100 GiG subscription. I back up Two Linux machines and two Windows machines, selecting specific critical directories, (I don't back up the operating systems), but a users directories as well as financial data, software source code and build environments, etc.
It turns out that these 4 machines account for just over 8 Gig.
I use Spideraok in Backup mode, not data sync mode. Some might call this a contribution mode, where each changed file is backed up and can be rolled back incrementally, and user deleted files still remain in the backup.
In spite of this redundancy, It still uses only 8Gig.
I also use rsync (via Unison) to another machine across town in our other office. It's so small because SpiderOak dedups the data before calculating the size. It also may compress the data before it calculates the size.
I have a lot more data than John, but I'm still below the 100GB point.
They no longer have a 100GB price point:
https://spideroak.com/about/price-list
Instead:
30 GB - $7/month 1 TB - $12/month
I've been a SpiderOak user for what seems like 10 years (and maybe really is).
Early on it took forever to backup 10's of GBs (ie. a month for 100GB?).
Now I can restore a 50GB share in less than 24 hours.
Greg Thanks, had a quick look at it but i can't see if its got a UK hosted service or sftp/rsync access.
No it doesn't offer either. SpiderOak is all inclusive backup service. You get their "Fedora" RPM and install it as I recall. It does fine with openSUSE. They also have a Mac and Windows client. It establishes a secure/encrypted connection back to their servers and does the backup similar to how rsync works. A 2GB account is free so you can test with it. I use the "sync" feature to keep 6 different folder trees in sync across about 15 machines. Most are powered on several times a week so they have time to get the updates. I have about 80GB in the cloud with them. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:18 PM, ianseeks <ianseeks@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On Wednesday, 16 March 2016 14:20:39 GMT Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:10 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/16/2016 09:39 AM, ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where is could find a company/site that will allow me to store backups off site via rsync or sftp? I couldn't see anything on dropbox that would do me.
Regards
Ian
Why do you care exactly what method is used for backups? How much do you need to be stored off-site?
Personally, I use SpiderOak, who have clients for Windows and Linux and Mac. I thought I would need a boat load of storage, so I started with a 100 GiG subscription. I back up Two Linux machines and two Windows machines, selecting specific critical directories, (I don't back up the operating systems), but a users directories as well as financial data, software source code and build environments, etc.
It turns out that these 4 machines account for just over 8 Gig.
I use Spideraok in Backup mode, not data sync mode. Some might call this a contribution mode, where each changed file is backed up and can be rolled back incrementally, and user deleted files still remain in the backup.
In spite of this redundancy, It still uses only 8Gig.
I also use rsync (via Unison) to another machine across town in our other office.
It's so small because SpiderOak dedups the data before calculating the size. It also may compress the data before it calculates the size.
I have a lot more data than John, but I'm still below the 100GB point.
They no longer have a 100GB price point:
https://spideroak.com/about/price-list
Instead:
30 GB - $7/month 1 TB - $12/month
I've been a SpiderOak user for what seems like 10 years (and maybe really is).
Early on it took forever to backup 10's of GBs (ie. a month for 100GB?).
Now I can restore a 50GB share in less than 24 hours.
Greg
Thanks, had a quick look at it but i can't see if its got a UK hosted service or sftp/rsync access.
No it doesn't offer either.
SpiderOak is all inclusive backup service. You get their "Fedora" RPM and install it as I recall.
It does fine with openSUSE. They also have a Mac and Windows client.
It establishes a secure/encrypted connection back to their servers and does the backup similar to how rsync works.
A 2GB account is free so you can test with it.
I use the "sync" feature to keep 6 different folder trees in sync across about 15 machines. Most are powered on several times a week so they have time to get the updates. I have about 80GB in the cloud with them.
Greg Thanks Greg. Is it only a GUI based solution or can it be activated on demand in a script without input or does it have its own "cron" type function? I'm
On Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:28:56 GMT Greg Freemyer wrote: trying to find a solution i can use without installing software from external sources but if that's not possible, i'll have to bite the bullet. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 3:50 AM, ianseeks <ianseeks@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:18 PM, ianseeks <ianseeks@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On Wednesday, 16 March 2016 14:20:39 GMT Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:10 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/16/2016 09:39 AM, ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where is could find a company/site that will allow me to store backups off site via rsync or sftp? I couldn't see anything on dropbox that would do me.
