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On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Fred A. Miller wrote:
http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2700374,00.html
Fred: How does this mesh with the announcements from places like the German government agencies that have "kicked" the MS habit? The rumblings from our own government agencies that are interested in "secure" linux? I even recall something about AOL having big problems trying to worm their way into Europe? Sure doesn't seem like the world community will "buy" into this .NET stuff, does it? Just a thought, tom
tompoe wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Fred A. Miller wrote:
http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2700374,00.html
Fred: How does this mesh with the announcements from places like the German government agencies that have "kicked" the MS habit? The rumblings from our own government agencies that are interested in "secure" linux? I even recall something about AOL having big problems trying to worm their way into Europe? Sure doesn't seem like the world community will "buy" into this .NET stuff, does it? Just a thought, tom
Well, government agencies... There used to be a "standard" in one of our german federal states for word processing: Word Perfect (I guess). Since I say "I guess", you can guess what the de facto standard was. ;-( Last year, as I've been told, there was sort of assessment, to set the new standard. Alternetives were said to be taken in account. Guess what came out of that. The new standard is Office 2000. Not nessesarrily on Win 2K, but... The problem is not M$ as such, it is properitary formats for full functionality of products. With all that M$ properitary formats about, it is probably cheaper [with the next update in view] to keep that crap. This is called progress. I call it short sightness. I better stop now, anger starts boiling. Juergen -- =========================================== __ _ Juergen Braukmann juergen.braukmann@gmx.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb@db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ===========================================_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
What I would really like is a modern version of Word Perfect 5.1 It was far superior to the subsequent versions. How about a Linux version someone ?
Well, government agencies... There used to be a "standard" in one of our german federal states for word processing: Word Perfect (I guess). Since I say "I guess", you can guess what the de facto standard was. ;-(
Last year, as I've been told, there was sort of assessment, to set the new standard. Alternatives were said to be taken in account. Guess what came out of that.
Juergen
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Best regards. -- Geoff Bagley G3FHL. (SuSE 7.1 prof).
At 10:40 PM 03/28/2001 +0100, you wrote:
What I would really like is a modern version of Word Perfect 5.1
It was far superior to the subsequent versions.
How about a Linux version someone ? /snip/
Boy, do I ever second that. If WP 5.1 could read modern MS and WP files, I would be using it now! It came with a real manual, you could set it to fully justify your text ONCE, and it would stay like that forever, it was faster, etc. etc. etc.
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Juergen Braukmann wrote:
The new standard is Office 2000. This is called progress. I call it short sightness. I better stop now, anger starts boiling.
Juergen
Hi, Juergen: I should have guessed. Thanks for the correct take on this topic. Fred pointed out in so many words, "Money Talks!". And, from what you say, looks like it's gonna be the bottom line for a long time to come. I do know that last year [if not the year before], the U.S. FDA announced Windows as the format for "official" communications, i.e., .docs. Ugly, inefficient, and costly to taxpayors around the world. Tom
Somebody can explain step by step how to upgrade to the last suse kernel (not last linux kernel): 1.-Where download last kernel 2.-How to compile (make, make install, etc etc) 3.-Other suggestions I make this question because I understand that suse kernel is not the same linux kernel. Best regards from Spain Luis PS:I'm making a new spanish suse list...... please contact if you speak spanish.
* Luis (luis@twips.com) [010329 23:28]: =>Somebody can explain step by step how to upgrade to the last suse kernel =>(not last linux kernel): => =>1.-Where download last kernel =>2.-How to compile (make, make install, etc etc) =>3.-Other suggestions => =>I make this question because I understand that suse kernel is not the same =>linux kernel. => =>Best regards from Spain => Luis, I would go to the ftp site under the updates..in the kernel directory and get the RPM's for the 2.4.2 kernel and the new modutils..it's pretty easy to install..it's a good way until you get familiar with compiling your own. Regards, -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ----- If two men agree on everything, you can be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking.
Luis,
I would go to the ftp site under the updates..in the kernel directory and get the RPM's for the 2.4.2 kernel and the new modutils..it's pretty easy to install..it's a good way until you get familiar with compiling your own.
welll, and the steps???????? hehehe suse kernel is it the same than linux kernel (www.kernel.org)????
Luis wrote:
I would go to the ftp site under the updates..in the kernel directory and get the RPM's for the 2.4.2 kernel and the new modutils..it's pretty easy to install..it's a good way until you get familiar with compiling your own.
welll, and the steps???????? hehehe suse kernel is it the same than linux kernel (www.kernel.org)????