Regards
Ian
Why do you care exactly what method is used for backups? How much do you need to be stored off-site?
Personally, I use SpiderOak, who have clients for Windows and Linux and Mac. I thought I would need a boat load of storage, so I started with a 100 GiG subscription. I back up Two Linux machines and two Windows machines, selecting specific critical directories, (I don't back up the operating systems), but a users directories as well as financial data, software source code and build environments, etc.
It turns out that these 4 machines account for just over 8 Gig.
I use Spideraok in Backup mode, not data sync mode. Some might call this a contribution mode, where each changed file is backed up and can be rolled back incrementally, and user deleted files still remain in the backup.
In spite of this redundancy, It still uses only 8Gig.
I also use rsync (via Unison) to another machine across town in our other office.
It's so small because SpiderOak dedups the data before calculating the size. It also may compress the data before it calculates the size.
I have a lot more data than John, but I'm still below the 100GB point.
They no longer have a 100GB price point:
https://spideroak.com/about/price-list
Instead:
30 GB - $7/month 1 TB - $12/month
I've been a SpiderOak user for what seems like 10 years (and maybe really is).
Early on it took forever to backup 10's of GBs (ie. a month for 100GB?).
Now I can restore a 50GB share in less than 24 hours.
Greg
Thanks, had a quick look at it but i can't see if its got a UK hosted service or sftp/rsync access.
No it doesn't offer either.
SpiderOak is all inclusive backup service. You get their "Fedora" RPM and install it as I recall.
It does fine with openSUSE. They also have a Mac and Windows client.
It establishes a secure/encrypted connection back to their servers and does the backup similar to how rsync works.
A 2GB account is free so you can test with it.
I use the "sync" feature to keep 6 different folder trees in sync across about 15 machines. Most are powered on several times a week so they have time to get the updates. I have about 80GB in the cloud with them.
Greg Thanks Greg. Is it only a GUI based solution or can it be activated on demand in a script without input or does it have its own "cron" type function? I'm
On Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:28:56 GMT Greg Freemyer wrote: trying to find a solution i can use without installing software from external sources but if that's not possible, i'll have to bite the bullet.
There is a GUI, but also CLI commands. https://spideroak.com/faq/how-can-i-use-spideroak-from-the-command-line I've only ever done the setup and restores via the GUI, but CLI looks very functional. I've created a small cron script to start the backup. I think I used the --headless option to so it would just run in the background. The design is for it to run continuously in the background. It uses inotify (man inotify) to see what files are being changed and it immediately queues the changes up to send them to the cloud. If you change 100 MB of files, it might be 5 or 10 minutes before it gets them all updated in the cloud. I would not use it in that mode for a database file. Anyway, on a CIFS server in the past I've had SpiderOak launched at bootup via cron via the "@reboot" timestamp. Alternatively you could set it up as a systemd service. If you just have it running to backup a single account, you could put it in .profile (etc) and just have it run while the user is logged in. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, 17 March 2016 16:46:57 GMT Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 3:50 AM, ianseeks <ianseeks@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:28:56 GMT Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:18 PM, ianseeks <ianseeks@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On Wednesday, 16 March 2016 14:20:39 GMT Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:10 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/16/2016 09:39 AM, ianseeks wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone know where is could find a company/site that will allow > me > to > store backups off site via rsync or sftp? I couldn't see anything > on > dropbox that would do me. > > Regards > > Ian
Why do you care exactly what method is used for backups? How much do you need to be stored off-site?
Personally, I use SpiderOak, who have clients for Windows and Linux and Mac. I thought I would need a boat load of storage, so I started with a 100 GiG subscription. I back up Two Linux machines and two Windows machines, selecting specific critical directories, (I don't back up the operating systems), but a users directories as well as financial data, software source code and build environments, etc.
It turns out that these 4 machines account for just over 8 Gig.
I use Spideraok in Backup mode, not data sync mode. Some might call this a contribution mode, where each changed file is backed up and can be rolled back incrementally, and user deleted files still remain in the backup.
In spite of this redundancy, It still uses only 8Gig.
I also use rsync (via Unison) to another machine across town in our other office.
It's so small because SpiderOak dedups the data before calculating the size. It also may compress the data before it calculates the size.
I have a lot more data than John, but I'm still below the 100GB point.