Go to: ftp://ftp2.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/7.1/kernel/ and download whichever kernel is best for you (for example, the SMP kernel is for multiprocessor machines, i386 is backwards compatible, etc.). If you don't have the latest modutils, then you'll need to download that as well, etc. Then you needs to install the RPMs. You can either do this using a program such as kpackage, or you can use the 'rpm' program on the command line. You'll need to put a new entry in /etc/lilo.conf to point to the new kernel (see 'man lilo.conf' and the already existing entries for more details), not forgetting to run the '/sbin/lilo' command. That's all there is to it - you don't need to compile the kernel yourself. As to your question about the similarity between the SuSE kernel and the kernel.org kernel - yes, the SuSE kernel is different. The SuSE kernel usually has a lot of the latest patches and some enhancements with respect to the 'official' kernel. You don't loose a huge amount by going with the 'official' kernel though. Hope that gives you enough to get started, Chris -- __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
Chris Reeves wrote:
Luis wrote:
I would go to the ftp site under the updates..in the kernel directory and get the RPM's for the 2.4.2 kernel and the new modutils..it's pretty easy to install..it's a good way until you get familiar with compiling your own.
welll, and the steps???????? hehehe suse kernel is it the same than linux kernel (www.kernel.org)????
Go to: ftp://ftp2.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/7.1/kernel/ and download whichever kernel is best for you (for example, the SMP kernel is for multiprocessor machines, i386 is backwards compatible, etc.). If you don't have the latest modutils, then you'll need to download that as well, etc.
Then you needs to install the RPMs. You can either do this using a program such as kpackage, or you can use the 'rpm' program on the command line.
You'll need to put a new entry in /etc/lilo.conf to point to the new kernel (see 'man lilo.conf' and the already existing entries for more details), not forgetting to run the '/sbin/lilo' command.
That's all there is to it - you don't need to compile the kernel yourself.
As to your question about the similarity between the SuSE kernel and the kernel.org kernel - yes, the SuSE kernel is different. The SuSE kernel usually has a lot of the latest patches and some enhancements with respect to the 'official' kernel. You don't loose a huge amount by going with the 'official' kernel though.
Hope that gives you enough to get started, Chris -- __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
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Chris, what's the difference between the deflt kernel, and the i386 kernel?
Go to: ftp://ftp2.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/7.1/kernel/ and download whichever kernel is best for you (for example, the SMP kernel is for multiprocessor machines, i386 is backwards compatible, etc.). If you don't have the latest modutils, then you'll need to download that as well, etc.
Then you needs to install the RPMs. You can either do this using a program such as kpackage, or you can use the 'rpm' program on the command line.
Where saves the new kernel?? I have runned the kpackage and I was upgraded to last kernel....... then I rebooted........ iis it correct??? I try to download the latest KDE rpm from KDE and SUSE but is missing in the web.... Do you know something about it???? Best regards Luis from Spain
Luis Villaverde wrote:
Go to: ftp://ftp2.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/7.1/kernel/ and download whichever kernel is best for you (for example, the SMP kernel is for multiprocessor machines, i386 is backwards compatible, etc.). If you don't have the latest modutils, then you'll need to download that as well, etc.
Then you needs to install the RPMs. You can either do this using a program such as kpackage, or you can use the 'rpm' program on the command line.
Where saves the new kernel?? I have runned the kpackage and I was upgraded to last kernel....... then I rebooted........ iis it correct???
You'll need to edit /etc/lilo.conf to add an entry for the new kernel. The new entry should look quite similar to the entries already there (you can do 'man lilo.conf' for more information). Once you have done this, you will need to execute the command '/sbin/lilo' in order to write the new configuration to the drive. I'm not sure exactly what the details are of the RPM install, so I can't give you any more specifics, sorry. Bye, Chris -- __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
You'll need to edit /etc/lilo.conf to add an entry for the new kernel. The new entry should look quite similar to the entries already there (you can do 'man lilo.conf' for more information). Once you have done
I did it ------ OK
this, you will need to execute the command '/sbin/lilo' in order to write the new configuration to the drive. I'm not sure exactly what the
I do it if I change lilo.conf ;-)))
details are of the RPM install, so I can't give you any more specifics, sorry.
but now I reboot and select new kernel..............after a seconds...... we see............ Setting up /lib/mdoules/libs/2.4.2 hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... hda: status error: status=0x50 hda: driver not ready for command hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... hda: los interrupt....... Anybody know the solution?????????
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