They no longer have a 100GB price point:
https://spideroak.com/about/price-list
Instead:
30 GB - $7/month 1 TB - $12/month
I've been a SpiderOak user for what seems like 10 years (and maybe really is).
Early on it took forever to backup 10's of GBs (ie. a month for 100GB?).
Now I can restore a 50GB share in less than 24 hours.
Greg
Thanks, had a quick look at it but i can't see if its got a UK hosted service or sftp/rsync access.
No it doesn't offer either.
SpiderOak is all inclusive backup service. You get their "Fedora" RPM and install it as I recall.
It does fine with openSUSE. They also have a Mac and Windows client.
It establishes a secure/encrypted connection back to their servers and does the backup similar to how rsync works.
A 2GB account is free so you can test with it.
I use the "sync" feature to keep 6 different folder trees in sync across about 15 machines. Most are powered on several times a week so they have time to get the updates. I have about 80GB in the cloud with them.
Greg
Thanks Greg. Is it only a GUI based solution or can it be activated on demand in a script without input or does it have its own "cron" type function? I'm trying to find a solution i can use without installing software from external sources but if that's not possible, i'll have to bite the bullet.
There is a GUI, but also CLI commands.
https://spideroak.com/faq/how-can-i-use-spideroak-from-the-command-line
I've only ever done the setup and restores via the GUI, but CLI looks very functional.
I've created a small cron script to start the backup. I think I used the --headless option to so it would just run in the background.
The design is for it to run continuously in the background. It uses inotify (man inotify) to see what files are being changed and it immediately queues the changes up to send them to the cloud. If you change 100 MB of files, it might be 5 or 10 minutes before it gets them all updated in the cloud. I would not use it in that mode for a database file.
Anyway, on a CIFS server in the past I've had SpiderOak launched at bootup via cron via the "@reboot" timestamp.
Alternatively you could set it up as a systemd service.
If you just have it running to backup a single account, you could put it in .profile (etc) and just have it run while the user is logged in.
Greg Thanks Greg, sounds like a possible solution for me.
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On 03/16/2016 09:39 AM, ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where is could find a company/site that will allow me to store backups off site via rsync or sftp? I couldn't see anything on dropbox that would do me.
Regards
Ian
Why do you care exactly what method is used for backups? How much do you need to be stored off-site?
Personally, I use SpiderOak, who have clients for Windows and Linux and Mac. I thought I would need a boat load of storage, so I started with a 100 GiG subscription. I back up Two Linux machines and two Windows machines, selecting specific critical directories, (I don't back up the operating systems), but a users directories as well as financial data, software source code and build environments, etc.
It turns out that these 4 machines account for just over 8 Gig.
I use Spideraok in Backup mode, not data sync mode. Some might call this a contribution mode, where each changed file is backed up and can be rolled back incrementally, and user deleted files still remain in the backup.
In spite of this redundancy, It still uses only 8Gig.
I also use rsync (via Unison) to another machine across town in our other office. It not a lot of data but i'm currently backing up locally as i logout and i'd
On Wednesday, 16 March 2016 10:10:41 GMT John Andersen wrote: like to have an offsite location for extra peace of mind. I do it as i logout because i can't forget to do it. I've tried calling my ISP to get access to the storage i have as part of my deal but talking to the first line support is a waste of time, they have no idea what i mean when i ask if they have ftp access. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/16/2016 12:39 PM, ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where is could find a company/site that will allow me to store backups off site via rsync or sftp? I couldn't see anything on dropbox that would do me.
Regards
Ian
In the past I ran owncloud on my own remote server and found it useful, have you looked into setting something like that up? The catch of course is that you need a remote server to run it on... -- Regards, Uzair Shamim
Uzair Shamim wrote:
On 03/16/2016 12:39 PM, ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where is could find a company/site that will allow me to store backups off site via rsync or sftp? I couldn't see anything on dropbox that would do me.
Regards
Ian
In the past I ran owncloud on my own remote server and found it useful, have you looked into setting something like that up? The catch of course is that you need a remote server to run it on...
Yes, if Ian wants to do the admin himself, there are many possibilities out there. 1&1, OVH, Hetzner, Hostsuisse, Hosteurope, Rackspace et al. If all he wants is 50Gb of disk space with sftp and rsync access, I'm not so sure. There's Backblaze, but I don't think they're in the UK. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (1.2°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Greg Freemyer
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John Andersen
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Per Jessen
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Uzair Shamim